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16TB Seagate Exos X24 Enterprise 3.5" 7.2K RPM SATA Hard Drive (Recertified)

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Server Part Deals has 16TB Seagate Exos X24 Enterprise 3.5" 7.2K RPM SATA Hard Drive (Manufacturer Recertified, ST16000NM000H) on sale for $139.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member scud133 for sharing this deal.

Specs:
  • 16TB Capacity
  • 7200 RPM Spindle Speed
  • 3.5" Form Factor
  • 512 MB Cache
  • Max Sustained transfer rate OD (MiB/s): 272 (285 MB/s max)
  • Sustained transfer rate OD (MiB/s): 259 (272 MB/s max)
  • Uses conventional magnetic recording (CMR)
  • Read/write performance of 168/550 IOPS

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  • About this Deal:
    • 2 Years Seller Limited Period Warranty
    • At the time of this posting, our research indicates that this is $8.01 lower than the next best available comparable prices starting from $148. -SaltyOne

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Server Part Deals has 16TB Seagate Exos X24 Enterprise 3.5" 7.2K RPM SATA Hard Drive (Manufacturer Recertified, ST16000NM000H) on sale for $139.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member scud133 for sharing this deal.

Specs:
  • 16TB Capacity
  • 7200 RPM Spindle Speed
  • 3.5" Form Factor
  • 512 MB Cache
  • Max Sustained transfer rate OD (MiB/s): 272 (285 MB/s max)
  • Sustained transfer rate OD (MiB/s): 259 (272 MB/s max)
  • Uses conventional magnetic recording (CMR)
  • Read/write performance of 168/550 IOPS

Editor's Notes

Written by slickdewmaster | Staff
  • About this Deal:
    • 2 Years Seller Limited Period Warranty
    • At the time of this posting, our research indicates that this is $8.01 lower than the next best available comparable prices starting from $148. -SaltyOne

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Egat
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When a refurbished drive has low hours it's because the SMART data got reset during the refurbishment process.

They're still great deals. You're getting the remaining useful life on a drive made to run for a long time at high data rates. And, you can buy double the disks vs new ones, so you can setup your backup even easier.
wiiwok
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Might as well use the most recently published stats...

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/ba...-for-2023/

TLDR; avoid Seagate 12tb and 14tb. 16tb drives so far look very good (X18). No published data yet on X24.
jkilez
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This should be boilerplate on any Server Part Deals post.

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Quote from AndrewP3592 :
Most people with the Seagate sucks mentality have very little real world basis aside from consumer drive issues. I run hundreds of the Seagates and I've ran hundreds of Western Digital. More of my "early" failures were WDs but I'm not going to shit on WD, a lot of it comes down to the specific model/capacity. Folks need to look at the Backblaze stats and make a decision based on that.

At the end of the day ALL spinning drives will fail at some point and you should have appropriate back ups in place for when that eventuality happens.
I was one of the Seagate haters. Mainly because of previous bad experiences with their drives. Had 0 bad experience with WD and their customer service was top notch. My opinion toward Seagate changed with their EXOS line of drives. They have been performing really nice for me. Most of the hate you see posted online is really Seagate's own fault for the really bad quality they used to have years ago. It is going to take some time for that bad reputation to go away. But agree with you, Seagate drive ain't that bad as they used to be. I just ignore those posts hating on Seagate.
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cockadoodleApr 28, 2024 12:41 AM
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Quote from wicked123 :
😂 ooooook.

Check backblaze stats and you will see they still have the biggest hard drive failure rates from any company.

My friend said the same thing "SeaGates are good now". I bought one and within a year it died, I lost all my data. Huge collection of movies, music, games, programs, all my tools that I coded myself.

Shouldn't have went with his word even though he's in IT. I'm in the space too but I thought sure why not I'll give them a shot.

Data is priceless, if you want to lose it go with SeaGate 🤙
Backups bro...
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Quote from StefanoM3235 :
That's not always the case, both SPD and GHD guarantee that they never get reset. Plus, these were probably manufactured in 2024 (X24) so they couldn't possibly have too much time on them
Where do they guarantee that? Also, manufacturer recertified drives are almost certain to have SMART data reset. I've never seen one that hasn't. Seller refurbished is another story.

Quote from wicked123 :
Seagate is bottom of the barrel trash. One of the companies with the highest failure rate. Do yourself a favor and stay away.

Western Digital is #1. HGST is #2 but a close second at that.

Anything else, run. ESPECIALLY, SeaGate, do a 5k Marathon.
It's not like there's many choices left in the HD realm. I think it's pretty much down to WD, Seagate, and Toshiba. Hitachi/HGST is now part of WD.
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sc2Apr 28, 2024 01:25 AM
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Quote from wicked123 :
😂 ooooook.

Check backblaze stats and you will see they still have the biggest hard drive failure rates from any company.

My friend said the same thing "SeaGates are good now". I bought one and within a year it died, I lost all my data. Huge collection of movies, music, games, programs, all my tools that I coded myself.

Shouldn't have went with his word even though he's in IT. I'm in the space too but I thought sure why not I'll give them a shot.

Data is priceless, if you want to lose it go with SeaGate 🤙
ALL drives fail. A L L ! ! ! Do not ever leave data you care about in any way on a single drive - ever.
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keithjcaApr 28, 2024 02:15 AM
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Hello, can anyone recommend either a Western Digital ultra star drive or Seagate exos based on backblaze data?
I couldn't figure out the stats between certain models such x24, x20 and ultrastar, etc
I am looking for 18 to 22 tb
I have both wd red pros and iron wolf pro drives
in my nas.
How loud are enterprise drives compared to these ones I already own?
Thanks in advance.
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Quote from wicked123 :
😂 ooooook.

Check backblaze stats and you will see they still have the biggest hard drive failure rates from any company.

My friend said the same thing "SeaGates are good now". I bought one and within a year it died, I lost all my data. Huge collection of movies, music, games, programs, all my tools that I coded myself.

Shouldn't have went with his word even though he's in IT. I'm in the space too but I thought sure why not I'll give them a shot.

Data is priceless, if you want to lose it go with SeaGate 🤙
Like you said, data is priceless and regardless of what drive vendor someone decides to use they should have a "3-2-1" backup plan if they care about the data. I'm not trying to convince anyone to buy Seagate, just saying that the bad reputation they have was earned by their bad quality. They used to be really really bad, but to be fair right now they are not as bad and have decent drives at least in the EXOS and IronWolf lines.

I have a mix of drives trying to be extra careful and not putting all the eggs in one basket. So far the Seagate EXOS I got have been working fine for more than five years and performing better than the WDs one. Again, I can only speak of my own experience and specifically for the EXOS that are enterprise drives. That means they usually design them with long MTBF.
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Quote from wbs3333 :
I have a mix of drives trying to be extra careful and not putting all the eggs in one basket.
I am a very big fan of this method.


Quote from keithjca :
Hello, can anyone recommend either a Western Digital ultra star drive or Seagate exos based on backblaze data?
I couldn't figure out the stats between certain models such x24, x20 and ultrastar, etc
I am looking for 18 to 22 tb
I have both wd red pros and iron wolf pro drives
in my nas.
How loud are enterprise drives compared to these ones I already own?
Thanks in advance.
Realistically, there probably isn't a huge difference you will notice between the different models. The WD DC HC### and Seagate Exos X## generally have relatively small generational improvements. The WD drives are probably a tad more reliable. The main issue to be aware of is that some sub-models have the Power Disable feature, which will need to be mitigated in some systems.

There's a good chance the enterprise class drives will have noticeably louder seeks than the other drives.
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alexwbushApr 28, 2024 06:21 AM
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How are the temperatures and noise in these compared to WD Red Pro?
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DataMeisterApr 28, 2024 06:49 AM
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Does anyone know what the letters on the end mean?

This model has an H on the end, but Backblaze Drive Stats lists one with a G on the end. The G model looks like it is performing pretty well for Backblaze with a 0.70% annual failure rate so far.
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xxBiohazrDxxApr 28, 2024 12:21 PM
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Thanks, got 15
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Anubis12Apr 28, 2024 01:48 PM
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Are these good for use in Synology NAS?
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StefanoM3235Apr 28, 2024 01:50 PM
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Quote from Anubis12 :
Are these good for use in Synology NAS?
yes that's my case use

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