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$25 minimum to earn APY
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Provided by Webster Bank, N.A. ("Webster Bank"), an insured FDIC institution.
*Annual Percentage Yield (APY) is accurate as of 6/4/2024. Rate is subject to certain terms and conditions. You must deposit at least $5,000 to open your account and maintain $25 to earn the disclosed APY. Rate and APY may change at any time. Fees may reduce earnings.
Keep track of your savings with online and mobile banking
Provided by Webster Bank, N.A. ("Webster Bank"), an insured FDIC institution.
The APY dropped 0.05% on 6/4/24, 5.35% --> 5.30%
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be aware that they have a weekly withdrawal limit.
If you need to withdraw all your money at once you can not
I haven't used them personally, but a coworker of mine has and he said they're solid. Not just the rate, but ease of use, mobile app, customer service etc. was great. Wealthfront looks like a solid option as well, but it's technically not a HYSA. At least not in the traditional sense since it has checking account features built into it as well.
BrioDirect is an online brand of Webster Bank (FDIC insured), which has been around for almost 90 years and has 177 branch stores across the country (in case that's a benefit to you). Wealthfront is online only and not technically a bank. They distribute your money to banks that are FDIC insured, so you're covered that way.
I think both are good options, so it comes down to your personal preferences. I would opt for the higher rate if there's no major differentiator between the two products (and your money is insured), but that's just me. Some people prefer to go with a known brand they trust and will sacrifice interest in return. American Express Savings, for example, are popular despite only offering 4.25%.
My only complaint with them is how they handle beneficiaries.
You have to send them a "special" message formatted just the way they want it. They don't have an online form or a PDF to make it easier.
On top of that, I can't get them to acknowledge in a formal way that my beneficiaries have been properly assigned.
I don't think it's too much to ask that they send me either a message, or an email, or god forbid a USPS letter showing me the beneficiary info they have on file.
They just want you to take their word for it. As anyone who's dealt with an estate after a person has died will tell you, it's pretty important that you get these details done, and done correctly.
As far as they're concerned, I have to wait till I'm dead to find out they did it incorrectly.
I'm thinking seriously of walking away from them because of this.
Rant over.
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Think they were talking about USFR vs VMFXX. In which case, when I looked them up on Morningstar yesterday, the yields were showing 5.30% and 5.27% with expense ratios of 0.15% and 0.11% respectively.
That said, even with the changes Vanguard is making, I think if you're happy with them, the biggest reason to jump ship would be to secure a bonus like the one RobinHood offers (3%) or to try to "send a message" (which, good luck with that as a single investor with less than $100 million invested). Most, if not all of the new fees they're introducing are avoidable or wouldn't apply to your average person:
For people who open accounts like this Brio one to follow higher interest rates, what is the threshold where it is "worth" the hassle of switching to you? Assuming, of course, that you're moving far less than the FDIC limit of $250k.
I just watched the YouTube video you linked in this post to refresh my memory on this and cannot understand how anyone can possibly want to continue doing business with Vanguard when there are so many similar and better options out there.
I forgot to mention the mandatory account closure fee that Vanguard will be implementing as well -- I think it'll be $100. And that'll be assessed even if you withdraw everything, just leave $1.00 (or $0.00) in the account, and then close it down the road for housekeeping purposes.
I believe the account closure fee is only if you want to transfer in kind. If you liquidate your funds, and ACH your settlement out, there is no fee. Of course in a taxable account, you may not want to realize gains/losses at that point in time.
If you already have a brokerage account somewhere, or even if you don't, consider just using a federal money market fund. VMFXX at Vanguard, for example, has a compounded yield of 5.27 now, and similar at Fidelity and Schwab. Some of the earnings may be tax-free in your state as well.
Federal money market funds are not FDIC insured but are invested in government instruments that are arguably just a secure if not more secure than FDIC.
If you already have a brokerage account somewhere, or even if you don't, consider just using a federal money market fund. VMFXX at Vanguard, for example, has a compounded yield of 5.27 now, and similar at Fidelity and Schwab. Some of the earnings may be tax-free in your state as well.
Federal money market funds are not FDIC insured but are invested in government instruments that are arguably just a secure if not more secure than FDIC.
FDRXX and FZDXX ($10k+) are the equivalents to VMFXX. SPAXX is the default core fund for the Fidelity Cash Management Account, which is essentially a checking account.
If you already have a brokerage account somewhere, or even if you don't, consider just using a federal money market fund. VMFXX at Vanguard, for example, has a compounded yield of 5.27 now, and similar at Fidelity and Schwab. Some of the earnings may be tax-free in your state as well.
Federal money market funds are not FDIC insured but are invested in government instruments that are arguably just a secure if not more secure than FDIC.
It's a FinTech. That's all you need to know. Exit now before your money is frozen or worse, lost entirely due to a bankruptcy.
The banks they use are all FDIC insured though, so should be protected if they (or any individual account within it) goes bankrupt right? Per their FAQ: Raisin customers' funds are held in a custodial account with the bank or credit union that is providing your selected savings product(s). All financial institutions on the Raisin platform are insured by either the FDIC or NCUA, so your funds are held at a federally insured institution at all times and are eligible for deposit insurance up to institutional limits (typically $250,000 per depositor, per institution).
