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32-Variety Open Seed Vault Fruit & Veggies Heirloom Seeds Starter Kit

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Jun 1, 2024 11:43 PM
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DinksGonnaDoinkJun 1, 2024 11:43 PM
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Quote from Moooshe :
It's pretty late in the season to start with seeds. Or is everyone buying these for the 2025 season?
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Jun 2, 2024 5:30 AM
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johnnyboy2014Jun 2, 2024 5:30 AM
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Quote from whilde :
I have to grow indoors in an apartment with virtually no natural light or on a north-facing 3-season patio - which I mostly dislike but comes in handy (sort of) in terms of seasonal considerations. Wink
Get a Hydroponic set up and grow indoors all year long. Aerogarden is the gold standard, but there are many cheaper brands.
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Jun 2, 2024 6:01 AM
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Mamedarling
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Quote from johnnyboy2014 :
Get a Hydroponic set up and grow indoors all year long. Aerogarden is the gold standard, but there are many cheaper brands.
Yes to hydroponics <3 If you happen to have any recs as far as cheaper brands go, I'd be so grateful! Totally ok, though, if you don't.

I've got a few Aerogardens going right now (2 Harvests - one slim, one regular, neither "elite" - a Sprout, and a Farm 12XL.) They're wonderful, but I need more slots than the Farm 12XL has to accommodate the larger/taller fruits and vegetables I eat most often. The Aerogardens with the right height/light capacities - i.e., the Farms and Bounty Elites - are just so expensive, even second hand. (Also, there was a Reddit post in the Aerogarden channel a week or so ago that that seems to indicate that the 24XL's been discontinued, which will likely make scoring one second-hand even more spendy.)

The only larger capacity alternatives to Aerogarden with consistently positive reviews that I've been able to find so far - like the Rise, Gardyn iHarvest - are even more expensive. As much as I want to be the kind of person who can DIY their own system and make it look ok in their living room, I don't see this happening in the near future.

So yeah, whatever you've got time to share would be amazing. Thanks for replying, too, btw!
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Jun 2, 2024 6:12 AM
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Mamedarling
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Quote from nyospe :
I was mistaken, this is the collection I purchased: Black Duck Brand 50 Packs Assorted Heirloom Vegetable Seeds 20+ Varieties All Seeds are Heirloom, 100% Non-GMO https://a.co/d/1k3xeEC
Thanks so much for the detailed post. I keep wondering what the germination rates and outcomes are like for kits like these - and, sadly, have reached a stage in my shopping life where I basically ignore amazon reviews by default, haha.

50 seed packets for $13 is an incredible deal - especially if you've got the space to experiment/can deal if the seeds don't germinate or produce something you didn't expect. (I also suspect that seed packets from any of these budget kits are likely to have similar issues.)
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TyrossJun 2, 2024 6:16 AM
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Quote from DinksGonnaDoink :
Nah, your nanny state loves to nanny.
Sad, but very true.
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nyospeJun 2, 2024 7:33 AM
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Quote from whilde :
Thanks so much for the detailed post. I keep wondering what the germination rates and outcomes are like for kits like these - and, sadly, have reached a stage in my shopping life where I basically ignore amazon reviews by default, haha.

