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The Smartest House [thesmartesthouse.com] is having its Memorial Day sale on Z-wave home automation gizmos. Some good deals and sales on rarely-reduced niche products. Unlike previous sales where free shipping started at $99, this time it starts at $59. If you're going big, there're additional discounts at $500 (2%) and $1000 (3%).

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Hubitat HEC-7 home automation hub $70 [thesmartesthouse.com]

Zooz ZEN30 800LR double switch $26 [thesmartesthouse.com]

Zooz ZEN37 800LR wall remote $23 [thesmartesthouse.com]

Zooz ZEN73 800LR toggle switch $24 [thesmartesthouse.com]

Zooz ZEN53 DC motor controller $24.45 [thesmartesthouse.com]

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For those interested in the Hubitat C-7, there is a seller on ebay that has them for $20 (OBO) plus $10 shipping for new (Other). I don't think SD allows ebay links, but it is the first result when I searched showing 900+ sold so far.

I have a c7 that works well for me and was going to post this same deal from the smartest house, but saw the better deal on ebay.
If you're considering home assistant, I would just go home assistant. You don't need one of these hubs to do that you just need a Z-Wave dongle, which they also sell. I would not install it on a pi though unless you already have it. Buy used a micro PC off eBay like a Lenovo tiny.
The 800 series z-wave range extender which also reports power outages for $22.95 is an awesome deal! I bought several products from the smartest home and have always been happy with them. I will say that one time I wrote a review critical of a device and instead of posting it they sent me an email saying that they would have their tech support work with me but it wasn't a technical issue, it was just a poorly designed product. I still trust them for buying stuff though.

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cscamp20
05-22-2024 at 02:55 PM.
05-22-2024 at 02:55 PM.
Quote from SSteveTX :
For those interested in the Hubitat C-7, there is a seller on ebay that has them for $20 (OBO) plus $10 shipping for new (Other). I don't think SD allows ebay links, but it is the first result when I searched showing 900+ sold so far.

I have a c7 that works well for me and was going to post this same deal from the smartest house, but saw the better deal on ebay.
Thanks! Just got that. I've been wanting to switch from Smartthings to Hubitat. I agree with another user that don't do anything else with you current setup unless you have issue with it. I'll keep it as backup for now and slowly transition to Hubitat
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05-22-2024 at 03:00 PM.
05-22-2024 at 03:00 PM.
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Get a smart plug, set bios settings to turn on when ac power is restored. We do this and also set it to turn on at 8am every day as an extra layer if we're away.
He specifically said not wanting to figure out in WOL. Meaning he does not want to go into BIOS.
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05-22-2024 at 03:05 PM.
05-22-2024 at 03:05 PM.
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I've been running Hubitat for 6 or 7 years now. It is pretty good. Not great. The company has failed miserably at implementing a decent UI builder. They depend tremendously on the goodwill of people in the scene. People have come and gone. HD+ is an app that offers some of the best UI options for Android. If that app didn't exist, I would be miserable.

One of the problems I found with Zigbee and Zwave is that there is standard functionality that isn't standard. For example, if you use smart plugs, there's no easy intuitive interface to set a timer to have it turn on or off in x minutes. There's no standard that allows you to set what a plug does if it experiences power loss. Does it return to the state it was in? Does it turn off or on?

Some of the WiFi devices you can get are just packaged with good apps.

Expect to spend a lot of time tinkering to get a basic system running. Smart homes are not anywhere near ready for the general public.

I would love to go down the Home Assistant rabbit hole, but I just don't have the time to dedicate to it.
With Alexa you can now tell her to make a device to turn off after x amount of time or set a skill to turn on at x time of the day. No need to go in the app Alexa app or Kasa app and click 5 things just to automate something. Alexa has come a long way.
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05-22-2024 at 08:26 PM.
05-22-2024 at 08:26 PM.
Quote from cscamp20 :
With Alexa you can now tell her to make a device to turn off after x amount of time or set a skill to turn on at x time of the day. No need to go in the app Alexa app or Kasa app and click 5 things just to automate something. Alexa has come a long way.

I chose to go the Google route for an assistant in the house. One of the big selling points of Hubitat is that it can run locally so if your internet is down, things still work.
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05-23-2024 at 02:59 AM.
05-23-2024 at 02:59 AM.
All this talk of HA, but when a USB zwave dongle alone costs more than the hubitat c7 via ebay, what's the point? Especially given that you still need a raspberry pi or a box that's always on running docker or whatever.

What does HA bring to the table that hubitat doesn't already do? I've used hubitat for a while and haven't run into anything that just plain doesn't work, but then I'm not going nuts with it either.
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05-23-2024 at 06:34 AM.
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Quote from Rezer :
All this talk of HA, but when a USB zwave dongle alone costs more than the hubitat c7 via ebay, what's the point? Especially given that you still need a raspberry pi or a box that's always on running docker or whatever.

