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Yale Push Button Deadbolt Lock with Z-Wave $72 + Free Shipping

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Dailysale.com [dailysale.com] has Yale Push Button Deadbolt Lock with Z-Wave on sale for $79.99 - $7 w/ code SD29604 = $72. Free Shipping.

Features:
  • Easy to Use, Install, & Program
  • Programmable up to 25 users
  • Weather resistant durable buttons
  • Illuminated keypad, easy to use at night or in low light
  • ZWave Capability
  • Model: YRD110-ZW-US
  • UPC: 81023843850
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Dailysale.com [dailysale.com] has Yale Push Button Deadbolt Lock with Z-Wave on sale for $79.99 - $7 w/ code SD29604 = $72. Free Shipping.

Features:
  • Easy to Use, Install, & Program
  • Programmable up to 25 users
  • Weather resistant durable buttons
  • Illuminated keypad, easy to use at night or in low light
  • ZWave Capability
  • Model: YRD110-ZW-US
  • UPC: 81023843850

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Has anyone used this website before? Is it legit?
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Quote from hiralv :
Has anyone used this website before? Is it legit?

It's legit. A lot of these "sale websites" are the same company just different names. Daily "Insert Word". Some are drop shippers and some are shipping from a centralized warehouse.
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Does anyone know if this works with Ring?
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I'm trying to figure out if it ships with the old ZW module that is S0 encryption or the newer one that supports S2 pairing. Anyone able to figure that out?
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YRD 110 is a VERY old (circa 2014) model zwave deadbolt that is a 300 series zwave model. https://products.z-wavealliance.o...ucts/1039/

It does not offer zwave plus and only has S0 security that has known vulnerabilities.

This is a terrible price for the YRD110 model.
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Quote from bullfrog23414 :
I'm trying to figure out if it ships with the old ZW module that is S0 encryption or the newer one that supports S2 pairing. Anyone able to figure that out?

S0 only. The only module that supports S2 is the 700 series module and it will not work in these locks. Yale doesn't even sell that module directly to consumers you have to buy it on eBay. These only support the legacy 300 series, non zwave plus, module.
Last edited by flipontheradio July 15, 2024 at 09:38 AM.
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Quote from flipontheradio :
YRD 110 is a VERY old (circa 2014) model zwave deadbolt that is a 300 series zwave model. https://products.z-wavealliance.o...ucts/1039/

It does not offer zwave plus and only has S0 security that has known vulnerabilities.

This is a terrible price for the YRD110 model.
As far as I am aware, the only vulnerability in S0 that is fixed with S2 security is during the pairing process. There's a vulnerability if an attacker is there when you are initially pairing the device. But once it has been paired, the security is just as strong with S0 as it is with S2.

A noticeable vulnerability, but not likely one you have to worry about. Someone would have to be actively targeting you while you are in the brief window of installing and pairing.
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As far as I am aware, the only vulnerability in S0 that is fixed with S2 security is during the pairing process. There's a vulnerability if an attacker is there when you are initially pairing the device. But once it has been paired, the security is just as strong with S0 as it is with S2.

A noticeable vulnerability, but not likely one you have to worry about. Someone would have to be actively targeting you while you are in the brief window of installing and pairing.
The most severe vulernability is CVE-2020-9057 https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cve...-2020-9057 which is related to the traffic being unencrypted and is not related to pairing. The full paper can be found here https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9663293
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Quote from hiralv :
Does anyone know if this works with Ring?

Yes it's supported. This is a good price.

It will eat batteries.
Last edited by AudioMike July 15, 2024 at 05:35 PM.
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Maybe you'll get lucky that it will come DOA and support will send you out a replacement but the new model.....this happened to me with a similar deal from Woot.

If it does, they will want you to buy the zwave module ($90) yourself so make sure to ask them to make an exception and include it.
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Quote from flipontheradio :
YRD 110 is a VERY old (circa 2014) model zwave deadbolt that is a 300 series zwave model. https://products.z-wavealliance.o...ucts/1039/

It does not offer zwave plus and only has S0 security that has known vulnerabilities.

This is a terrible price for the YRD110 model.
I don't believe this lock is a 300 series. That was prior to any encryption methods, including s0. I have this specific lock, and it has s0 security. S2 security came out during the 500 series era, I think, but it was optional.

I could be wrong, and it is a 300 series device. But even still, it does have S0 security.

Edit - I was incorrect, and this is a 300 series device. But it does have encryption with S0 security.
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Quote from flipontheradio :
The most severe vulernability is CVE-2020-9057 https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cve...-2020-9057 which is related to the traffic being unencrypted and is not related to pairing. The full paper can be found here https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9663293
That mentions 100-300 unencrypted devices, which doesn't apply to this device. It is specifically pointing out unencrypted communications.

