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Pongo PSN2200 Portable Power Station, 2000Wh LiFePO4 Battery $500

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Looks like the same one as Ideaplay sn2200 that gets posted a lot. https://forums.woot.com/t/ideapla...wh/1729318

Only Black is available (gray is sold out)

High-Performance Generator - Pongo portable power station features 2000Wh large capacity, 2200W rated watts high power and 16 power outlets. This portable AC power generators are designed to meet 99% of your power needs in running most appliances - hair dryers, microwave, refrigerators, coffee makers, air conditioners, etc.
Reliable Outdoor Power Source - This power generator for outdoor camping comes with a built-in 25A XT60 outlet especially designed for the RV crowds. Also, the AC/USB-A/Car Port/PD100 allows you to charge any devices faster and simultaneity
Faster Recharging Speed - This portable solar generator draws 1100W AC power from wall outlet to recharge from 0-100% in 2 hours. Supports max 500W solar energy to fully recharge in 4 hours. Combing two charging methods to recharge from 0-80% less than 1 hour
Safety First - The Pongo battery generator uses the LiFePO4 lithium-ion battery, which is more performant, safer and longer-lasting which can be recharged over 3000 times. Also, this power generator with UL2743 certified which is protected against short-circuit, over-voltage, over-current, over-charging, overload high temperature and more
What's in Box - 1* SN 2200 Portable Power Station, 1* Car Charging Cable, 1* AC Charging Cable, 1* Solar Panel Parallel Adapter (Cable), 1* SN2200 User Manual, 1* Maintenance Card
Shipping Note: Shipping to Alaska, Hawaii, PO Boxes, and APO addresses is not available for this item
Warranty: 90 Day Woot Limited Warranty
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Discussion:
https://forums.woot.com/t/pongo-p...wh/1729789

Looks like the same one as Ideaplay sn2200 that gets posted a lot. https://forums.woot.com/t/ideapla...wh/1729318

Only Black is available (gray is sold out)

High-Performance Generator - Pongo portable power station features 2000Wh large capacity, 2200W rated watts high power and 16 power outlets. This portable AC power generators are designed to meet 99% of your power needs in running most appliances - hair dryers, microwave, refrigerators, coffee makers, air conditioners, etc.
Reliable Outdoor Power Source - This power generator for outdoor camping comes with a built-in 25A XT60 outlet especially designed for the RV crowds. Also, the AC/USB-A/Car Port/PD100 allows you to charge any devices faster and simultaneity
Faster Recharging Speed - This portable solar generator draws 1100W AC power from wall outlet to recharge from 0-100% in 2 hours. Supports max 500W solar energy to fully recharge in 4 hours. Combing two charging methods to recharge from 0-80% less than 1 hour
Safety First - The Pongo battery generator uses the LiFePO4 lithium-ion battery, which is more performant, safer and longer-lasting which can be recharged over 3000 times. Also, this power generator with UL2743 certified which is protected against short-circuit, over-voltage, over-current, over-charging, overload high temperature and more
What's in Box - 1* SN 2200 Portable Power Station, 1* Car Charging Cable, 1* AC Charging Cable, 1* Solar Panel Parallel Adapter (Cable), 1* SN2200 User Manual, 1* Maintenance Card
Shipping Note: Shipping to Alaska, Hawaii, PO Boxes, and APO addresses is not available for this item
Warranty: 90 Day Woot Limited Warranty

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Jun 23, 2024
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Looks identical to the ideaplay brand model they had recently. I bought one of those and it's been good so far but haven't really loaded it a lot yet
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C17chief
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What is the voltage range for the solar input?
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Specifications

