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Amazon: Chevron 65740-CASE Techron Concentrate Plus Fuel System Cleaner - 20 oz., (Pack of 6): $55.03

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Chevron 65740-CASE Techron Concentrate Plus Fuel System Cleaner [amazon.com] - 20 oz

I prefer to buy 20 oz instead of 12 oz bottles since I can fill the tank instead of a partial fill up.

Techron Concentrate Plus Fuel System Cleaner
12 oz. (treats up to 12 gal. of fuel)
20 oz. (treats up to 20 gal. of fuel)


Techron Concentrate Plus Fuel System Cleaner
For best performance, follow the manufacturer's recommendations in your vehicle owner's manual
Cleans, restores, protects the entire fuel system (fuel injectors, carburetors, intake valves and combustion chambers)
Restores: lost power, acceleration, lost fuel economy, and operation of the fuel gauge sensor
Reduces: rough idle, engine surge, hesitation, and spark plus fouling
Improves: cold start performance, and fuel stability for up to one year
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04-21-2024 at 08:31 PM.
04-21-2024 at 08:31 PM.
Even though I buy premium top-tier fuel, I still got to use this s*** in my Corvette every so often, otherwise my gas gauge messes up
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04-22-2024 at 02:37 PM.
04-22-2024 at 02:37 PM.
Quote from goodgator2000 :
Those are the 12 oz bottles. OP is referencing a 6 pack of the 20 oz. This is a slightly better deal than the AutoZone BOGO or the current NAPA $5.49 for 12 oz

You are incorrect. The 20oz go on sale for 2/$13.99
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604badder
04-22-2024 at 08:52 PM.
04-22-2024 at 08:52 PM.
Quote from Iexpedite :
If you have a direct injection engine, a product like Techron can help prevent build-up on the valves.

Chevron, Texaco, and Caltex are the companies that use Techron. If you fuel up at those places you are good to go. The fuel I buy doesn't have any additive package. I add Techron every few tanks.
If you have a direct injection engine then this would do nothing for your valves. The fuel as in it's name, goes directly into the combustion chamber and cannot wash the back of of the valves. Carbon build up on the valves of a direct injection engine comes from oil that makes it's easy back to the intake via the EGR valve. Fuel additives can't combat that.
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04-23-2024 at 09:14 AM.
04-23-2024 at 09:14 AM.
Quote from WalterH2943 :
Do I really need this if I buy a Top Tier™ performance standard gas?

If you have been using top tier fuel since the birth of your car then you are good. If it's a used car then you don't know the condition of the tank and the FI's. You could also just do a simple experiment to see if your car needs this. Fill up your tank and calculate the number of miles driven to get an accurate mpg. Add the fuel concentrate on the next two fill ups and calculate the miles driven and mpg on each tank of gas accounting for the vol of fuel additive. Drive on two more full tanks of gas and calculate the mpg. Any improvement you use must be significant and last even after you stop using the fuel additive.
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04-23-2024 at 01:00 PM.
04-23-2024 at 01:00 PM.
Quote from spiffytexan :
Unfortunately this won't clean the valves of DI engines. You need walnut valve blasting which involves taking out the valves.

The valve chemical soaks offered by some shops don't do much of anything.
You don't take the valves out to walnut blast.
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04-23-2024 at 01:25 PM.
04-23-2024 at 01:25 PM.
Quote from 604badder :
If you have a direct injection engine then this would do nothing for your valves. The fuel as in it's name, goes directly into the combustion chamber and cannot wash the back of of the valves. Carbon build up on the valves of a direct injection engine comes from oil that makes it's easy back to the intake via the EGR valve. Fuel additives can't combat that.
Gasoline is an excellent detergent. A well designed engine with port fuel injection should remain clean with the use of fresh gas and occasional highway driving. Top tier gas is a marketing scam. Has anyone published the additive(s) and concentration of top tier fuel? We use Sam's gas. Intake valves and cylinder head area are in great condition, including old school 2 valve/cylinder motor (22RE) with +370K miles.