S0 security is encrypted, as is S2. As mentioned in the full paper you linked (if you do a text search on s0), s0 security has the vulnerability I mentioned of possibly capturing the shared key during inclusion, but the rest of the attacks mentioned are in relation to fully unencrypted devices that lack even s0 security.
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Quote from dymutaos :
That mentions the 100-300 series products, which I don't believe applies to this lock. And it is specifically pointing out unencrypted communications. S0 security is also encrypted, as is S2. As mentioned in the full paper you linked (if you do a text search on s0), s0 security has the vulnerability I mentioned of possibly capturing the shared key during inclusion, but the rest of the attacks mentioned are in relation to fully unencrypted devices that lack even s0 security.
Per the zwave alliance this has the zm3102 zwave module in it https://products.z-wavealliance.o.../embedpics, which is a 300 series chip per the spec sheet https://media.digikey.com/pdf/Dat...Z-Wave.pdf.

Also the zwave alliance lists this as NOT being zwave plus https://products.z-wavealliance.o...ucts/1039/ and ALL 500 series chips MUST be "plus" certified. https://www.silabs.com/wireless/z...es-modules

Capturing the key during inclusion was known as the z"shave" vulnerability and involves dropping S2 down to S0 during inclusion which this module is not capable of.

The 500 series module that yale sells ALSO does not support S2 security, source: I bought it and you can read the reviews.

Did I miss any of your points?

Ah yes, and per the CVE bulletin, 300 series DO NOT SUPPORT ENCYPTION CVE-2020-9057 https://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/1...exhaustion.
Z-Wave devices based on Silicon Labs 100, 200, and 300 series chipsets do not support encryption.
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Quote from flipontheradio :
Per the zwave alliance this has the zm3102 zwave module in it https://products.z-wavealliance.o.../embedpics [z-wavealliance.org], which is a 300 series chip per the spec sheet https://media.digikey.com/pdf/Dat...Z-Wave.pdf [digikey.com].

Also the zwave alliance lists this as NOT being zwave plus https://products.z-wavealliance.o...ucts/1039/ [z-wavealliance.org] and ALL 500 series chips MUST be "plus" certified. https://www.silabs.com/wireless/z...es-modules [silabs.com]

Capturing the key during inclusion was known as the z"shave" vulnerability and involves dropping S2 down to S0 during inclusion which this module is not capable of.

The 500 series module that yale sells ALSO does not support S2 security, source: I bought it and you can read the reviews.

Did I miss any of your points?

Ah yes, and per the CVE bulletin, 300 series DO NOT SUPPORT ENCYPTION CVE-2020-9057 https://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/1...exhaustion [cert.org].
Z-Wave devices based on Silicon Labs 100, 200, and 300 series chipsets do not support encryption.
You're right, it is a 300 series device, not a 500 like I thought. I was remembering incorrectly, and more research showed you were correct.

However, you are incorrect in stating it does not support encryption. This device has S0 security. My point on S0 security being encrypted is still accurate. Downgrading S2 to S0 during inclusion is a possibility for some newer devices that support S2, so they can be more compatible (if your zwave controller isn't new enough to support S2). But while that opens you back up to the vulnerability of having your shared key getting captured by an attacker during the window of inclusion, it is not the same as a zwave device with no encryption at all.
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Quote from dymutaos :
You're right, it is a 300 series device, not a 500 like I thought. I was remembering incorrectly, and more research showed you were correct.

However, you are incorrect in stating it does not support encryption. My point on S0 security being encrypted is still accurate. Downgrading S2 to S0 during inclusion is a possibility for some devices that support S2, so they can be more compatible (if your zwave controller isn't new enough to support S2). But while that opens you back up to the vulnerability of having your shared key getting captured by an attacker during the window of inclusion, it is not the same as a zwave device with no encryption at all.
You keep mistaking the word "security" that is associated with S0 as meaning "encryption", it does not. Again, per the CVE bulletin I posted above

CVE-2020-9057
Z-Wave devices based on Silicon Labs 100, 200, and 300 series chipsets do not support encryption.

If you want to add a hot piece of legacy garbage to your zwave network then please do. Slickdeals will HAPPILY take their comission. I had 2 of the key lock version of this. It EATS batteries and brought my network to a standstill with repeated timeouts and retrys. That was with smartthings, hubitat, and home assistant (On Nortek 500, Zooz 700, and 800 usb sticks).

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