USB Output 2 x DC5521 36W, 1 x Cigar Port 120W, 1 x XT60 Port 300W
Operating temperature 14~104°F (-10~40℃)
Charge temperature 32~104°F(0~40℃)
Dimensions 15.5x11x13inch
Weight 48.5lb
Colar Type Graphite Black, Space Gray
Capacity 2000Wh
Battery Type LiFePO4 (3000+ Cycles to 80%)
AC Input 100-120V 50Hz/60Hz 1100W Max
Solar Input 11.5-50V/20A 500W max
AC Output 100-120V 50/60Hz Pure Sine Wave 2200W Rated Power
DC Output 2 x DC5521 36W, 1 x Cigar Port 120W, 1 x XT60 Port 300W

Quote from C17chief :
What is the voltage range for the solar input?
Fairly low at 50V, but probably pretty common at this price point. A pair of 250W panels paralleled together will max it out.
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Quote from snowdrifter :
Specifications

USB Output 2 x DC5521 36W, 1 x Cigar Port 120W, 1 x XT60 Port 300W
Operating temperature 14~104°F (-10~40℃)
Charge temperature 32~104°F(0~40℃)
Dimensions 15.5x11x13inch
Weight 48.5lb
Colar Type Graphite Black, Space Gray
Capacity 2000Wh
Battery Type LiFePO4 (3000+ Cycles to 80%)
AC Input 100-120V 50Hz/60Hz 1100W Max
Solar Input 11.5-50V/20A 500W max
AC Output 100-120V 50/60Hz Pure Sine Wave 2200W Rated Power
DC Output 2 x DC5521 36W, 1 x Cigar Port 120W, 1 x XT60 Port 300W



Fairly low at 50V, but probably pretty common at this price point. A pair of 250W panels paralleled together will max it out.
Yup def limit things a bit. Expected for the price, but with the higher battery capacity you never really know. I have a few 300w 40v panels. Even 1 of those is too much for some of the lower capacity cheap ones which is why I always look/ask. At least a couple paralleled will work with this it looks like.
Jun 23, 2024
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tommyimages
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500W solar charging limit is pretty lame for a 2kwh unit
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AndrewK79
Jun 23, 2024
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Quote from tommyimages :
500W solar charging limit is pretty lame for a 2kwh unit
But not for a $500 unit Big Grin

IMO, it seems like something you'd use for camping/emergency backup, and not necessarily running your entire house on daily.

For $500, I'd be tempted to gamble, even though I know the warranty would likely be worth the paper it's printed on.
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My 5000Wh oukitel, which by all indications are made at the same factory, has been very good a UPS backup

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Quote from AndrewK79 :
But not for a $500 unit

IMO, it seems like something you'd use for camping/emergency backup, and not necessarily running your entire house on daily.

For $500, I'd be tempted to gamble, even though I know the warranty would likely be worth the paper it's printed on.
Was just about to come into this deal to post this same thing.
The SUPER cheap Lifepo4 batteries will very likely not have ANY sort of warranty.

no name brand especially.

***That said --- don't fully discharge.*** That's how I almost killed TWO of my no name brand lifepo4 devices. 1 definitely died. The other one I got lucky and was able to revive by attempting to recharge it twice a month using different means (AC and solar) over a span of 3 months.

Shame I don't have extra disposable income at the moment. 500 bucks for a 2000 kwh is cheap enough to risk as a backup option for hurricane season......

Good luck to any buyers willing to gamble, even more good luck if someone tries to fully drain to test the system's durability lol



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How did I kill my other no name brand battery? Solar charge while charging a Ryobi power tool battery. Draw was greater than solar charge (wasn't paying attention at the time), device fully drained and wouldn't turn on for a few weeks.

#2: Having learned from the first paper weight, I kept mostly good tabs on a pecron 614Wh device.
Lost track of time one day and fully drained 614wh device using AC adapter (was plugged into laptop)

No amount of recharges via solar or AC adapter would recover device.
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Quote from CrazyGoat :
My 5000Wh oukitel, which by all indications are made at the same factory, has been very good a UPS backup
Yes, Oukitel was the first to come out with this unit and a slew of manu. rebranded it.
It's the Oukitel p2001. Oukitel just came out with a P2001 Plus(which is selling at a pretty good price).
FFpower also had the same exact unit.

