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Jul 21, 2024 10:34 PM

Sam's Club Members: 70" TCL S Class 4K LED Smart Google TV

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Sam's Club has for its Members: 70" TCL S Class 4K LED Smart Google TV (70S470G) on sale for $399. Shipping is free with Plus Membership otherwise shipping costs will vary by location.

Thanks to community member tunabreath for finding this deal.

Specs:
  • Resolution: 3840 x 2160
  • Refresh Rate: 60Hz
  • HDR: Dolby Vision, HDR10, HLG
  • Game Accelerator 240 for Up to 240 VRR Gaming
  • Dolby Atmos and DTS Virtual:X
  • Smart TV with Google TV Smart OS
  • Ports:
    • 3x HDMI
    • 1x USB
    • 1x Ethernet
    • 1x RF Input
    • 1x Digital Audio Out (Optical)

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Written by megakimcheelove | Staff
  • Price valid through August 18, 2024
  • This offer matches previous Front Page deal that earned 46+ thumbs up.
  • 3-year warranty
  • Don't have a Sam's Club Membership? Join today: Club Membership $50/yr. or Plus Membership $110/yr.
  • Please see the original post for additional details & give the WIKI and additional forum comments a read for helpful discussion.

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Written by tunabreath
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Sam's Club has for its Members: 70" TCL S Class 4K LED Smart Google TV (70S470G) on sale for $399. Shipping is free with Plus Membership otherwise shipping costs will vary by location.

Thanks to community member tunabreath for finding this deal.

Specs:
  • Resolution: 3840 x 2160
  • Refresh Rate: 60Hz
  • HDR: Dolby Vision, HDR10, HLG
  • Game Accelerator 240 for Up to 240 VRR Gaming
  • Dolby Atmos and DTS Virtual:X
  • Smart TV with Google TV Smart OS
  • Ports:
    • 3x HDMI
    • 1x USB
    • 1x Ethernet
    • 1x RF Input
    • 1x Digital Audio Out (Optical)

Editor's Notes

Written by megakimcheelove | Staff
  • Price valid through August 18, 2024
  • This offer matches previous Front Page deal that earned 46+ thumbs up.
  • 3-year warranty
  • Don't have a Sam's Club Membership? Join today: Club Membership $50/yr. or Plus Membership $110/yr.
  • Please see the original post for additional details & give the WIKI and additional forum comments a read for helpful discussion.

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scottzee
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6.3 overall at RTINGS [rtings.com].
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mwallach03
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People get so scared of 60 hz most of you wouldnt even know if it didnt say-LOL
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You can always turn off motion smoothing on almost all TVs, that's the first thing I do when I get the tv. I almost always use film maker mode if available for watching most of the content.
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Jul 24, 2024 2:21 PM
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CR1680Jul 24, 2024 2:21 PM
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The 65' version of this Tv is $100.00 dollars off. So $299.00 for 65". Pretty good deal if youy can find one. My local store had 3 or 4 in stock. Happy hunting.
Jul 24, 2024 4:33 PM
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slickseasonJul 24, 2024 4:33 PM
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Budget yourself a few bucks to add a proper streaming box/stick to these like a Roku or Apple TV (if you don't already have one).

The hardware for the google TV OS on these are so underpowered that after 2 months it was chugging so slow even after I turned off as many features as I could.

Otherwise it's a perfectly fine bedroom TV.
Jul 25, 2024 1:19 PM
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UNCfan07Jul 25, 2024 1:19 PM
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Quote from willygee View quoted comment :
Seems like a decent deal. Any comment on the quality?
It's bottom of the barrel 4k. Good for a kids play room or guest room. It's only 250 nits brightnes
Jul 25, 2024 3:08 PM
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AmusedStove7007Jul 25, 2024 3:08 PM
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Quote from dewc1 View quoted comment :
Okay, I don't even own a 4k displays of any kind in my house. Biggest TV is 42" and it's nearly 10 years old.
Which is surprising as I have an IT degree and used to really love my gadgets. But, my IT degree is 25 years old (I had never even been on the Internet until my second semester of college...only 2 out of 40 in our class had). So obviously all of my knowledge is ancient.