50 seed packets for $13 is an incredible deal - especially if you've got the space to experiment/can deal if the seeds don't germinate or produce something you didn't expect. (I also suspect that seed packets from any of these budget kits are likely to have similar issues.)
The 43/$15 kit was the same brand. As far as I can tell, it's just seeds from local suppliers with their label slapped on the packet, possibly originally labeled for the previous year. Nothing heirloom about it, but not completely phony like the Chinese companies that sell photoshopped rainbow strawberry seeds.
Jun 2, 2024 4:30 PM
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CommonSaltJun 2, 2024 4:30 PM
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Per the page:"
1. Tomato Beef Steak ≈ 180 seeds
2. Eggplant Black Beauty ≈ 80 seeds
3. Bean Tendergreen Green Bean ≈ 20 seeds
4. Zucchini Black Beauty ≈ 25 seeds
5. Lettuce Buttercrunch Butterhead ≈ 2280 seeds
6. Lettuce Ruby Leaf ≈ 2280 seeds
7. Lettuce Oakleaf ≈ 2280 seeds
8. Brussels Sprouts Long Island ≈ 230 seeds
9. Bell Pepper California Wonder ≈ 40 seeds
10. Radish Cherry Belle ≈ 180 seeds
11. Okra Clemson Spineless ≈ 50 seeds
12. Beet Detroit Dark Red ≈ 180 seeds
13. Onion Evergreen Bunching ≈ 200 seeds
14. Cabbage Golden Acre ≈ 280 seeds
15. Corn Golden Bantam ≈ 45 seeds
16. Cantaloupe Hales Best Jumbo ≈ 20 seeds
17. Watermelon Sugar Baby ≈ 30 seeds
18. Kale Premier ≈ 280 seeds
19. Lima Henderson ≈ 15 seeds
20. Swiss Chard Giant Fordhook ≈ 90 seeds
21. Cucumber Marketmore ≈ 40 seeds
22. Spinach Bloomsdale ≈ 130 seeds
23. Carrot Scarlet Nantes ≈ 1750 seeds
24. Turnip Purple Top ≈ 430 seeds
25. Pumpkin Sugar Pie ≈ 15 seeds
26. Cauliflower Snowball Y ≈ 280 seeds
27. Pea Sugar Daddy ≈ 25 seeds
28. Broccoli Waltham ≈ 330 seeds
29. Winter Squash Waltham Butternut ≈ 25 seeds
30. Sunflower Mammoth ≈ 20 seeds
31. Parsnips All American ≈ 250 seeds
32. Celery Tall Utah Improved ≈ 3000 seeds"

So if you look, most of your seeds are actually celery, carrot, and butterhead lettuce. And for anyone who hasn't planted those, you need like....50-100 seeds for more celery, lettuce, and carrots than you can reasonably eat before they go bad.

Also, every one of these varieties is a very common/popular/old variety, so they're available nearly anywhere. I have bought probably half of the items on the list at Dollar Tree this week, and their packets are 4/$1 for similar amounts.

So this is a good deal if you want it to be, or are unable to source seeds anywhere else. But if you have any access to seeds locally at literally any store, you can probably find the exact varieties listed here for cheaper.

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Jun 2, 2024 7:19 PM
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jelenapJun 2, 2024 7:19 PM
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For those whining about "nanny states": the rules are in place to protect your state's agriculture and environment. This is the best plain language explanation I could find: https://www.spokesman.com/stories...nt-to-pro/
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Quote from jelenap :
For those whining about "nanny states": the rules are in place to protect your state's agriculture and environment. This is the best plain language explanation I could find: https://www.spokesman.com/stories...nt-to-pro/ [spokesman.com]
It's easier to just complain about the booyeyman.
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Mr. SparklesJun 3, 2024 1:40 PM
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Quote from jelenap :
For those whining about "nanny states": the rules are in place to protect your state's agriculture and environment. This is the best plain language explanation I could find: https://www.spokesman.com/stories...nt-to-pro/
Gotta protect that sweet sweet corn crop no one wants but they get paid for anyhow and use it to make polluting ethanol with.

Go agriculture policy!
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"Non-GMO"

I've got bad news for you, literally everything you eat is GMO. Unless you're eating the food originally cultivated by our ancestors tens of thousands of years ago, they've been genetically modified through cross/selective breeding. That's genetically modifying.
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PapaSpoofJun 3, 2024 6:40 PM
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Quote from KypMadak :
"Non-GMO"

I've got bad news for you, literally everything you eat is GMO. Unless you're eating the food originally cultivated by our ancestors tens of thousands of years ago, they've been genetically modified through cross/selective breeding. That's genetically modifying.
GMO is not the same as Selective Breeding.

GMO would be those fancy new purple tomatoes that are crossed with snapdragon DNA.

Selective Breeding is your Roma, Early Girl, Celebrity, etc tomatoes.