I've followed every power on SD and this is the cheapest for a 2000w/2000wh at $500.
Previously, it was $599.
The great point is this power station can just about run everything for you for $500.
Take this with you camping and you're set.
Charging from an outlet is fast at 1100w and you just need a cord. NO power brick.

The weak point is that the solar input is only 12v-48v but that still let you series 2 panels together.
The AC usable capacity is on the low side, Around 80% which is about 1600wh of 2000wh.
The worst thing about buying this is after you get, you're pretty much on your own.
Don't expect to get any kind of support from a no name brand. They are probably getting rid of inventories.

Personally, would I take a chance on the machine at $500 ?
Right now, probably not but it doesn't mean you shouldn't get one.
I would probably spend more for the Oukitel p2001 Plus.
It's $799 with a free portable 100w panel and no tax.
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Quote from coffeeduck :
Was just about to come into this deal to post this same thing.
The SUPER cheap Lifepo4 batteries will very likely not have ANY sort of warranty.

no name brand especially.

***That said --- don't fully discharge.*** That's how I almost killed TWO of my no name brand lifepo4 devices. 1 definitely died. The other one I got lucky and was able to revive by attempting to recharge it twice a month using different means (AC and solar) over a span of 3 months.

Shame I don't have extra disposable income at the moment. 500 bucks for a 2000 kwh is cheap enough to risk as a backup option for hurricane season......

Good luck to any buyers willing to gamble, even more good luck if someone tries to fully drain to test the system's durability lol



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How did I kill my other no name brand battery? Solar charge while charging a Ryobi power tool battery. Draw was greater than solar charge (wasn't paying attention at the time), device fully drained and wouldn't turn on for a few weeks.

#2: Having learned from the first paper weight, I kept mostly good tabs on a pecron 614Wh device.
Lost track of time one day and fully drained 614wh device using AC adapter (was plugged into laptop)

No amount of recharges via solar or AC adapter would recover device.
"The SUPER cheap Lifepo4 batteries will very likely not have ANY sort of warranty"

What brands use quality lifepo4 batteries?
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Quote from coffeeduck :
Was just about to come into this deal to post this same thing.
The SUPER cheap Lifepo4 batteries will very likely not have ANY sort of warranty.

no name brand especially.

***That said --- don't fully discharge.*** That's how I almost killed TWO of my no name brand lifepo4 devices. 1 definitely died. The other one I got lucky and was able to revive by attempting to recharge it twice a month using different means (AC and solar) over a span of 3 months.

Shame I don't have extra disposable income at the moment. 500 bucks for a 2000 kwh is cheap enough to risk as a backup option for hurricane season......

Good luck to any buyers willing to gamble, even more good luck if someone tries to fully drain to test the system's durability lol



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How did I kill my other no name brand battery? Solar charge while charging a Ryobi power tool battery. Draw was greater than solar charge (wasn't paying attention at the time), device fully drained and wouldn't turn on for a few weeks.

#2: Having learned from the first paper weight, I kept mostly good tabs on a pecron 614Wh device.
Lost track of time one day and fully drained 614wh device using AC adapter (was plugged into laptop)

No amount of recharges via solar or AC adapter would recover device.
I have a Pecron E600 too and I've been draining this sucker to zero on a daily basis and I mean every day.
I have an extra panels that I use to charge the Pecron and I drain it to my main system.
I think you just got some bad units. Lifepo4 batteries are mean to be drain to zero.
I have plenty of Lifepo4 power stations and I drain all down to zero with no issue.
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superslickz
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Quote from coffeeduck :
Was just about to come into this deal to post this same thing.
The SUPER cheap Lifepo4 batteries will very likely not have ANY sort of warranty.

no name brand especially.

***That said --- don't fully discharge.*** That's how I almost killed TWO of my no name brand lifepo4 devices. 1 definitely died. The other one I got lucky and was able to revive by attempting to recharge it twice a month using different means (AC and solar) over a span of 3 months.

