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Epson EpiqVision Mini EF12 3LCD Portable Projector (Refurbished)

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Walmart has Epson EpiqVision Mini EF12 3LCD Portable Projector (Refurbished) on clearance for $248.76. Shipping is free.

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Condition Notes (per the product page):
  • This product may not have been manufacturer certified but has been professionally inspected, tested and cleaned by Walmart Restored Program Sellers and Suppliers
  • Fully functional product in Like New Condition. Item may have very light micro-scratches, invisible at a distance of 8-12 inches (arm's length).
  • This product may include accessories which might not be original but will be compatible and fully functional.
  • This product may be returned within 90 days for free return or replacement if you are not satisfied.
  • Battery capacity exceeds 80% capacity relative to its new equivalent
Features:
  • Stunning picture quality up to 150 inches: Delivers an immersive viewing experience for TV shows, sporting events, gaming, and movies by accepting content up to 4K for an amazing Full-HD HDR picture.
  • Advanced scene adaptive color correction: Automatic scene-based color correction produces a clear and natural picture – regardless of the content being played.
  • True 3-chip projector design: Advanced 3LCD technology displays 100% of the RGB color signal for every frame. This allows for outstanding color accuracy while maintaining excellent color brightness, without any distracting "rainbowing" or "color brightness" issues seen with other projection technologies.
  • Auto picture skew and focus correction: Depending upon how you orient the projector to the wall, the projector will analyze the projected image and correct the geometry, while automatically focusing the picture for a beautiful viewing experience.
  • Chromecast™ built-in: Wirelessly cast your favorite content directly from your smartphone, tablet, or computer – including from popular Android™ and Apple devices (3).
  • Sound by Yamaha: Custom-designed audiophile speaker system offers a powerful and emotional performance that rivals soundbars; connect via Bluetooth to use as a standalone speaker.
  • Built-in Android TV (1): Latest Android TV interface with a simple-to-use remote – including voice search with built-in Google Assistant™. Watch all your favorite streaming channels including Hulu, HBO, YouTube, and more. Even stream live TV with apps like YouTube TV™ (2).
  • Elegant compact design: Designed with simplicity in mind, the Epson EpiqVision Mini EF12 streaming laser projector has a clean, compact, and modern design to beautifully fit within any decor.
  • Epson MicroLaser™ array technology: Unique multi-array laser diode technology produces an exceptional level of brightness while significantly enhancing the black density.

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  • About this Deal:
    • Our research indicates that this Epson EpiqVision Mini EF12 3LCD Projector (Refurbished) is priced $251.23 lower (50.2% savings) than the next best available price from a reputable merchant with prices starting from $499.99 at the time of this post.
    • Please see the original post for additional details and give the WIKI and forum comments a read for helpful discussion.
  • About this Product:
  • About this Store:
    • Walmart's return policy is here. -Corwin

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Walmart has Epson EpiqVision Mini EF12 3LCD Portable Projector (Refurbished) on clearance for $248.76. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member charlesf718 for finding this deal.

Note, product must be sold/shipped by Walmart

Condition Notes (per the product page):
  • This product may not have been manufacturer certified but has been professionally inspected, tested and cleaned by Walmart Restored Program Sellers and Suppliers
  • Fully functional product in Like New Condition. Item may have very light micro-scratches, invisible at a distance of 8-12 inches (arm's length).
  • This product may include accessories which might not be original but will be compatible and fully functional.
  • This product may be returned within 90 days for free return or replacement if you are not satisfied.
  • Battery capacity exceeds 80% capacity relative to its new equivalent
Features:
  • Stunning picture quality up to 150 inches: Delivers an immersive viewing experience for TV shows, sporting events, gaming, and movies by accepting content up to 4K for an amazing Full-HD HDR picture.
  • Advanced scene adaptive color correction: Automatic scene-based color correction produces a clear and natural picture – regardless of the content being played.
  • True 3-chip projector design: Advanced 3LCD technology displays 100% of the RGB color signal for every frame. This allows for outstanding color accuracy while maintaining excellent color brightness, without any distracting "rainbowing" or "color brightness" issues seen with other projection technologies.
  • Auto picture skew and focus correction: Depending upon how you orient the projector to the wall, the projector will analyze the projected image and correct the geometry, while automatically focusing the picture for a beautiful viewing experience.
  • Chromecast™ built-in: Wirelessly cast your favorite content directly from your smartphone, tablet, or computer – including from popular Android™ and Apple devices (3).
  • Sound by Yamaha: Custom-designed audiophile speaker system offers a powerful and emotional performance that rivals soundbars; connect via Bluetooth to use as a standalone speaker.
  • Built-in Android TV (1): Latest Android TV interface with a simple-to-use remote – including voice search with built-in Google Assistant™. Watch all your favorite streaming channels including Hulu, HBO, YouTube, and more. Even stream live TV with apps like YouTube TV™ (2).
  • Elegant compact design: Designed with simplicity in mind, the Epson EpiqVision Mini EF12 streaming laser projector has a clean, compact, and modern design to beautifully fit within any decor.
  • Epson MicroLaser™ array technology: Unique multi-array laser diode technology produces an exceptional level of brightness while significantly enhancing the black density.

