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Women's & Men's Saucony Endorphin Pro 3 (Pink) $130 + Free Shipping
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Reminder: Last time around Saucony discounted the the EP2 down to $80 for lengthy period and even dropped the price down to $40 for a brief period.
Reminder 2: Nike and Adidas outlet stores have discounted their respective brands top running models such as Alphafly and Prime X Strungs by over 60%.
Reminder: Last time around Saucony discounted the the EP2 down to $80 for lengthy period and even dropped the price down to $40 for a brief period.
Reminder 2: Nike and Adidas outlet stores have discounted their respective brands top running models such as Alphafly and Prime X Strungs by over 60%.
You really trying to compare a 40 billion plus dollar company to a division of a bigger company that only did 585 million?
If you like the shoe, buy it. I buy a lot of Nike at retail even though I love my mark downs, but not everyone can be them. Imagine doing 39 billion in sales and it's considered a decline.
If you like the shoe, buy it. I buy a lot of Nike at retail even though I love my mark downs, but not everyone can be them. Imagine doing 39 billion in sales and it's considered a decline.
I don't see the relevancy to your question. Landed cost is landed cost. Gross margins are gross margins. Saucony has a reputation of being a serial discounter. They have no pricing power. All of their shoe models, year after year, end up getting marked down by 50-, 60-, 70%. This year and next year will be no different.
Reminder: Last time around Saucony discounted the the EP2 down to $80 for lengthy period and even dropped the price down to $40 for a brief period.
Reminder 2: Nike and Adidas outlet stores have discounted their respective brands top running models such as Alphafly and Prime X Strungs by over 60%.
Was about to reply as well. Haven't seen much selection of wide size and price on triumph like that period
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I have two pairs of ES3 in my rotation along with some ES2. Nether model can handle my 12+ mile routes. The midsole is not thick enough. The geometry is not rockered enough. The plates are not rigid enough. Saucony needs to up their game. Their shoes have become substandard.
For long runs I have a quartet of SC Trainer V1 with carbon plates and a 47mm stack. It's like the poor man's Prime X.
This is nothing to worry about. The discounts are going to come.
I don't believe the there was a manufacturing defect with the AP3 Prospect Quartz colorway.
My hunch is that Saucony intentionally executed a major order for this particular colorway in order to offer an option for price sensitive shoppers and to perform a market test for customer demand at lower price points compared to the AP3's MSRP.
Under this scenario the so-called "dye bleed" defect was simply subterfuge to allow Saucony to practice market segmentation for the the AP3 without jeopardizing pricing power for this product or interfering with any MAP restrictions they may have imposed on other retailers.
This is a clever approach...if my theory is correct.
The day news of the AP3 deal broke on Reddit I performed an inventory check of all the Endorphin Pro units, both versions 3 and 4, all color ways, available for shipment from the Saucony.com website. What I discovered surprised me. There were more units of the ES3 Prospect Quartz than all of the other Endorphin Speed SKUs combined and by a wide margin! In fact, there more units of this SKU than I had ever before seen for any ES3 SKU at any point since it's release two years ago.
And btw, it makes zero sense for any shoe brand to accept and sell a shipment of thousands of defective units of product. That cannot be how the industry works. Shoe brands *order* shoes from third party contract manufacturers, usually based in Vietnam. They're very disciplined over there. It's very unlikely that visible defect such as dye transfer from an upper to the midsole affecting hundreds or thousands of units would just fly under the radar and get past QA. Even if this were to occur the shoe brand, Saucony in this case, would have the right to either return the shipment or demand a new order run be executed and delivered at no additional charge. At least that's my understanding of how this business works.
In light of this, I'm holding firm on my disciplined 50% Off MSRP determinate for shoe purchases. Good things come to those who wait. At least with running shoes.
I just want to add that the reason that Endorphin Gen 2 deal was nearly two years ago is because Saucony decided to move the Endorphin series models to an every-other-year refresh cycle. Their a profit seeking company so I would expect them to try to hold the line on pricing as long as possible. But I would be surprised NOT to see better deals emerge this summer and into the holiday shopping season.
I don't believe the there was a manufacturing defect with the AP3 Prospect Quartz colorway.
My hunch is that Saucony intentionally executed a major order for this particular colorway in order to offer an option for price sensitive shoppers and to perform a market test for customer demand at lower price points compared to the AP3's MSRP.
Under this scenario the so-called "dye bleed" defect was simply subterfuge to allow Saucony to practice market segmentation for the the AP3 without jeopardizing pricing power for this product or interfering with any MAP restrictions they may have imposed on other retailers.
This is a clever approach...if my theory is correct.
The day news of the AP3 deal broke on Reddit I performed an inventory check of all the Endorphin Pro units, both versions 3 and 4, all color ways, available for shipment from the Saucony.com website. What I discovered surprised me. There were more units of the ES3 Prospect Quartz than all of the other Endorphin Speed SKUs combined and by a wide margin! In fact, there more units of this SKU than I had ever before seen for any ES3 SKU at any point since it's release two years ago.
And btw, it makes zero sense for any shoe brand to accept and sell a shipment of thousands of defective units of product. That cannot be how the industry works. Shoe brands *order* shoes from third party contract manufacturers, usually based in Vietnam. They're very disciplined over there. It's very unlikely that visible defect such as dye transfer from an upper to the midsole affecting hundreds or thousands of units would just fly under the radar and get past QA. Even if this were to occur the shoe brand, Saucony in this case, would have the right to either return the shipment or demand a new order run be executed and delivered at no additional charge. At least that's my understanding of how this business works.
In light of this, I'm holding firm on my disciplined 50% Off MSRP determinate for shoe purchases. Good things come to those who wait. At least with running shoes.
I just want to add that the reason that Endorphin Gen 2 deal was nearly two years ago is because Saucony decided to move the Endorphin series models to an every-other-year refresh cycle. Their a profit seeking company so I would expect them to try to hold the line on pricing as long as possible. But I would be surprised NOT to see better deals emerge this summer and into the holiday shopping season.
Why wait? These match great with a pink thong.
The historical pattern with Saucony is that they pyramid their sales for discontinued shoes. The first sale is the least attractive to the customer and most protective of margins for the company. Saucony presumably gauges the rate of sales to estimate how long current inventory, both visible and hidden, will last. If inventory is not moving fast enough they lower the price and reassess.
For the previous generation of Endorphins, ES2 and ES2, the discounting began at similar levels to what we've seen with ES3 and EP3. Then they kept dropping, eventually below $100. Then to $80, $70, $40, and at the very end, according to a SD post, the price for the EP2 and ES2 fell to $31.20. That was back in late 2022 and early 2023. The economy was weaker and footwear industry was dealing with a large excess inventory overhang. It's doubtful prices for the EP3 ever see $40 or $60. But I would not be surprised to see it fall to $80-90 in the dog days of summer or during Black Friday.
One has to keep in mind that Saucony has moved the Endorphin series, the Speed and the Pro, to a once every other year refresh cycle. That was confirmed from brand representatives. This change is going to impact how the brand manages production and inventory to meet holiday sale goals.
At the same time Saucony is making an effort to avoid devaluing their brand. Discounts on current year models erodes pricing power through undesirable consumer conditioning. That's why brands reserve their most appealing holiday season discounts for discontinued shoes. Saucony will have to maintain or even build up inventory in the EP3 and ES3 to use as sales fodder for Black Friday and Cyber Monday. With this in mind the best deals on the EP3 could be another 7 months away.