Shame I don't have extra disposable income at the moment. 500 bucks for a 2000 kwh is cheap enough to risk as a backup option for hurricane season......

Good luck to any buyers willing to gamble, even more good luck if someone tries to fully drain to test the system's durability lol



Unasked for notes:
How did I kill my other no name brand battery? Solar charge while charging a Ryobi power tool battery. Draw was greater than solar charge (wasn't paying attention at the time), device fully drained and wouldn't turn on for a few weeks.

#2: Having learned from the first paper weight, I kept mostly good tabs on a pecron 614Wh device.
Lost track of time one day and fully drained 614wh device using AC adapter (was plugged into laptop)

No amount of recharges via solar or AC adapter would recover device.
Is it possible to set this thing to cut out at 10% battery?
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Quote from golfreak :
I have a Pecron E600 too and I've been draining this sucker to zero on a daily basis and I mean every day.
I have an extra panels that I use to charge the Pecron and I drain it to my main system.
I think you just got some bad units. Lifepo4 batteries are mean to be drain to zero.
I have plenty of Lifepo4 power stations and I drain all down to zero with no issue.
Everyone's experiences vary. I had the drain issue on two separate companies' battery.
HOWEVER - most people don't have lots of disposable income, so I'm just throwing caution out there. No sweat off my back if people believe you over me. It's not my money on the line lol

Quote from SDRebel :
"The SUPER cheap Lifepo4 batteries will very likely not have ANY sort of warranty"

What brands use quality lifepo4 batteries?
It's hard to say without just outright lying. I think what you're paying for (when you do pay more money for these batteries) is for "stupid proofing" --- I think at the end of the day, if all companies truly are putting in lifepo4 batteries, the only difference is the controller that allows or stops charging/discharging. So far ECOFLOW is the only brand that is stupid proof - I've done full drains, full charge/discharge (while on solar charging), even when it drains to zero, I can still turn it on.

No name brands don't turn on until you attempt to charge, and if you're unlucky like in my case, they don't turn back on at all.



Quote from superslickz :
Is it possible to set this thing to cut out at 10% battery?
I don't know or have used their items. My warning is general in nature. I still stand by this deal, since the pricing per kw is AMAZING. All of my past purchases were 50cents/wh. This is like 25c/wh. I honestly would bite if it weren't for my financial issues right now. Great backup to my backup generator lol.

The issue here is the fact that companies aren't upholding their promises these days is concerning.

Completely unrelated situation - I had an issue with a eufy product. Security camera, not even battery related. Contacted support - 1st reply within an hour. After I replied with answers to their questions? Much slower response times. Ok, fine, whatever. It's really expensive to keep fast response times up. Then when I asked about something that would cost money or a return? Ghosting. The only thing I've learned from these experiences from the past year? Unless you want to deal with chargebacks, take appropriate precautions. My entire 15+ years of shopping online - I lost one chargeback. So it's not bulletproof. Definitely in buyer's favor but not 100% guaranteed either......

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Quote from coffeeduck :
Everyone's experiences vary. I had the drain issue on two separate companies' battery.
HOWEVER - most people don't have lots of disposable income, so I'm just throwing caution out there. No sweat off my back if people believe you over me. It's not my money on the line lol

I have like 10 power stations man.
They are meant to drain to 0%.
If they weren't meant to be drain to 0%, they would have it stop at 5% or something.
You just got bad units.

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Quote from SDRebel :
"The SUPER cheap Lifepo4 batteries will very likely not have ANY sort of warranty"

What brands use quality lifepo4 batteries?
It's not the cells themselves it's the lack of manufacturer warranty support. You've got 90 days from woot, which isn't the greatest, and nothing after. The electronics are the most likely thing to fail.

$500 is tempting and great if it works out. But you've also got that risk of a $500 paperweight.

If you do buy, you'd better run the heck out of in those 90 days.

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