Editor's Notes

Written by Discombobulated | Staff
  • About this Deal:
    • Our research indicates that this Epson EpiqVision Mini EF12 3LCD Projector (Refurbished) is priced $251.23 lower (50.2% savings) than the next best available price from a reputable merchant with prices starting from $499.99 at the time of this post.
    • Please see the original post for additional details and give the WIKI and forum comments a read for helpful discussion.
  • About this Product:
  • About this Store:
    • Walmart's return policy is here. -Corwin

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gibsonbass
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Keep in mind this item is eligible for exchange only if opened or used.

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Apr 18, 2024 12:05 PM
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cmacclelApr 18, 2024 12:05 PM
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Quote from LivelyLocket1624 :
How much difference is it? Can't find it anywhere
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Restor...hbdg=L1400
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Apr 18, 2024 12:22 PM
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Apr 18, 2024 12:22 PM
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Quote from LivelyLocket1624 :
How much difference is it? Can't find it anywhere
appears to have the same projection technology, though the EF12 adds built in android tv, better build in speaker, different shape/size, and larger input lag (not sure why this is the case, but apparently it's noticable when gaming on it)
Apr 18, 2024 12:25 PM
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ArcanlawApr 18, 2024 12:25 PM
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Got a $50 projector last year for pool parties: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WRKSZ3D

Works great. Will this one be better? I'd like a little brighter, although the lm rating on this is 1000 and my $50 thing advertises like 4500lm
Apr 18, 2024 12:28 PM
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nikscraze88Apr 18, 2024 12:28 PM
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Quote from jrinco11 :
appears to have the same projection technology, though the EF12 adds built in android tv, better build in speaker, different shape/size, and larger input lag (not sure why this is the case, but apparently it's noticable when gaming on it)
This might help identify differences

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-E0N...-EF12.html
Apr 18, 2024 12:33 PM
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TheJagManApr 18, 2024 12:33 PM
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I have been looking for a small projector to use in hotels. At this price I'll give this one a shot. This will replace my EPSON HC 3500 which I sometimes use in hotels. Thanks OP!
Apr 18, 2024 12:34 PM
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BrentDApr 18, 2024 12:34 PM
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Quote from yaadev :
Can these by ceiling mounted? Look so big and boxy compared to other projectors
It's 5 inches tall and takes about 1/3 of the footprint of most projectors. It only looks big and boxy because it's not sitting next to anything recognizable in the photos.

There is a mounting plate available for wall or tripod mounting. Doesn't mention ceiling mounting, but I did see a review that said you can't flip the image for rear projection. That would suggest to me you probably can't flip the image vertically either, which would be required for ceiling mounting.
Last edited by BrentD April 18, 2024 at 05:41 AM.
Apr 18, 2024 12:38 PM
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JoeO6032Apr 18, 2024 12:38 PM
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Quote from Arcanlaw :
Got a $50 projector last year for pool parties: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WRKSZ3D

Works great. Will this one be better? I'd like a little brighter, although the lm rating on this is 1000 and my $50 thing advertises like 4500lm
Apples to oranges - this projector will be a lot brighter with a better image. The projector you purchased has an inflated lumens rating (likely closer to 100 lumens) because there is nobody regulating sweatshop projector ratings.

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Apr 18, 2024 12:43 PM
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charlesf718
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Apr 18, 2024 12:43 PM
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Quote from Besser :
3D compatible?
I can confirm it has a 3D app next to the file player that works like LG passive 3D, Side by Side , over under etc.
Apr 18, 2024 12:47 PM
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nikscraze88Apr 18, 2024 12:47 PM
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Anyone looking for difference between ef11 and ef12 , here it is . If you already have a firestick , ef11 would be a more compact option, less bulky.
Ef 11 is $211 vs ef12 $249

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-XZH...-EF12.html
Apr 18, 2024 12:54 PM
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wezlypipzApr 18, 2024 12:54 PM
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Quote from n.jahnavi99 :
Someone in the reviews is not happy with the keystone correction, any idea about it??
No issues with keystone on this projector and it's actually fairly elaborate allowing for lots of options. I had this projector but sold it a while back and regretted it so I grabbed it again. Audio is also amazing on this unit. It's a portable movie theater.
Apr 18, 2024 01:01 PM
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AmritSApr 18, 2024 01:01 PM
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I still can't figure out which 1 to get ef11 or ef12. I ordered both and can possibly return the 1 I don't open. I did grt the ef12 from Amazon for 800 and ended up returning it since I didn't feel it was worth 800 but it seems totally worth it for this price.

I couldn't figure out if I could use bluetooth with ef11, but the ef11 does not have earc.
Apr 18, 2024 01:13 PM
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nikscraze88Apr 18, 2024 01:13 PM
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Quote from AmritS :
I still can't figure out which 1 to get ef11 or ef12. I ordered both and can possibly return the 1 I don't open. I did grt the ef12 from Amazon for 800 and ended up returning it since I didn't feel it was worth 800 but it seems totally worth it for this price.