My question is...which is it that makes movies and especially tv shows look like you are in the studio while they are filming it...think it's commonly known as the "soap opera" effect. Is it 120hz refresh rate or is it where they add "artificial frames" to make it appear smoother. I think that's called motion interpolation maybe? A few of my relatives have whichever does that on their tvs...and I can't even hardly watch it. It's so distracting that it takes me right out of the movie. I just can't watch it. I just don't want to make a mistake and buy a set that has this. Thanks in advance
1. You can always disable, and 120hz displays can always just drop down the 60hz or 30hz or 24hz. Interpolation can be disabled.

The reason 120hz is better is because UIs look much smoother(by around 2x, 60fps vs 120fps) and gaming consoles can also output double the frame rate to the display.

And of course the added frame rate makes things smoother to the eye. But what's important is that a 120hz TV will never be worse than a 60hz, because it can literally just drop down the 60hz making them both identical. There's no downside. Interpolation also exists on 60hz tvs, making 30hz content into 60hz
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Jul 26, 2024 6:42 AM
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CoreyR2384Jul 26, 2024 6:42 AM
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Quote from captivater View quoted comment :
Motion smoothing can be found on both 60 and 120 hz panels. I just made the switch to oled 120 hz.

I prefer the motion processing on my 10 yo TCL 60hz panel.

Colors do pop on the oled though.
That's not due to the motion smoothing. TVs with faster pixel response times have more visible judder, and OLEDs have the fastest response times of any TVs (it's near instant). The TCL just had poor pixel response times, so you don't notice it as much. It's inherent to higher end TVs, and a bit of a trade-off.
Jul 26, 2024 3:13 PM
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captivaterJul 26, 2024 3:13 PM
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Quote from CoreyR2384 View quoted comment :
That's not due to the motion smoothing. TVs with faster pixel response times have more visible judder, and OLEDs have the fastest response times of any TVs (it's near instant). The TCL just had poor pixel response times, so you don't notice it as much. It's inherent to higher end TVs, and a bit of a trade-off.
So I've read. Doesn't change my opinion that the 60 hz appears smoother.
Wondering if this issue also exists on the 15.6", 60 hz oled panels found in the less expensive laptops.
Jul 26, 2024 3:22 PM
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CoreyR2384Jul 26, 2024 3:22 PM
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Quote from captivater View quoted comment :
So I've read. Doesn't change my opinion that the 60 hz appears smoother.
Wondering if this issue also exists on the 15.6", 60 hz oled panels found in the less expensive laptops.
It has nothing to do with the refresh rate (60hz or 120hz). All 120hz TVs can also run at 60hz. It's the pixel response time, which is how fast each individual pixel can change color. On your budget TV, the pixels stay the same color longer than they're supposed to, giving the illusion of smoother motion. Faster pixel response times allow objects in motion on the TV to look sharper, instead of blurry and smeared, like on a TV with slower response times. The trade off is that you lose that illusion of smoother motion. You can mitigate some of it by going to a 120hz panel and turning on interpolation (sometimes called motion smoothing).

And it's an issue with all OLEDs, as they have a fastest pixel response time than any other TV on the market. Most people get used to it. I no longer notice it after I turned on motion smoothing and have had the TV for a couple months.
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Jul 26, 2024 3:35 PM
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captivaterJul 26, 2024 3:35 PM
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Quote from CoreyR2384 View quoted comment :
It has nothing to do with the refresh rate (60hz or 120hz). All 120hz TVs can also run at 60hz. It's the pixel response time, which is how fast each individual pixel can change color. On your budget TV, the pixels stay the same color longer than they're supposed to, giving the illusion of smoother motion. Faster pixel response times allow objects in motion on the TV to look sharper, instead of blurry and smeared, like on a TV with slower response times. The trade off is that you lose that illusion of smoother motion. You can mitigate some of it by going to a 120hz panel and turning on interpolation (sometimes called motion smoothing).

