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Thanks. Better than being locked to a single service, still not as good as actually owning them. Sad that the only way to have a digital copy of a movie in your possession that can be used on typical devices (smart TV, tablet, phone, PC) is piracy. If you can do it, I guess there is also the route of ripping owned blu-rays. I really wish there was service that'd just let me download unencrypted copies of the content I've purchased. I really don't understand why they don't do it -- all of the encryption hasn't stopped the pirates anyway. Unencrypted copies of basically everything exist. So why not let people who actually want to pay for content purchase them legally?
I was excited for a second till I saw it was digital. I only do physical media, digital only is asking for some company to change the terms and conditions on the fly and delete your library. No thanks, keep it.
I was excited for a second till I saw it was digital. I only do physical media, digital only is asking for some company to change the terms and conditions on the fly and delete your library. No thanks, keep it.
The AACS design isn't really for blocking TITLES (i.e., taking away movies you purchased), the design is to block PLAYERS that have been compromised and can therefore be used to pirate. For example, if some cheap blu-ray player was somehow hacked and the digital stream intercepted to store a (pirated) copy of that digital stream, they can revoke the keys for that player. They're not going to revoke Interstellar the movie from being played in any player.
That said, from a legal perspective, it's true that neither is ownership, it's only a license to watch.
But we all know that shady companies (or companies collapsing, or being sold off to some other company that doesn't "want" to honor past stuff) can and very well might deny us future access to digital purchases, and they would probably be protected from lawsuits if that happened. Whereas it's almost inconceivable that the entertainment industry as a whole could get away with revoking access from a TITLE to be played by any player, without major legal consequences.
So, I disagree with what you were implying, in principle (in other words, I *DO* think there's a real difference in risk). However, I also know that I don't want to buy hundreds or thousands of physical copies, and have that much more hoarding garbage in the house. I just wouldn't buy them (or only a very select few of them) if in physical form, both because of having to store them, plus the cost is usually at least double. So, for that reason, I'm on board with digital, if the price is right ($5 or less) and it's UHD/4K, especially if it's HDR. I am just accepting the risk, and hope that if enough people are also on board, then perhaps there WOULD be legal consequences to some company pulling the plug. I think MA titles have significantly less risk.
One other downside of physical -- there's also significant risk in those discs no longer being playable down the road. That's happened to me numerous times. I'd venture to guess at least 10% of physical I've purchased in the past has problems at least at some point on the disc. Perhaps if I tried it in several players, it would work in one of them, but at that point the frustration outweighs everything else.
(I do think it's actually possible that some title could be revoked, similar to a book being banned, but I think the risk of that is pretty close to zero in most countries.)
For Interstellar, you also get physical media by paying few dollars more.
4K + Blu-ray + DVD + Digital Code for $10 (not sure why its a pre-order though) https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0...0DER&psc=1
It's the 10 year anniversary rerelease
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The AACS design isn't really for blocking TITLES (i.e., taking away movies you purchased), the design is to block PLAYERS that have been compromised and can therefore be used to pirate. For example, if some cheap blu-ray player was somehow hacked and the digital stream intercepted to store a (pirated) copy of that digital stream, they can revoke the keys for that player. They're not going to revoke Interstellar the movie from being played in any player.
That said, from a legal perspective, it's true that neither is ownership, it's only a license to watch.
But we all know that shady companies (or companies collapsing, or being sold off to some other company that doesn't "want" to honor past stuff) can and very well might deny us future access to digital purchases, and they would probably be protected from lawsuits if that happened. Whereas it's almost inconceivable that the entertainment industry as a whole could get away with revoking access from a TITLE to be played by any player, without major legal consequences.
So, I disagree with what you were implying, in principle (in other words, I *DO* think there's a real difference in risk). However, I also know that I don't want to buy hundreds or thousands of physical copies, and have that much more hoarding garbage in the house. I just wouldn't buy them (or only a very select few of them) if in physical form, both because of having to store them, plus the cost is usually at least double. So, for that reason, I'm on board with digital, if the price is right ($5 or less) and it's UHD/4K, especially if it's HDR. I am just accepting the risk, and hope that if enough people are also on board, then perhaps there WOULD be legal consequences to some company pulling the plug. I think MA titles have significantly less risk.
One other downside of physical -- there's also significant risk in those discs no longer being playable down the road. That's happened to me numerous times. I'd venture to guess at least 10% of physical I've purchased in the past has problems at least at some point on the disc. Perhaps if I tried it in several players, it would work in one of them, but at that point the frustration outweighs everything else.
(I do think it's actually possible that some title could be revoked, similar to a book being banned, but I think the risk of that is pretty close to zero in most countries.)
The only way to know you'll have access to playing a title indefinitely it to purchase the physical disk. You can get a UHD-friendly drive that can rip the Blu-Ray to a digital format, removing the encryption keys. Once it's stored digitally on a storage device, assuming you follow standard data preservation practices like 3-2-1, it doesn't matter if the disk gets scratched up. You will never lose access to the digital rip and will be able to play it indefinitely.
I understand you don't want to store physical media, but it's not really that much to store if you have a solid system. After ripping the brand new, unscratched disc to my PC, I promptly discard the Blu-Ray plastic case and place the disk in a CD binder. I don't even bother alphabetizing the discs. I never intend to even look at the disc again, although I retain the discs for legal reasons and "just in case".