Also note that top tier gas will not prevent the formation of deposit around the throttle body area. You need to manually clean with carb cleaner every 20K miles to optimize fuel trim at idle.

Toyota uses a combination of direct and port injections to keep the intake valves clean.
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04-23-2024 at 01:34 PM.
04-23-2024 at 01:34 PM.
Quote from ilovegreatdeals :
Even though I buy premium top-tier fuel, I still got to use this s*** in my Corvette every so often, otherwise my gas gauge messes up
Gas gauge uses a float and variable resistor positioned in the gas tank. Old contaminate fuel can cause the float to stick. Modern gas has about 10% alcohol, which will absorb water over time.

Try a different gas station and keep the tank 1/2 full if you don't fill up once a week.
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04-23-2024 at 02:00 PM.
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Quote from sweetdeal1029 :
If you have been using top tier fuel since the birth of your car then you are good. If it's a used car then you don't know the condition of the tank and the FI's. You could also just do a simple experiment to see if your car needs this. Fill up your tank and calculate the number of miles driven to get an accurate mpg. Add the fuel concentrate on the next two fill ups and calculate the miles driven and mpg on each tank of gas accounting for the vol of fuel additive. Drive on two more full tanks of gas and calculate the mpg. Any improvement you use must be significant and last even after you stop using the fuel additive.
A cheap OBD II scanner will report short term and long term fuel trims. If the injectors, mass air flow sensor, valves, and piston rings are in good order, then fuel trim should be less than 2%.

Top tier gas and many fuel additives don't have sufficient strength to adequately remove deposits. I see moderate success with the ATS chemical.

If the injectors are partially clogged, the best option is to remove all the injectors and have them professionally cleaned. It could take several hours to clean one injector immersed in an ultrasonic cleaning solution. Success rate is better than 90% if the injector is not damaged. The shop will be able to run flow test and spray pattern to make sure all injectors are within specs. Upon successful cleaning, the shop will replace the injector's fuel filter and Viton seals.

I've spent hours at RC Injection and I can vouch for their workmanship.

https://www.atschemicals.com/505-pour-ins/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mjFEK7MZt8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LK6bx3hUTE

https://www.rcfuelinjection.com/
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04-23-2024 at 04:49 PM.
04-23-2024 at 04:49 PM.
Quote from E4300 :
A cheap OBD II scanner will report short term and long term fuel trims. If the injectors, mass air flow sensor, valves, and piston rings are in good order, then fuel trim should be less than 2%.

Top tier gas and many fuel additives don't have sufficient strength to adequately remove deposits. I see moderate success with the ATS chemical.

If the injectors are partially clogged, the best option is to remove all the injectors and have them professionally cleaned. It could take several hours to clean one injector immersed in an ultrasonic cleaning solution. Success rate is better than 90% if the injector is not damaged. The shop will be able to run flow test and spray pattern to make sure all injectors are within specs. Upon successful cleaning, the shop will replace the injector's fuel filter and Viton seals.

I've spent hours at RC Injection and I can vouch for their workmanship.

https://www.atschemicals.com/505-pour-ins/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mjFEK7MZt8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LK6bx3hUTE

