Select Toyota Dealerships are offering a
36-Month Lease on 2023 Toyota bZ4X XLE Electric Car as listed below. This offer is
limited to select locations/dealerships only.
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Example deals:
- Northern California
- 36-Month Lease on 2023 Toyota bZ4X XLE Electric Car $1999 down + $129 per month = $6643 total
- Southern California
- 36-Month Lease on 2023 Toyota bZ4X XLE Electric Car $1999 down + $139 per month = $7003 total
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Toyota built this as a compliance car to fill a gap in the lineup and has zero focus on it or care. If anything, it is the 'look we built an EV, it sucks!'. The first production run had WHEELS FALLING OFF. They recalled every single one! The car is slow and just utterly wild in it's idiocy.
We test drove the badge engineered Subaru version - the Solterra. Same car, different logo.
The list of infuriating choices piled fast. Want to move the driver's seat? BEEPS. CONSTANT BEEPS.
Want to back up? It beeps on the inside and inside only. Who are they warning?! Me? I"M DRIVING THE CAR.
The performance is just bad. It has a quick little bit of torque and then falls on it's face.
Did I mention the range sucks and that the car does not support fast charging so you literally cannot roadtrip it without hour-long-stops?
All in all, it just felt like Toyota was completely uninterested in building it as it is lower margin than gas/hybrid.
Then you have the ioniq 5. Hyundai's focus is straight up on on beating the Tesla Model Y. They are serious and in it. The car is shockingly better looking in person than the BZ4X. The interior feels like tomorrow and has innovative ideas, way more range, way better software, etc.
Korea is currently having the same moment that Japan had in the 90s, Hyundai should be taken seriously, esp in the EV space.
TX offer is $4k down $219 a month plus TTL
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"Well, because I hit a pothole and the car was totaled."
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"Well, because I hit a pothole and the car was totaled."
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Tesla churning out 2 million vehicles a year because of this issue so folks can replace.
Good point. Thank you.
As long as you are willing to go to a dealership further away from your home, you should be able to negotiate the discount bigger than what is listed on Toyota website. I ended up driving 200 miles for the car. They didn't even have 50% charged on the car so I ended up charging multiple times at the free EVgo station to get home.
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2. ICEs have a far higher chance of catching fire than BEVs. Hybrids are worse than either.
2. I have not seen any data to support your point 2 and I don't know how such data would be calculated since EVs make up only about 3% of the vehicles in the US but even assuming that statement were true, the issue is what happens when EVs catch fire because most local fire departments have no equipment to rapidly extinguish EV fires so they burn at high temperatures for extended periods of time and those fires can therefore damage nearby buildings, cars (as Pres Joe' s entourage found out in Nantucket) and worse yet would be more likely to kill any occupants. In fact several EV manufacturers warn you not to put your EV in a garage for this very reason.
3. EVs put an untenable strain on the electrical grid that is already taxed beyond capacity in many areas (eg California) and EVs are only 3% of vehicles . What happens to the grid when EVs are required by law to be 100% of the cars sold? Hint: the answer is "disaster" !
3. EVs put an untenable strain on the electrical grid that is already taxed beyond capacity in many areas (eg California) and EVs are only 3% of vehicles . What happens to the grid when EVs are required by law to be 100% of the cars sold? Hint: the answer is "disaster" !
Electric Vehicle Myths https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles..
Electric Vehicle Myths https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles..
Electric Vehicle Myths https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles..
Man you put a lot of effort into pushing nonsense pseudo-science against the EPAS actual science.
Your brake garbage for example has already been debunked any number of times in previous EV threads- EVs do the vast majority of their braking with motor regen.... not brake pads
It's rare to ever need to replace the pads on an EV because they hardly ever get used... on average they will pollute far less via brake pad dust than gasoline cars will.
So you're managed to misunderstand your way to 100% the wrong conclusion there- as you have on most of what you wrote.
Also, perhaps you're unaware, but oil and gas also require mining.... and require vastly more, repeatedly, mining.
Once you mine the lithium for a car battery you don't need to mine it again-- it'll keep that car going, and then be like 99% recycled into the next one, for decades.... and you can power it with clean energy over those decades....
VS an iCE car where you have to constantly mine, transport, refine, transport again, so that car can refuel weekly on dirty fuel it burns.
Also the weight thing is grossly overstated... my Model 3 for example is within a few percent of the weight of comparable ICE vehicles (BMW 3 series, Lexus IS350, etc).... in some trims it's not even 100 lbs heavier, let alone 1000.
The fact GM sells like 5 insanely heavy EV hummers a month doesn't really change that.
The GRID CAN NOT HANDLE IT FUD has also been repeatedly debunked-- here's an actual engineer explaining it for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dfyG6F
The rambling about ICs and server farms especially went off the rails-- it has no direct relation to EVs in the first place--and there's no "anticipated increase" in efficiency and lower costs for internal combustion because it's a century plus old tech.... they've already extracted those improvements a long time ago.... Whereas wind/solar are still relatively young in their S-curves of development and adoption and have lots of low hanging fruit from scaling to reap....
This is basic econ stuff (read about Wrights law sometime).
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