I have over 400 discs stored in the size of a briefcase.
For Interstellar, you also get physical media by paying few dollars more.
4K + Blu-ray + DVD + Digital Code for $10 (not sure why its a pre-order though) https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0...0DER&psc=1
For those that care about their 4k/blu-ray library, this comes in the bigger dvd case.
The only way to know you'll have access to playing a title indefinitely it to purchase the physical disk. You can get a UHD-friendly drive that can rip the Blu-Ray to a digital format, removing the encryption keys. Once it's stored digitally on a storage device, assuming you follow standard data preservation practices like 3-2-1, it doesn't matter if the disk gets scratched up. You will never lose access to the digital rip and will be able to play it indefinitely.
I understand you don't want to store physical media, but it's not really that much to store if you have a solid system. After ripping the brand new, unscratched disc to my PC, I promptly discard the Blu-Ray plastic case and place the disk in a CD binder. I don't even bother alphabetizing the discs. I never intend to even look at the disc again, although I retain the discs for legal reasons and "just in case".
I have over 400 discs stored in the size of a briefcase.
I am interested in legally building up my digital library. Which products/software do you recommend for this purpose?
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That said, from a legal perspective, it's true that neither is ownership, it's only a license to watch.
But we all know that shady companies (or companies collapsing, or being sold off to some other company that doesn't "want" to honor past stuff) can and very well might deny us future access to digital purchases, and they would probably be protected from lawsuits if that happened. Whereas it's almost inconceivable that the entertainment industry as a whole could get away with revoking access from a TITLE to be played by any player, without major legal consequences.
So, I disagree with what you were implying, in principle (in other words, I *DO* think there's a real difference in risk). However, I also know that I don't want to buy hundreds or thousands of physical copies, and have that much more hoarding garbage in the house. I just wouldn't buy them (or only a very select few of them) if in physical form, both because of having to store them, plus the cost is usually at least double. So, for that reason, I'm on board with digital, if the price is right ($5 or less) and it's UHD/4K, especially if it's HDR. I am just accepting the risk, and hope that if enough people are also on board, then perhaps there WOULD be legal consequences to some company pulling the plug. I think MA titles have significantly less risk.
One other downside of physical -- there's also significant risk in those discs no longer being playable down the road. That's happened to me numerous times. I'd venture to guess at least 10% of physical I've purchased in the past has problems at least at some point on the disc. Perhaps if I tried it in several players, it would work in one of them, but at that point the frustration outweighs everything else.
(I do think it's actually possible that some title could be revoked, similar to a book being banned, but I think the risk of that is pretty close to zero in most countries.)
4K + Blu-ray + DVD + Digital Code for $10 (not sure why its a pre-order though)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0...0DER&psc=1
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That said, from a legal perspective, it's true that neither is ownership, it's only a license to watch.
But we all know that shady companies (or companies collapsing, or being sold off to some other company that doesn't "want" to honor past stuff) can and very well might deny us future access to digital purchases, and they would probably be protected from lawsuits if that happened. Whereas it's almost inconceivable that the entertainment industry as a whole could get away with revoking access from a TITLE to be played by any player, without major legal consequences.
So, I disagree with what you were implying, in principle (in other words, I *DO* think there's a real difference in risk). However, I also know that I don't want to buy hundreds or thousands of physical copies, and have that much more hoarding garbage in the house. I just wouldn't buy them (or only a very select few of them) if in physical form, both because of having to store them, plus the cost is usually at least double. So, for that reason, I'm on board with digital, if the price is right ($5 or less) and it's UHD/4K, especially if it's HDR. I am just accepting the risk, and hope that if enough people are also on board, then perhaps there WOULD be legal consequences to some company pulling the plug. I think MA titles have significantly less risk.
One other downside of physical -- there's also significant risk in those discs no longer being playable down the road. That's happened to me numerous times. I'd venture to guess at least 10% of physical I've purchased in the past has problems at least at some point on the disc. Perhaps if I tried it in several players, it would work in one of them, but at that point the frustration outweighs everything else.
(I do think it's actually possible that some title could be revoked, similar to a book being banned, but I think the risk of that is pretty close to zero in most countries.)
I understand you don't want to store physical media, but it's not really that much to store if you have a solid system. After ripping the brand new, unscratched disc to my PC, I promptly discard the Blu-Ray plastic case and place the disk in a CD binder. I don't even bother alphabetizing the discs. I never intend to even look at the disc again, although I retain the discs for legal reasons and "just in case".
I have over 400 discs stored in the size of a briefcase.
4K + Blu-ray + DVD + Digital Code for $10 (not sure why its a pre-order though)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0...0DER&psc=1
I meant that a lot of these titles have been featured as part of Amazon Prime's line-up that is included with membership. Watching is free then.
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I understand you don't want to store physical media, but it's not really that much to store if you have a solid system. After ripping the brand new, unscratched disc to my PC, I promptly discard the Blu-Ray plastic case and place the disk in a CD binder. I don't even bother alphabetizing the discs. I never intend to even look at the disc again, although I retain the discs for legal reasons and "just in case".
I have over 400 discs stored in the size of a briefcase.
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