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Pioneer 12,000 BTU 1-Ton 20.8 SEER2 Ductless Mini Split Air Conditioner Heat Pump Variable Speed DC Inverter+ System 110/120V @HD $720 $

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12,000 BTU 1-Ton 20.8 SEER2 Ductless Mini Split Air Conditioner Heat Pump Variable Speed DC Inverter+ System 110/120V

Seems like a decent deal. I been looking for one ever since I found someone here who would install it for me. Around here, only need AC for about a month so not looking for top efficiency.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Pione.../322260877
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12,000 BTU 1-Ton 20.8 SEER2 Ductless Mini Split Air Conditioner Heat Pump Variable Speed DC Inverter+ System 110/120V

Seems like a decent deal. I been looking for one ever since I found someone here who would install it for me. Around here, only need AC for about a month so not looking for top efficiency.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Pione.../322260877

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May 26, 2024
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Tatersalad
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I would recommend a 220v unit if you have the power available. It will run at about half the cost of a 110v unit. Requires the same romex (wire), just need a two pull breaker vs a single pull breaker.
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Tatersalad
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https://www.homedepot.com/p/Pione.../322260961

Here is a 220v that is a little higher seer rating for a cheaper price 699.
May 26, 2024
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wadofglue
May 26, 2024
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Quote from Tatersalad :
I would recommend a 220v unit if you have the power available. It will run at about half the cost of a 110v unit. Requires the same romex (wire), just need a two pull breaker vs a single pull breaker.
"Pole"
May 26, 2024
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Timaneo
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Quote from Tatersalad :
I would recommend a 220v unit if you have the power available. It will run at about half the cost of a 110v unit. Requires the same romex (wire), just need a two pull breaker vs a single pull breaker.
Run half the cost? Isn't the wattage the same?
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Quote from Timaneo :
Run half the cost? Isn't the wattage the same?
He's probably referring to the cost of the mini split. There's on e on here now priced under $500
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May 27, 2024
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May 27, 2024
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Quote from Tatersalad :
I would recommend a 220v unit if you have the power available. It will run at about half the cost of a 110v unit. Requires the same romex (wire), just need a two pull breaker vs a single pull breaker.
Do you mean half the amperage? No way it'll run half the cost.
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Quote from Tatersalad :
I would recommend a 220v unit if you have the power available. It will run at about half the cost of a 110v unit. Requires the same romex (wire), just need a two pull breaker vs a single pull breaker.

Last time I did these calculations, it was something around 3-5% max. 240V units are sometimes a little more efficient SEER as the most major contributor. Line losses due to resistance were just a couple watts! All in all, not worth eating up another breaker for extremely small gains in my situation.

If you have breaker space though by all means do it, it's better all around, just marginally.
Last edited by rwojo May 27, 2024 at 07:23 AM.
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I've been looking for a 12,000 BTU 110/120V, but I compare all of these to my current favorite which is the Della Optima Series $750 on Amazon 22 SEER2. 🤔

btw, the Pioneer shows $728 on Memorial Day
Last edited by protectedprofile May 27, 2024 at 07:40 AM.
May 27, 2024
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hajalie24
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Quote from mrgrod :
The 120V one posted by the OP is rated at 10.3A, the lower priced, but similar 220V model posted by another user above is rated at 4.8A. It's not anywhere near a 3-5% difference in cost to run.
10.3/(4.8*2) = 1.07. So it uses 7 percent more power
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May 27, 2024
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Esente
May 27, 2024
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Unless you find a licensed HVAC technician to install this for you (so the warranty is honored), would the disposable Costway unit at ~$447 with free shipping is a better deal? https://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/fp/958662

It is even Energy Star Certified. The 17000 BTU one is also $629.
May 27, 2024
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SiennaScene917
May 27, 2024
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Quote from Tatersalad :
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Pione.../322260961

Here is a 220v that is a little higher seer rating for a cheaper price 699.
interesting. It is now $708 with a HUGE Memorial Day discount! holiday discount is such a scam!
May 27, 2024
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mihanich
May 27, 2024
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Quote from mrgrod :
The 120V one posted by the OP is rated at 10.3A, the lower priced, but similar 220V model posted by another user above is rated at 4.8A. It's not anywhere near a 3-5% difference in cost to run.
Electric company bills you for power used, measured in watts. You get power by multiplying voltage and current.

In this case the 120V unit will use 120 * 10.3 = 1,236W. Meanwhile, the 220V unit will use 220 * 4.8 = 1,152W

So, in this example, 120V unit is (1,236 - 1152)*100/1,236 = 6.8% less efficient.
May 27, 2024
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gregdp33
May 27, 2024
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Quote from Tatersalad :
I would recommend a 220v unit if you have the power available. It will run at about half the cost of a 110v unit. Requires the same romex (wire), just need a two pull breaker vs a single pull breaker.
There is almost no difference in electric cost between 110 and 220. Where did you get your info? It's about the watts.
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DonV1962
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I am reading conflicting information on the tax credits for 2024. Anyone know what the SEER rating must be? I heard somewhere that the rating required were raised this year.

Here at the Energy Star site it states SEER2 > 16
https://www.energystar.gov/about/...heat-pumps

This states that the new standards must be 20 SEER.
https://www.richaircomfort.com/bl...dits-2024/

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