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This was in the news. I haven't contacted the dealer yet but it looks like $2210 pay down and $125 a month. My simple math says about $185 a month.
This excludes any dealer discounts. But may exclude some other fees. I have never leased so no clue.
Great as a third car. Note that this model didn't get very good reviews - hence it being priced accordingly.
https://www.toyota.com/midwest/de...icles=bz4x
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Toyota built this as a compliance car to fill a gap in the lineup and has zero focus on it or care. If anything, it is the 'look we built an EV, it sucks!'. The first production run had WHEELS FALLING OFF. They recalled every single one! The car is slow and just utterly wild in it's idiocy.
We test drove the badge engineered Subaru version - the Solterra. Same car, different logo.
The list of infuriating choices piled fast. Want to move the driver's seat? BEEPS. CONSTANT BEEPS.
Want to back up? It beeps on the inside and inside only. Who are they warning?! Me? I"M DRIVING THE CAR.
The performance is just bad. It has a quick little bit of torque and then falls on it's face.
Did I mention the range sucks and that the car does not support fast charging so you literally cannot roadtrip it without hour-long-stops?
All in all, it just felt like Toyota was completely uninterested in building it as it is lower margin than gas/hybrid.
Then you have the ioniq 5. Hyundai's focus is straight up on on beating the Tesla Model Y. They are serious and in it. The car is shockingly better looking in person than the BZ4X. The interior feels like tomorrow and has innovative ideas, way more range, way better software, etc.
Korea is currently having the same moment that Japan had in the 90s, Hyundai should be taken seriously, esp in the EV space.
TX offer is $4k down $219 a month plus TTL
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I was able to talk to several dealerships to get as much as $4000 off MSRP with no dealer installed accessories or junk fees for the XLE. Dealership in the urban area mostly won't go beyond $3000 off TSRP but suburban area ones would go lower. I have not encountered any dealership trying to sell this car with mark-up yet, mostly with 1-2k off TSRP on Toyota's inventory website.
Good advice. I will try to do so. I thought that the lower they will go is the advertised one on the toyota website but maybe I will try to go lower.
Cool. Mind saying which dealer in that area?
Never, but I have driven in deserts where you can drive over 300 miles until the next place you could charge an electric vehicle. A place with a real charger, not a wall plug.
Toyota sold 1890 total in the US in Q1. Around 600 per month in 50 States. About 12 in each state.
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Correct and agree…
Tesla churning out 2 million vehicles a year because of this issue so folks can replace.
Good point. Thank you.
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As long as you are willing to go to a dealership further away from your home, you should be able to negotiate the discount bigger than what is listed on Toyota website. I ended up driving 200 miles for the car. They didn't even have 50% charged on the car so I ended up charging multiple times at the free EVgo station to get home.
Yes me too
2. ICEs have a far higher chance of catching fire than BEVs. Hybrids are worse than either.
2. I have not seen any data to support your point 2 and I don't know how such data would be calculated since EVs make up only about 3% of the vehicles in the US but even assuming that statement were true, the issue is what happens when EVs catch fire because most local fire departments have no equipment to rapidly extinguish EV fires so they burn at high temperatures for extended periods of time and those fires can therefore damage nearby buildings, cars (as Pres Joe' s entourage found out in Nantucket) and worse yet would be more likely to kill any occupants. In fact several EV manufacturers warn you not to put your EV in a garage for this very reason.
3. EVs put an untenable strain on the electrical grid that is already taxed beyond capacity in many areas (eg California) and EVs are only 3% of vehicles . What happens to the grid when EVs are required by law to be 100% of the cars sold? Hint: the answer is "disaster" !
3. EVs put an untenable strain on the electrical grid that is already taxed beyond capacity in many areas (eg California) and EVs are only 3% of vehicles . What happens to the grid when EVs are required by law to be 100% of the cars sold? Hint: the answer is "disaster" !
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Electric Vehicle Myths https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles..
Some people will cling to any contorted, short-sighted rationale they can find to justify their reactionary and contrarian culture-war posture.
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Electric Vehicle Myths https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles..