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16TB Seagate Exos X24 Enterprise 3.5" 7.2K RPM SATA Hard Drive (Recertified)

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Server Part Deals has 16TB Seagate Exos X24 Enterprise 3.5" 7.2K RPM SATA Hard Drive (Manufacturer Recertified, ST16000NM000H) on sale for $139.99. Shipping is free.

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Specs:
  • 16TB Capacity
  • 7200 RPM Spindle Speed
  • 3.5" Form Factor
  • 512 MB Cache
  • Max Sustained transfer rate OD (MiB/s): 272 (285 MB/s max)
  • Sustained transfer rate OD (MiB/s): 259 (272 MB/s max)
  • Uses conventional magnetic recording (CMR)
  • Read/write performance of 168/550 IOPS

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  • About this Deal:
    • 2 Years Seller Limited Period Warranty
    • At the time of this posting, our research indicates that this is $8.01 lower than the next best available comparable prices starting from $148. -SaltyOne

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Server Part Deals has 16TB Seagate Exos X24 Enterprise 3.5" 7.2K RPM SATA Hard Drive (Manufacturer Recertified, ST16000NM000H) on sale for $139.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member scud133 for sharing this deal.

Specs:
  • 16TB Capacity
  • 7200 RPM Spindle Speed
  • 3.5" Form Factor
  • 512 MB Cache
  • Max Sustained transfer rate OD (MiB/s): 272 (285 MB/s max)
  • Sustained transfer rate OD (MiB/s): 259 (272 MB/s max)
  • Uses conventional magnetic recording (CMR)
  • Read/write performance of 168/550 IOPS

Editor's Notes

Written by slickdewmaster | Staff
  • About this Deal:
    • 2 Years Seller Limited Period Warranty
    • At the time of this posting, our research indicates that this is $8.01 lower than the next best available comparable prices starting from $148. -SaltyOne

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Egat
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When a refurbished drive has low hours it's because the SMART data got reset during the refurbishment process.

They're still great deals. You're getting the remaining useful life on a drive made to run for a long time at high data rates. And, you can buy double the disks vs new ones, so you can setup your backup even easier.
wiiwok
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Might as well use the most recently published stats...

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/ba...-for-2023/

TLDR; avoid Seagate 12tb and 14tb. 16tb drives so far look very good (X18). No published data yet on X24.
jkilez
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This should be boilerplate on any Server Part Deals post.

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Apr 29, 2024
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DataMeister
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Quote from Bullet1979 :
I have my current Plex library spanned across a bunch of smaller drives as my library has grown over the years...

In the interest of simplifying that set up, what would be the most practical and effective way of buying 4 of these drives to have 32TB of storage?
Well if your drive current setup is part of something like Windows Storage Spaces (a single pool), then adding these to the pool and marking the older drives for removal would be the easiest way. If not then it gets complicated. Plex doesn't make moving folders to a new drive easy.

Theoretically you might be able to copy the data, add the new copies to the same Plex Library, and rescan. Plex should add the new location as extra copies, then once it has finished scanning, you remove the old location from the library. With any luck Plex will maintain all the custom information and change where it pulls the stream from. You may have to empty the trash in Plex to get rid of the missing media notification. NOTE: I haven't tried this, I'm just guessing that this should work.
Last edited by DataMeister April 29, 2024 at 08:24 AM.
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Apr 29, 2024
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Bullet1979
Apr 29, 2024
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Quote from DataMeister :
Well if your drive current setup is part of something like Windows Storage Spaces (a single pool), then adding these to the pool and marking the older drives for removal would be the easiest way. If not then it gets complicated. Plex doesn't make moving folders to a new drive easy.

Theoretically you might be able to copy the data, add the new copies to the same Plex Library, and rescan. Plex should add the new location as extra copies, then once it has finished scanning, you remove the old location from the library. With any luck Plex will maintain all the custom information and change where it pulls the stream from. You may have to empty the trash in Plex to get rid of the missing media notification. NOTE: I haven't tried this, I'm just guessing that this should work.
Sorry yeah I didn't mean to ask in the context of Plex - I would have to deal with that headache. I more-so was looking for recommendations on what to put the drives in and how to interface with them.
Apr 29, 2024
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GardenGnomeFish
Apr 29, 2024
48 Posts
Quote from wlandy :
Same concern.
X24's was unveiled on Oct 2023 and initial release for qualifications to major customers on early 2024. Can these be qualification drives that have been run thru extensive testing and decommissioned? On my previous work, we used to run a shit load of test on new drive releases for qualifications, once qualified, these are used in lab and another set of purchase for datacenter use. Any failures are returned to the manufacturer for Failure Analysis.

https://investors.seagate.com/new...fault.aspx
Apr 29, 2024
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FantasticStag377
Apr 29, 2024
183 Posts
These are great for Unraid/Plex Drives!
Apr 29, 2024
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GardenGnomeFish
Apr 29, 2024
48 Posts
welp... its up to 149.99 already... Frown
Apr 29, 2024
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DataMeister
Apr 29, 2024
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Quote from GardenGnomeFish :
welp... its up to 149.99 already...
They still have some X16 models for the $140 price. They probably realized the X24 was selling faster so changed the price to help clear out the older models.
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Apr 29, 2024
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I3lackI3ox
Apr 29, 2024
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lol wow, since the late 90's/early 2000s the only drives that have ever failed me were Seagates, never purchased them ever since, good to know nothing has changed.

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Apr 29, 2024
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MadPup
Apr 29, 2024
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Quote from Bullet1979 :
I have my current Plex library spanned across a bunch of smaller drives as my library has grown over the years...

In the interest of simplifying that set up, what would be the most practical and effective way of buying 4 of these drives to have 32TB of storage?
Get a 4-bay NAS and use them in a RAID 1 or 10 configuration (forget RAID 5). Use your existing drives for regular backups... perhaps in external USB enclosures hanging off the NAS.
Apr 29, 2024
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rockinyp
Apr 29, 2024
17 Posts
Thanks for the post! I just picked up 3 for my new Synology NAS that arrives next week. Saved about $350 from the drives I originally ordered! I plan to keep all of my original data intact on their current disks while I test these out to ensure I don't have the problems others have mentioned here.
Apr 29, 2024
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fallbreak
Apr 29, 2024
517 Posts
Quote from GardenGnomeFish :
X24's was unveiled on Oct 2023 and initial release for qualifications to major customers on early 2024. Can these be qualification drives that have been run thru extensive testing and decommissioned? On my previous work, we used to run a shit load of test on new drive releases for qualifications, once qualified, these are used in lab and another set of purchase for datacenter use. Any failures are returned to the manufacturer for Failure Analysis.

https://investors.seagate.com/new...fault.aspx
These are indeed a bit odd. Usually such data center qualifications are done with the max capacities a series has to offer, here 24TB with 10 disks.
The X24 16TB is either a 6D or a 7D according to the Product Manual you will find on Seagate's website. These might have a systemic issue which was fixed during the refurbishment. It might just be a firmware update removing advanced features needed for cloud service providers which may not have worked correctly (yes, they often have specific tailored firmware).
Apr 29, 2024
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LeoMont
Apr 29, 2024
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Our community has rated this post as helpful. If you agree, why not thank LeoMont

Quote from Azrael_the_Cat :
There are lots of reasons why a new drive model may have refurbs:

New models may have manufacturing issues and fail final testing at the factory

Infant mortality is much higher than mid term reliability

They might actually be honest and not sell finished goods that fail final test and get repaired as new.

This is a very small percentage of their total drive manufacturing and to the lay person may seem like a large quantity.
A month ago, I bought two Seagate X24 16TB from this same vendor for $170 each. They are currently running in a Synology DS224+ and I am happy with the performance and price. I did first a full scan of the drives (took 22 hours) and both disk passed without errors.

Here are some guess about these refurbished drive sourced from the manufacturer.
The 24TB drive has 10 internal disk with 20 heads.
The 20TB drive has 9 internal disk with 18 heads.
The 16TB drive has 8 or 7 internal disk with 15 or 14 heads.

In production testing, if the 24TB has a defective 1 of the 10 disk platters, the firmware could be modified to reconfigure it as a 20 TB. If the defect is on 2 disk platters, it could become a 16TB refurbished drive.

Note: These are pure speculation, I am just another guy on the internet.


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cockadoodle
Apr 29, 2024
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Quote from VioletTent657 :
I don't think you know what incoherent means.
"Remember that these drives are OK for data you don't want to lose or have multiple backups"

Poster's sentence above in quotes. Why would a person use these crappy seagate drives for data they DON'T WANT TO LOSE. Then poster goes on to list data that is easily replaceable after quoted sentence above.

Did you get your education in a liberal school system where they just pass you to next grade if you are a failure?
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Azrael_the_Cat
Apr 29, 2024
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Quote from LeoMont :
A month ago, I bought two Seagate X24 16TB from this same vendor for $170 each. They are currently running in a Synology DS224+ and I am happy with the performance and price. I did first a full scan of the drives (took 22 hours) and both disk passed without errors.

Here are some guess about these refurbished drive sourced from the manufacturer.
The 24TB drive has 10 internal disk with 20 heads.
The 20TB drive has 9 internal disk with 18 heads.
The 16TB drive has 8 or 7 internal disk with 15 or 14 heads.

In production testing, if the 24TB has a defective 1 of the 10 disk platters, the firmware could be modified to reconfigure it as a 20 TB. If the defect is on 2 disk platters, it could become a 16TB refurbished drive.

Note: These are pure speculation, I am just another guy on the internet.
That's actually an interesting suggestion. I wonder if they would do it that way. You'd definitely see a difference in weight and heat generation between a REAL one and a reconfigured one.

From a refurbishment labor perspective that could make a lot of sense.

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PonuryRolnik
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That is great deal, thanks!

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Azrael_the_Cat
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Quote from cockadoodle :
"Remember that these drives are OK for data you don't want to lose or have multiple backups"

Poster's sentence above in quotes. Why would a person use these crappy seagate drives for data they DON'T WANT TO LOSE. Then poster goes on to list data that is easily replaceable after quoted sentence above.

Did you get your education in a liberal school system where they just pass you to next grade if you are a failure?
Don't be rude. It just makes you sound uneducated if you can't defend a position without insulting someone.

There is nothing wrong with refurbished drives, especially these ones that are nearly new, and haven't even been on the market for very long. There is plenty of statistical manufacturing data that shows that a refurbished drive (that is new and only suffered from infant mortality) is MORE reliable than one right off the manufacturing line. That's one of the main reason manufacturers of high reliability systems have burn in tests: to ferret out early failures and IMPROVE reliability of the end products delivered to customers.

And seriously what are you doing in a refurb thread if you just want to crap on it. You aren't helping, you clearly aren't learning, and you are definitely not buying one. GO AWAY.

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