Also, Because Raisin is not a bank and your money is always handled by a federally insured financial institution, in the unlikely event that Raisin goes out of business, our FDIC-insured custodian bank would simply return any funds you have in our platform to your external linked bank account. Our custodian banks keep records of all funds held in our platform for added security.
Im genuinely curious though if there are risks Im not aware of per above?
The banks they use are all FDIC insured though, so should be protected if they (or any individual account within it) goes bankrupt right? Per their FAQ: Raisin customers' funds are held in a custodial account with the bank or credit union that is providing your selected savings product(s). All financial institutions on the Raisin platform are insured by either the FDIC or NCUA, so your funds are held at a federally insured institution at all times and are eligible for deposit insurance up to institutional limits (typically $250,000 per depositor, per institution).
Also, Because Raisin is not a bank and your money is always handled by a federally insured financial institution, in the unlikely event that Raisin goes out of business, our FDIC-insured custodian bank would simply return any funds you have in our platform to your external linked bank account. Our custodian banks keep records of all funds held in our platform for added security.
Im genuinely curious though if there are risks Im not aware of per above?
Yes, there are. Look up what has just happened with similar "FDIC insured" fintechs that relied on Synapse Brokerage LLC, which just filed for bankruptcy. Many people are currently very much screwed, or at the least, have a lot of money in limbo. Will they get their money back? Probably, but not definitely, and it surely doesn't look like it'll be a quick process if they do.
Why put yourself through the stress and hassle? Some people literally can't even pay their bills because they thought their funds in these "FDIC insured" fintechs were safe. There are better options.
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If you need to withdraw all your money at once you can not
BrioDirect is an online brand of Webster Bank (FDIC insured), which has been around for almost 90 years and has 177 branch stores across the country (in case that's a benefit to you). Wealthfront is online only and not technically a bank. They distribute your money to banks that are FDIC insured, so you're covered that way.
I think both are good options, so it comes down to your personal preferences. I would opt for the higher rate if there's no major differentiator between the two products (and your money is insured), but that's just me. Some people prefer to go with a known brand they trust and will sacrifice interest in return. American Express Savings, for example, are popular despite only offering 4.25%.
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You have to send them a "special" message formatted just the way they want it. They don't have an online form or a PDF to make it easier.
On top of that, I can't get them to acknowledge in a formal way that my beneficiaries have been properly assigned.
I don't think it's too much to ask that they send me either a message, or an email, or god forbid a USPS letter showing me the beneficiary info they have on file.
They just want you to take their word for it. As anyone who's dealt with an estate after a person has died will tell you, it's pretty important that you get these details done, and done correctly.
As far as they're concerned, I have to wait till I'm dead to find out they did it incorrectly.
I'm thinking seriously of walking away from them because of this.
Rant over.
.
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That said, even with the changes Vanguard is making, I think if you're happy with them, the biggest reason to jump ship would be to secure a bonus like the one RobinHood offers (3%) or to try to "send a message" (which, good luck with that as a single investor with less than $100 million invested). Most, if not all of the new fees they're introducing are avoidable or wouldn't apply to your average person:
https://youtu.be/QLBZoqTtQZ4?si=
For people who open accounts like this Brio one to follow higher interest rates, what is the threshold where it is "worth" the hassle of switching to you? Assuming, of course, that you're moving far less than the FDIC limit of $250k.
Edited to add, and then I just watched this one by the same person - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCWDPR8
I'd be really curious to know how many people are exiting out of Vanguard entirely.
Federal money market funds are not FDIC insured but are invested in government instruments that are arguably just a secure if not more secure than FDIC.
Anything similar for webull by chance?
Why isn't Raisin the way to go? I've been using it for a few months and it seems solid. Are there better places? What makes them better?
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Federal money market funds are not FDIC insured but are invested in government instruments that are arguably just a secure if not more secure than FDIC.
What is the fidelity equivalent?
https://www.fidelity.co
https://www.fidelity.co
Federal money market funds are not FDIC insured but are invested in government instruments that are arguably just a secure if not more secure than FDIC.
Also, Because Raisin is not a bank and your money is always handled by a federally insured financial institution, in the unlikely event that Raisin goes out of business, our FDIC-insured custodian bank would simply return any funds you have in our platform to your external linked bank account. Our custodian banks keep records of all funds held in our platform for added security.
Im genuinely curious though if there are risks Im not aware of per above?
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Also, Because Raisin is not a bank and your money is always handled by a federally insured financial institution, in the unlikely event that Raisin goes out of business, our FDIC-insured custodian bank would simply return any funds you have in our platform to your external linked bank account. Our custodian banks keep records of all funds held in our platform for added security.
Im genuinely curious though if there are risks Im not aware of per above?
Why put yourself through the stress and hassle? Some people literally can't even pay their bills because they thought their funds in these "FDIC insured" fintechs were safe. There are better options.