There is a difference. The GMO was given a desired trait from another species/organism NOT through breeding. Roma was selectively bred to be a more paste like tomato, cherry tomatoes were bred to be numerous and small, slicers like celebrity were bred to give you a nice firm slice of a tomato, etc.
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VaultTecJun 3, 2024 7:06 PM
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GMO does't mean what you think it means! GMO is taking some DNA from who knows what and putting that DNA onto the plant to make it for example Roundup resistant. or to make the plant produce it's own toxins that kill bugs are a couple common GMO modifications. A plant that produces its own pesticides and those pesticides get passed on to you when you eat it, fun fun.
But from a non health perspective GMO plants often don't produce seeds that make a similar plant to the parent plants so for gardening non GMO/ heirloom means once planted you can harvest seeds from this crop to sew next years garden and next years crop will look like this years crop!

Selective breeding is more like if we you take a winning racehorse and breed it with another winning racehorse you are probably going to get a fast racehorse out of that union. GMO is more like taking some cheetah DNA and gene splicing it with race horse to make it faster! more like the Island of Dr. Moreau !
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Jun 4, 2024 10:17 AM
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Quote from CommonSalt :
Per the page:"
1. Tomato Beef Steak ≈ 180 seeds
2. Eggplant Black Beauty ≈ 80 seeds
3. Bean Tendergreen Green Bean ≈ 20 seeds
4. Zucchini Black Beauty ≈ 25 seeds
5. Lettuce Buttercrunch Butterhead ≈ 2280 seeds
6. Lettuce Ruby Leaf ≈ 2280 seeds
7. Lettuce Oakleaf ≈ 2280 seeds
8. Brussels Sprouts Long Island ≈ 230 seeds
9. Bell Pepper California Wonder ≈ 40 seeds
10. Radish Cherry Belle ≈ 180 seeds
11. Okra Clemson Spineless ≈ 50 seeds
12. Beet Detroit Dark Red ≈ 180 seeds
13. Onion Evergreen Bunching ≈ 200 seeds
14. Cabbage Golden Acre ≈ 280 seeds
15. Corn Golden Bantam ≈ 45 seeds
16. Cantaloupe Hales Best Jumbo ≈ 20 seeds
17. Watermelon Sugar Baby ≈ 30 seeds
18. Kale Premier ≈ 280 seeds
19. Lima Henderson ≈ 15 seeds
20. Swiss Chard Giant Fordhook ≈ 90 seeds
21. Cucumber Marketmore ≈ 40 seeds
22. Spinach Bloomsdale ≈ 130 seeds
23. Carrot Scarlet Nantes ≈ 1750 seeds
24. Turnip Purple Top ≈ 430 seeds
25. Pumpkin Sugar Pie ≈ 15 seeds
26. Cauliflower Snowball Y ≈ 280 seeds
27. Pea Sugar Daddy ≈ 25 seeds
28. Broccoli Waltham ≈ 330 seeds
29. Winter Squash Waltham Butternut ≈ 25 seeds
30. Sunflower Mammoth ≈ 20 seeds
31. Parsnips All American ≈ 250 seeds
32. Celery Tall Utah Improved ≈ 3000 seeds"

So if you look, most of your seeds are actually celery, carrot, and butterhead lettuce. And for anyone who hasn't planted those, you need like....50-100 seeds for more celery, lettuce, and carrots than you can reasonably eat before they go bad.

Also, every one of these varieties is a very common/popular/old variety, so they're available nearly anywhere. I have bought probably half of the items on the list at Dollar Tree this week, and their packets are 4/$1 for similar amounts.

So this is a good deal if you want it to be, or are unable to source seeds anywhere else. But if you have any access to seeds locally at literally any store, you can probably find the exact varieties listed here for cheaper.
Yeah, this is super helpful. I think it's the "heirloom" part that snagged me when I first saw it. What I really need are dwarf varieties of a lot of these, since I'm growing indoors, so have had to look elsewhere for a lot of the things I was interested in when I stumbled upon this kit.

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Jun 5, 2024 2:43 PM
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blackdak318Jun 5, 2024 2:43 PM
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If you are near a Menards they have Valley Greene seed packets on sale for only 10 cents per packet each spring. Additionally, Dollar Tree has good seeds that the sell for 25 cents per packet each spring as well. I would recommend both of those over this.

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