https://www.rcfuelinjection.com/

Yep, pretty much snake oil, might help gummy fuel injectors, but it's not going to perform miracles on engine carbon buildup. You are better off just doing an Italian tuneup every once in a while. Cars want to rev.
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04-23-2024 at 08:08 PM.
04-23-2024 at 08:08 PM.
Quote from Arok79 :
You are incorrect. The 20oz go on sale for 2/$13.99
Super. This post referenced a BOGO deal and the current one is for 12oz bottles: Techron Fuel System Cleaner 12oz (autozone.com) [autozone.com]. Deals going as far back as 2016 can be found online for the 12 oz bottles. I know because I've bought this one myself many times. Maybe you have found something better. Great, but that doesn't make me "incorrect". Instead, it would be more helpful if you cited your source so others can save too. Cheers!
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04-24-2024 at 04:25 AM.
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Quote from WalterH2943 :
Do I really need this if I buy a Top Tier™ performance standard gas?
Yes. Top tier gasoline is a myth. I mean it's not a myth that certain companies are top tier, but the fact that somehow gasoline is different is fake. Besides, almost every gasoline company is on the list anyways.
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04-24-2024 at 05:58 AM.
04-24-2024 at 05:58 AM.
Quote from Iexpedite :
If you have a direct injection engine, a product like Techron can help prevent build-up on the valves.

Chevron, Texaco, and Caltex are the companies that use Techron. If you fuel up at those places you are good to go. The fuel I buy doesn't have any additive package. I add Techron every few tanks.

If you're buying fuel in the US, it has a detergent additive by law. The quality of that detergent could be questionable which is why the auto makers defined Top Tier to be better than government minimums.
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04-24-2024 at 08:00 AM.
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Quote from charredangel :
If you're buying fuel in the US, it has a detergent additive by law. The quality of that detergent could be questionable which is why the auto makers defined Top Tier to be better than government minimums.
So what kind and how much of this "quality detergent" is added to Top Tier fuel? No one knows because they don't want to start a war about my top tier gas is better than your top tier gas.

Basic gasoline is already a superb solvent. Use fresh clean gas that's less than 2 weeks old and run the engine ~2500 rpm for 30 min each month to control deposit buildup in the engine. Manually shift to a lower gear if necessary to achieve higher engine rpm.
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04-24-2024 at 08:12 AM.
04-24-2024 at 08:12 AM.
Quote from E4300 :
So what kind and how much of this "quality detergent" is added to Top Tier fuel? No one knows because they don't want to start a war about my top tier gas is better than your top tier gas.

Basic gasoline is already a superb solvent. Use fresh clean gas that's less than 2 weeks old and run the engine ~2500 rpm for 30 min each month to control deposit buildup in the engine. Manually shift to a lower gear if necessary to achieve higher engine rpm.

There are engines running tests on what qualifies and what doesn't. I know because I have seen some of them. Not all detergents are equal. Some good ones perform better in some tests than others.

Basic gasoline is a solvent for nonpolar compounds. Water is a solvent for polar compounds but that doesn't mean you don't need a soap or detergent to wash your hands. The "with and without" tests for gasoline additives are very, very well documented. There is no gas clean enough to prevent deposits.
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04-24-2024 at 09:27 AM.
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Quote from charredangel :
There are engines running tests on what qualifies and what doesn't. I know because I have seen some of them. Not all detergents are equal. Some good ones perform better in some tests than others.

Basic gasoline is a solvent for nonpolar compounds. Water is a solvent for polar compounds but that doesn't mean you don't need a soap or detergent to wash your hands. The "with and without" tests for gasoline additives are very, very well documented. There is no gas clean enough to prevent deposits.
Real world is different than accelerated lab test. If there is real world benefit, then the spec must define what type and what concentration. A car running in city traffic and "top tier" fuel will always have more engine deposit than one cruising at +2000 rpm on the highway.

The best detergent gas is worthless if it does not hit the intake valves (direct injection). Have you removed deposit from a cylinder head? Pull the head and dip it in a gasoline bath overnight. Use a toothbrush to remove ALL the deposit. Gasoline will remove almost anything from your hands...grease, dirt, oil, paint, etc....

Fresh clean fuel and 5K oil change interval will do more to keep the engine clean than top tier gas, assuming the engine is properly designed. +220K mile vehicles with steady diet of Sam's gas and 5000-6000 oil change interval...<2% short term and long term fuel trims. That's a hallmark of a clean engine. Sam's doesn't use top tier gas,
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