What does HA bring to the table that hubitat doesn't already do? I've used hubitat for a while and haven't run into anything that just plain doesn't work, but then I'm not going nuts with it either.
I believe there are two factors : 1. This hub is made with outdated chip (700 ) . 2. No Long Range ( so far ) implemented , while stick and many devices ( most likely Zooz ) are capable . I've noticed that HA just released Long Range ability. Long Range may be a game changer for z-wave due to the range, stability and new inclusion process, very cool BTW. Smilie

It is always something involved once we can see amazing price Smilie Most likely we can expect something outdated , which is crucial in technology. However, if anybody does not care about it , just go for it.
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05-23-2024 at 11:56 AM.
05-23-2024 at 11:56 AM.
Quote from mrtramplefoot :
If you're considering home assistant, I would just go home assistant. You don't need one of these hubs to do that you just need a Z-Wave dongle, which they also sell. I would not install it on a pi though unless you already have it. Buy used a micro PC off eBay like a Lenovo tiny.
Looks like the range of the C7 is 2600 ft while the USB dongle is 1000 ft line of site 250 ft indoors. I think that could make a difference depending on your situation I already have issues with some of my smart devices in my sheds, pool pump room, and RV. I'm also thinking the power requirements of this would be lower than running another pc.
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05-23-2024 at 12:02 PM.
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Quote from mitsured :
Looks like the range of the C7 is 2600 ft while the USB dongle is 1000 ft line of site 250 ft indoors. I think that could make a difference depending on your situation I already have issues with some of my smart devices in my sheds, pool pump room, and RV. I'm also thinking the power requirements of this would be lower than running another pc.
I mean there's no chance you're getting 2600 ft with a c7, plenty of people are questioning it's range https://community.hubitat.com/t/c7-range/98855

It's also not zwave lr, but you could get a zwave 800 lr stick for home assistant, which zooz states is up to a mile, which you're also not going to get, but should be further than the 700 in a c7.

you can run home assistant on very low power pcs as well.
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05-23-2024 at 12:15 PM.
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Quote from mrtramplefoot :
I mean there's no chance you're getting 2600 ft with a c7, plenty of people are questioning it's range https://community.hubitat.com/t/c7-range/98855

It's also not zwave lr, but you could get a zwave 800 lr stick for home assistant, which zooz states is up to a mile, which you're also not going to get, but should be further than the 700 in a c7.

you can run home assistant on very low power pcs as well.
O ya I wasn't expecting 2600 ft, 300 ft through a couple walls/windows would be the max I would need.
So something like this? https://www.thesmartesthouse.com/...tick-zst39

Is the move away from this device based on the software? or limitation of the hardware seeing it's a "one show pony?" asking because for $69 it would be the cheapest route if you don't need it to do anything else.
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05-23-2024 at 12:22 PM.
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O ya I wasn't expecting 2600 ft, 300 ft through a couple walls/windows would be the max I would need.
So something like this? https://www.thesmartesthouse.com/...tick-zst39 [thesmartesthouse.com]

Is the move away from this device based on the software? or limitation of the hardware seeing it's a "one show pony?" asking because for $69 it would be the cheapest route if you don't need it to do anything else.
Yeah, that dongle. The software will be much more limiting than something like home assistant and you can't upgrade the hardware to zwave 800 or w/e future version is released. Probably only like $10 more to buy that dongle, a pentium powered lenovo tiny on ebay with no hdd, plus a small ssd though. Just depends what you're looking for.
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O ya I wasn't expecting 2600 ft, 300 ft through a couple walls/windows would be the max I would need.
So something like this? https://www.thesmartesthouse.com/...tick-zst39

Is the move away from this device based on the software? or limitation of the hardware seeing it's a "one show pony?" asking because for $69 it would be the cheapest route if you don't need it to do anything else.
Not sure if the analogy will land but it's like building a PC vs buying a non-upgradable mini-system. It's part about the UI and part about the experience.

Hubitat C7 does have some device limitations that HA may have more elegant solutions for. That's a YMMV.
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If you go Home Assistant (which is recommended), you would not need the Hubitat C7 hub.
You would however need an z-wave USB stick (for the z-wave radio/antenna) to plug into the metal box where you install HA, and turn the HA box into your z-wave hub.

Smartest House website does sell those USB stick from Zooz.

Given the price tag of the Pi these days (plus storage and fan and case and power), you (could but) likely would not want to run HA on a Pi. Thin clients, SFF PCs, headless laptops, NAS, can all do virtual machines these days, and that's probably where you want to go.
Can you use the same NAS for your media server and the home assistant?
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Can you use the same NAS for your media server and the home assistant?
easily. via Docker or Proxmox
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Oh really? I'm running HomeAssistant on my boot drive SSD on my Windows server PC. Should I switch it to run off a HDD?
You're going to be fine. The write tolerances for an SSD are much much better than the write tolerances of a micro sd card.
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my 2 cents. I'm in IT. I use this same device (hubitat c7) and have been now managing a collection of zwave and zigbee devices for years. Light switches, lights, door locks. Probably the most in depth things I've done with it are:

Basement has 12 can lights spanning a great big basement. There's logically 3 areas (TV, Pingpong/pool and a kitchen). There are 3 switches for this. I replaced them with smart switches that control the individual regions instead of all off or all one. But multiple taps on the switches will control the other lights.

Also have routines where:
- porch lights come on at dusk and off again a few hours later
- all lights go out at 10pm downstairs because kids never turn them off
- kids bedroom lights go off around 8:30a M-F because they leave them on when they leave for school
- son's bedroom light comes on in the morning to attempt to wake him up
- daughter (3yo) has a night light with a smart bulb that turns green at 8am letting her know its ok to get out of bed and up for the day. It turns red at 8pm letting her know its bedtime.

I've been very happy with it.
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