And it's an issue with all OLEDs, as they have a fastest pixel response time than any other TV on the market. Most people get used to it. I no longer notice it after I turned on motion smoothing and have had the TV for a couple months.
Yes of course. But that is not my understanding of how the 120 hz panels run 30 hz content or 24 hz content for that matter. The panel will always display at 120 hz, but frames will be quadrupled or quintupled, the switch to the next frame (multiplied set of frames) will always occur faster because the panel is refreshing faster.

You're correct in that it's ameliorated some by Motion Smoothing. The balance I like on the C3 are Destutter 3, Deblur 5. I tried black frame insertion, but it was causing strange artifacts and darkened the image too much for my tastes.

I still stand by my assertion that the 24/30 hz motion on the 60 hz panel appears smoother.
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Jul 26, 2024 10:25 PM
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EvilTimmyJul 26, 2024 10:25 PM
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Quote from fantito View quoted comment :
I know it's a budget model but seems like I would be fine considering I currently have a 7 year old 60" samsung 1080p. Thoughts?
'60" 1080p' How does it feel cutting your eyes on those jagged pixels?
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Jul 28, 2024 1:25 AM
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minghiJul 28, 2024 1:25 AM
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Quote from fantito View quoted comment :
I know it's a budget model but seems like I would be fine considering I currently have a 7 year old 60" samsung 1080p. Thoughts?
Wow so basically it doesn't excel at anything 😕 but for $399 it's an awesome deal for a 70" but I suppose people will bitch about anything and everything nowadays!
Jul 28, 2024 1:38 AM
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fantitoJul 28, 2024 1:38 AM
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Quote from minghi View quoted comment :
Wow so basically it doesn't excel at anything 😕 but for $399 it's an awesome deal for a 70" but I suppose people will bitch about anything and everything nowadays!
I can't tell if you're mad at my comment or at someone else's
Jul 28, 2024 5:45 AM
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HonestPickle339Jul 28, 2024 5:45 AM
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Bought 65 inch TCL S450G for $199 in my local Costco. That's the only warehouse they are selling it for cheap. Not sure if that was a good deal but for $199 you won't get a 65 inch. I am still not sure to keep this one or go for HiSense QD6 55 inch QLED which is $270ish in Costco.
Any thoughts ? My budget is max $350-400 for a decent QLED and possibly 120hz refresh rate if it comes
Jul 28, 2024 6:20 AM
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FeistyWing507Jul 28, 2024 6:20 AM
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Quote from Calicar805 View quoted comment :
I'm in the same boat. It's a 55" LG 3D model I've been waiting to die so I can get another. It's been 84 years....
LoL, you are staying in the past...
Jul 28, 2024 4:03 PM
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CoreyR2384Jul 28, 2024 4:03 PM
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Quote from captivater View quoted comment :
Yes of course. But that is not my understanding of how the 120 hz panels run 30 hz content or 24 hz content for that matter. The panel will always display at 120 hz, but frames will be quadrupled or quintupled, the switch to the next frame (multiplied set of frames) will always occur faster because the panel is refreshing faster.

You're correct in that it's ameliorated some by Motion Smoothing. The balance I like on the C3 are Destutter 3, Deblur 5. I tried black frame insertion, but it was causing strange artifacts and darkened the image too much for my tastes.

I still stand by my assertion that the 24/30 hz motion on the 60 hz panel appears smoother.
That's not true. 120hz can also run at 60hz, 20hz, 24hz, or anything in between. It's only doubling/quadrupling the frame if the TV is set to run at 120hz. The same goes for monitors. There's really zero downside to a 120hz panel vs a 60hz panel. What you're experiencing is the response time.
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Jul 28, 2024 7:17 PM
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captivaterJul 28, 2024 7:17 PM
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Quote from CoreyR2384 View quoted comment :
That's not true. 120hz can also run at 60hz, 20hz, 24hz, or anything in between. It's only doubling/quadrupling the frame if the TV is set to run at 120hz. The same goes for monitors. There's really zero downside to a 120hz panel vs a 60hz panel. What you're experiencing is the response time.
What you're saying is illogical.

If you could simply switch the hz, movie buffs that don't care about games would just buy 60 hz panels and run them at 24 hz, instead of relying upon pulldown.

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