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Onkyo TX-RZ70 11.2-Channel AV Receiver
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Various Retailers have Onkyo TX-RZ70 11.2-Channel AV Receiver for $1999. Shipping is free.
Thanks to community members turnne and cmhrva [discuss] for sharing this deal.
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Thanks to community members turnne and cmhrva [discuss] for sharing this deal.
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- Crutchfield via Amazon (and additional 3rd party sellers)
- Crutchfield via eBay
- Crutchfield
- 11 channels, 140 watts
- Utilizing the very latest audio technology including ESS Sabre DACs, THX Certification, and eARC functionality
- 8K/4K ultra HD
- Dirac live technologies
- IMAX enhanced mode
- THX certified
- Klipsch optimize mode
- Advanced music streaming and connectivity
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Various Retailers have Onkyo TX-RZ70 11.2-Channel AV Receiver for $1999. Shipping is free.
Thanks to community members turnne and cmhrva [discuss] for sharing this deal.
Available from:
Thanks to community members turnne and cmhrva [discuss] for sharing this deal.
Available from:
- Crutchfield via Amazon (and additional 3rd party sellers)
- Crutchfield via eBay
- Crutchfield
- 11 channels, 140 watts
- Utilizing the very latest audio technology including ESS Sabre DACs, THX Certification, and eARC functionality
- 8K/4K ultra HD
- Dirac live technologies
- IMAX enhanced mode
- THX certified
- Klipsch optimize mode
- Advanced music streaming and connectivity
Editor's Notes
Written by qwikwit | Staff- Please see the original post for additional details & give the WIKI and additional forum comments a read for helpful discussion.
- Don't have Amazon Prime? Students can get a free 6-Month Amazon Prime trial with free 2-day shipping, unlimited video streaming & more.
- If you're not a student, there's also a free 1-Month Amazon Prime trial available.
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if you don't need / want those features, then the RZ50 is a very good 2nd choice at a much more affordable price.
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A better pre/ pro is more musical sounding if that matter to you
I listen to 2 channel audio running Pure direct and I could tell a difference in the Marantz prepro I used to have versus the Arcam that took its place.
I tested this extensively before I even ran room correction.
I think Dirac sounds better
If you are the type that listens to 2 channel audio with room correction engaged and matrixes audio it may not matter to you
Specifically to the two pre/ pros I had I noticed the Arcam had more sound specific customization options versus the Marantz
If that's not the case for any of those, there are many less expensive AVRs with preouts that can process 11 channels that could do the job.
As an example:
Denon 3800 has all the features this has(minus Dirac Live being an option) + 2 more independent sub outs and all 11 channels has independent preamp mode.
Even this only lets you turn off L&R fronts OR all channels.
The 3800 has dropped down to $900, even adding Dirac Live to it for $350 now.
There is no other AVR or pre pro that comes close to that performance.
No different how people waited for this to go to $1999.
All that being said you need to have the space and speakers to include multiple subs (near field and front) to be able to really stretch the trinnov or Storm Audio units.
If that's not the case for any of those, there are many less expensive AVRs with preouts that can process 11 channels that could do the job.
As an example:
Denon 3800 has all the features this has(minus Dirac Live being an option) + 2 more independent sub outs and all 11 channels has independent preamp mode.
Even this only lets you turn off L&R fronts OR all channels.
The 3800 has dropped down to $900, even adding Dirac Live to it for $350 now.
There is no other AVR or pre pro that comes close to that performance.
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Center 50 xti
2x surround motion 2i
Descend 12 sub
Kube 12 sub
Any advice would be super appreciated!
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Center 50 xti
2x surround motion 2i
Descend 12 sub
Kube 12 sub
Any advice would be super appreciated!
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first you enter your IP address. the manual has the standard login (admin - user and password), but there is a higher level of customization available, the logon is ciuser for user / password.
Here is probably the best video that covers the optimal way to use Dirac Live(for any brand).
This renowned AV Professional worked directly with Dirac for all these great tips, common confusing questions and issues.
He even touches on the other two RCs Dirac offers(Bass Management & Bass Control) and what they offer besides Dirac Live.
This is universal, there is no separate user guide per brand.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gjWZUZ1
Here is probably the best video that covers the optimal way to use Dirac Live(for any brand).
This renowned AV Professional worked directly with Dirac for all these great tips, common confusing questions and issues.
He even touches on the other two RCs Dirac offers(Bass Management & Bass Control) and what they offer besides Dirac Live.
This is universal, there is no separate user guide per brand.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gjWZUZ1
If you're upgrading from an RZ50 to an RZ70 (or a Pioneer 505 to the 805), it may not be obvious to adjust the crossover in DLBM since those cheaper models lack it!
If you're upgrading from an RZ50 to an RZ70 (or a Pioneer 505 to the 805), it may not be obvious to adjust the crossover in DLBM since those cheaper models lack it!
He's pointing out the only difference between DL & DLBM is you can adjust your crossovers within DL over doing it manually.
If you follow his earlier advice in the video "which is very popular" to manually set your crossovers at 80, this difference is pretty much moot.
As he explains if you have DLBC this is all moot.
As Dirac explains in plain not generic English in their only user manual what DLBC offers.
In basic terms:
With DL it harmonize the subwoofers and non-subwoofer speakers in the lower frequencies using tailor-made phase filters, delays, and gains and it will consider any destructive interference between the speakers.
That video pretty much explains all this, after all he worked directly with Dirac!
He's pointing out the only difference between DL & DLBM is you can adjust your crossovers within DL over doing it manually.
If you follow his earlier advice in the video "which is very popular" to manually set your crossovers at 80, this difference is pretty much moot.
As he explains if you have DLBC this is all moot.
As Dirac explains in plain not generic English in their only user manual what DLBC offers.
In basic terms:
With DL it harmonize the subwoofers and non-subwoofer speakers in the lower frequencies using tailor-made phase filters, delays, and gains and it will consider any destructive interference between the speakers.
That video pretty much explains all this, after all he worked directly with Dirac!
1) In Dirac, you can see where the upper frequencies of your SW and lower frequencies of your surrounds cross over and make the adjustment based on that visual cue. On the AVR side, you're just guessing what that point is!
2) The Dirac filter will be transferred to the AVR with all speaker assignments made and everything level-matched. If you choose to set the crossover only in the AVR, the AVR is blind to information in Dirac (that a full filter would have provided) and is fully independent (for better or for worse)!
1) In Dirac, you can see where the upper frequencies of your SW and lower frequencies of your surrounds cross over and make the adjustment based on that visual cue. On the AVR side, you're just guessing what that point is!
2) The Dirac filter will be transferred to the AVR with all speaker assignments made and everything level-matched. If you choose to set the crossover only in the AVR, the AVR is blind to information in Dirac (that a full filter would have provided) and is fully independent (for better or for worse)!
Again in plain English and in the video, you set the crossovers prior to running Dirac Live.
Dirac Live(nor DLBM) does not do that for you ahead of time!
All DLBM does different, it lets you adjust the crossover in Dirac afterward and gives you a visual.
It does not do any other "extra" whatever correction you're claiming!
Here is the manual AGAIN, in plain English!
https://www.dirac.com/wp-content/...Manual.pdf
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Again in plain English and in the video, you set the crossovers prior to running Dirac Live.
Dirac Live(nor DLBM) does not do that for you ahead of time!
All DLBM does different, it lets you adjust the crossover in Dirac afterward and gives you a visual.
It does not do any other "extra" whatever correction you're claiming!
Here is the manual AGAIN, in plain English!
https://www.dirac.com/wp-content/...Manual.pdf [dirac.com]
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