I couldn't figure out if I could use bluetooth with ef11, but the ef11 does not have earc.
I have a firestick and it connects to Bluetooth home theater system, if you already have a sound system setup then prob ef12 might not be useful and its bulky too, i ended up buying both but will keep ef11 and return ef12 . Not much difference apart from auto focus and keystones. Ef11 is good if you already have some kind of setup at home , ef12 is good if you want a new setup without worrying about the sound setup etc. bulb and picture quality are same , lot of youtube videos avl for ef11 vs ef12
Apr 18, 2024 01:14 PM
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AmritSApr 18, 2024 01:14 PM
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Good idea. Already have a spind system with Bluetooth and a fire stick!
Apr 18, 2024 01:15 PM
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yoFuApr 18, 2024 01:15 PM
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https://www.projectorcentral.com/...i_EF12.htm has these specs:
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White Brightness 1,000 Lumens (ISO)2
Color Brightness 1,000 Lumens3 CLO
Resolution 1920x1080
Aspect Ratio 16:9 (HD)
Dynamic Contrast 200,000:1
Display Type 0.62" 3LCD
Color Processing 10-bit
Input Lag 1080p/60: 111ms
Video Modes 720p, 1080i, 1080p/60, 1080p/24, 1080p/30, 1080p/50, 2160p/24, 2160p/60, 576i, 576p, 480p, 480i
Data Modes MAX 4096x2160

Lamp Type Laser Phosphor
Lamp Life 20,000 hours

Included Lens Fixed focal length , Powered focus
Optional Lenses No
Lens Shift No
Throw Distance 2.2' - 10.9' Calculate Throw Distance
Image Size 30.01" - 149.94"
Throw Ratio 1.00:1 (D:W)
Digital Keystone Horizontal & Vertical

Projector Size 5.30" x 6.90" x 6.90" (HxWxD)
Weight 4.7 lbs
Audible Noise 27 dB / 22 dB (Eco)
Internal Speakers 5.0 Watts × 2
Power 102 Watts 100V - 240V
Connection Panel Audio Out: Mini Jack
HDMI x 2
USB x 2
Wireless Networking

Features
  • Short-Throw
  • Geometric Correction
  • HDR
  • Auto Focus
  • Streaming Apps
  • Google Assistant
This is a fantastic price for a 1080, 1000 ANSI Lunens projector with the low noise output. Also, Epson is a reputable projector company, so these aren't made up specs like all those cheap ones on amazon. To me, the only negative is that this is an android device. Just get all the updates you can BEFORE use and stick with a wired HDMI connection. Don't use wifi if you care about privacy.
I had a few LCD projectors before switching to a lamp-based Epson that can be replaced. LCD-based projectors have a specific life span - 20K hours for this model. Nobody really knows how long it will last, but at least 20K hours. That's lower than claimed by some no-name projectors, but those marketing people will claim 6000 Lunens of brightness when their projectors are closer to 400 ANSI Lunens. Also, reputable projector companies make models that last more than 1-2 yrs. Think my Epson 1080 is 5 yrs old and it was 2+ yrs used when we got it. It has 2800 Lunens, for comparison. We found that too bright and always run in eco mode to lengthen the bulb life. If you can control the lighting in a room, 550 ANSI Lunens and higher are good enough. Brighter seems to always be better, Cheaper, Chinese no-name (annually they change their manufacturer name to avoid warranty claims) all lie about Lumens, sharpness, colors, and fan noise. The more they claim "quiet fans", the more likely they are lying and you can expect 55dB noise. That's been my experience.

Fan noise is always an issue with all projectors. Get it as low as possible. Under 30dB is best. Much over 35dB and you'll always hear the fan ... it is like the old sync lines on SONY Trinitron TVs/Monitors. Once someone pointed those out, all you can see at 1/3 and 2/3 height on the screen is the tiny, thing, sync lines.

Forget about the speakers in any projectors. If you are going to the effort to have a projector, go to the effort to have good sound too.

Assuming these projectors actually work "like new", this is a bargain. I'm tempted to have a spare.

Reputable projectors always - ALWAYS - spell out their ANSI LUNs and honest fan noise dBs. Optoma, Epson, Viewsonic, BenQ, and Nebula (Anker) is building a good name, for what they sell, but watch out for cheap versions. There might be a few brands I forgot. Sorry. If they sell for less than $350 normally, it is likely a Chinese cheapo, knock off projector. If you have any interest, spend less than $100 to try a 1080 or 720p cheap projector. Then decide if you want to spend for a quality projector. A well filled with a huge movie is vastly different than a 65inch TV - just saying. I never plan to have a TV in the house again. Projectors have ruined TVs for me.
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PaulGApr 18, 2024 01:20 PM
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Quote from gibsonbass :
Keep in mind this item is eligible for exchange only if opened or used.
I already ordered the E11 so I guess it's too late for me.

But if mine is defective, it's going back to the local store and we're going to fight. Cause it reads this:

This product may be returned within 90 days for free return or replacement if you are not satisfied.

Backed by 90-day free return to enable shopping with confidence.


If they're selling me a defective refurb and won't refund the money, we're going to have problems. Buying with confidence, to me, means I can get my money back on a defective refurb.

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