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This was in the news. I haven't contacted the dealer yet but it looks like $2210 pay down and $125 a month. My simple math says about $185 a month.
This excludes any dealer discounts. But may exclude some other fees. I have never leased so no clue.
Great as a third car. Note that this model didn't get very good reviews - hence it being priced accordingly.
https://www.toyota.com/midwest/de...icles=bz4x
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Toyota built this as a compliance car to fill a gap in the lineup and has zero focus on it or care. If anything, it is the 'look we built an EV, it sucks!'. The first production run had WHEELS FALLING OFF. They recalled every single one! The car is slow and just utterly wild in it's idiocy.
We test drove the badge engineered Subaru version - the Solterra. Same car, different logo.
The list of infuriating choices piled fast. Want to move the driver's seat? BEEPS. CONSTANT BEEPS.
Want to back up? It beeps on the inside and inside only. Who are they warning?! Me? I"M DRIVING THE CAR.
The performance is just bad. It has a quick little bit of torque and then falls on it's face.
Did I mention the range sucks and that the car does not support fast charging so you literally cannot roadtrip it without hour-long-stops?
All in all, it just felt like Toyota was completely uninterested in building it as it is lower margin than gas/hybrid.
Then you have the ioniq 5. Hyundai's focus is straight up on on beating the Tesla Model Y. They are serious and in it. The car is shockingly better looking in person than the BZ4X. The interior feels like tomorrow and has innovative ideas, way more range, way better software, etc.
Korea is currently having the same moment that Japan had in the 90s, Hyundai should be taken seriously, esp in the EV space.
TX offer is $4k down $219 a month plus TTL
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Toyota built this as a compliance car to fill a gap in the lineup and has zero focus on it or care. If anything, it is the 'look we built an EV, it sucks!'. The first production run had WHEELS FALLING OFF. They recalled every single one! The car is slow and just utterly wild in it's idiocy.
We test drove the badge engineered Subaru version - the Solterra. Same car, different logo.
The list of infuriating choices piled fast. Want to move the driver's seat? BEEPS. CONSTANT BEEPS.
Want to back up? It beeps on the inside and inside only. Who are they warning?! Me? I"M DRIVING THE CAR.
The performance is just bad. It has a quick little bit of torque and then falls on it's face.
Did I mention the range sucks and that the car does not support fast charging so you literally cannot roadtrip it without hour-long-stops?
All in all, it just felt like Toyota was completely uninterested in building it as it is lower margin than gas/hybrid.
Then you have the ioniq 5. Hyundai's focus is straight up on on beating the Tesla Model Y. They are serious and in it. The car is shockingly better looking in person than the BZ4X. The interior feels like tomorrow and has innovative ideas, way more range, way better software, etc.
Korea is currently having the same moment that Japan had in the 90s, Hyundai should be taken seriously, esp in the EV space.
The list of infuriating choices piled fast. Want to move the driver's seat? BEEPS. CONSTANT BEEPS.
Want to back up? It beeps on the inside and inside only. Who are they warning?! Me? I"M DRIVING THE CAR.
- you can turn this off
The performance is just bad. It has a quick little bit of torque and then falls on it's face.
- traded my 2019 wrx for a 2024 solterra... the solterra is faster in any non highway instance. UNLESS I launch my wrx. Its slow for an AWD EV but its faster than a base model Y. It's still fun.
Did I mention the range sucks and that the car does not support fast charging so you literally cannot roadtrip it without hour-long-stops?
- yup it is a commuting car not our trip car. I dont plan on ever dc fast charging or going beyond its 180 miles highway range. And my lease is dirt cheap so its worth it for how awesome the solterra drives. The 2024 fixed dc fast charging so it can actually hit 100kwh now.
Then you have the ioniq 5. Hyundai's focus is straight up on on beating the Tesla Model Y. They are serious and in it. The car is shockingly better looking in person than the BZ4X. The interior feels like tomorrow and has innovative ideas, way more range, way better software, etc.
- i test drove an ioniq 5 sel awd. Fast in a line, but boring otherwise. Terrible in corners.. feels heavy AF. Bad suspension. Cheap seats. Cheap interior. Bad stereo, Boring inside. No wireless android auto. Not even a usb c port inside lol. Range wasn't great either.. it dropped a lot in a short test drive. Solterra looked better to my wife. Solterra also has better ground clearance which matters around here.
Toyota built this as a compliance car to fill a gap in the lineup and has zero focus on it or care. If anything, it is the 'look we built an EV, it sucks!'. The first production run had WHEELS FALLING OFF. They recalled every single one! The car is slow and just utterly wild in it's idiocy.
We test drove the badge engineered Subaru version - the Solterra. Same car, different logo.
The list of infuriating choices piled fast. Want to move the driver's seat? BEEPS. CONSTANT BEEPS.
Want to back up? It beeps on the inside and inside only. Who are they warning?! Me? I"M DRIVING THE CAR.
The performance is just bad. It has a quick little bit of torque and then falls on it's face.
Did I mention the range sucks and that the car does not support fast charging so you literally cannot roadtrip it without hour-long-stops?
All in all, it just felt like Toyota was completely uninterested in building it as it is lower margin than gas/hybrid.
Then you have the ioniq 5. Hyundai's focus is straight up on on beating the Tesla Model Y. They are serious and in it. The car is shockingly better looking in person than the BZ4X. The interior feels like tomorrow and has innovative ideas, way more range, way better software, etc.
Korea is currently having the same moment that Japan had in the 90s, Hyundai should be taken seriously, esp in the EV space.
I am in Maine where we get an extra 2k of incentives. This deal here assumes states with even higher rebates.
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Maybe he is referring to the Hyundai SSD
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Anyone saying, I don't like this car because of the PUBLIC charging is telling on themselves. You don't buy electric cars and use the public charging 90+% of the time. It costs almost double the cost of charging overnight and at home. Also, fast charging has issues in itself:
I have two examples of over 200k on my Lexus hybrids on original hybrid battery.
It's a lease, not about long life battery. It's going to only be an obstacle, especially with how behind the electrical infrastructure is in many cities. Wasn't it only last year that California had to mandate "ev charging hours"? This is doing no one a favor while still using fossil fuels to make electricity that is lost through powerlines to be brought to a battery. America shooting itself in the foot as per usual.
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Yes, the range is short. But for use case of 5-10 miles to work and many chargers around work area, should be fairly easy to charge. Don't like that I will have to anticipate driving mileage, charging twice a week or more, but willing to give it a go for 3 years. Family is about 110 miles away so can make that trip easily with full charge.
Pulled the trigger on a 36 month lease. There are none in stock so have to wait for delivery of in transit vehicles. Due end of April to mid May delivery. The buy out price in 3 years is $21k so there is a chance that this car may be worth more. That would make it a slick deal.