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frontpage Posted by iconian | Staff • Aug 21, 2024

46mm Hamilton Men's Broadway Automatic GMT Watch (Black Leather Strap)

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Ashford has 46mm Hamilton Men's Broadway Automatic GMT Watch (Black Leather Strap, H001.43.725.731.01) on sale for $489 when you apply discount code ASHHAM489 in your cart. Shipping is free.

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About this Item:
  • Case Width: 46 mm
  • Case Back: Exhibition
  • Case Depth: 13.5 mm
  • Crystal: Sapphire Crystal Scratch Resistant
  • Material: Stainless Steel
  • Shape: Round
  • Water Resistance: 50 m (165 feet)
  • Dial Color: Black

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Ashford has 46mm Hamilton Men's Broadway Automatic GMT Watch (Black Leather Strap, H001.43.725.731.01) on sale for $489 when you apply discount code ASHHAM489 in your cart. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Deal Editor iconian for sharing this deal.

About this Item:
  • Case Width: 46 mm
  • Case Back: Exhibition
  • Case Depth: 13.5 mm
  • Crystal: Sapphire Crystal Scratch Resistant
  • Material: Stainless Steel
  • Shape: Round
  • Water Resistance: 50 m (165 feet)
  • Dial Color: Black

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conan1201
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I like how you think you're speaking on behalf of "horologists"… when you're not. You seem like someone who's learned one or two things about watches and wants everyone to know how cultured and sophisticated you are. Quartzes are great watches and watches are for everyone. Hamilton makes some banger watches and should absolutely be on everyone's "let me give it a try if I like it" list. Don't "gatekeep"… just enjoy
JishengC
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That tells me that you're not talking from a horologist's perspective but from a gatekeeping perspective. Companies like Grand Seiko and Citizen are still improving quartz tech in their high end models like the 9F and Chronomaster to improve accuracy all the time. Even Grand Seiko's famed Spring Drive is a hybrid quartz movement.
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Within the Powermatic family of movement's there are -thus far- three different levels;
C07.1XX; these have a synthetic escapement.
C07.6XX; these have a regular escapement.
C07.8XX; these have a silicon balance spring.

Hamilton H14 movement is Powermatic 80 C07.661, the one with a regular (non-synthetic) escapement.
I still don't see what is wrong with the synthetic escapement but there's many concerns about it out there. But fear not, this specific movement doesn't have it.

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Quote from dealgate :
This uses the crappy Powermatic 80 movement. I would not buy this for any price. This is as minimally Swiss as you can get and still call it "Swiss Made".

Within the Powermatic family of movement's there are -thus far- three different levels;
C07.1XX; these have a synthetic escapement.
C07.6XX; these have a regular escapement.
C07.8XX; these have a silicon balance spring.

Hamilton H14 movement is Powermatic 80 C07.661, the one with a regular (non-synthetic) escapement.
I still don't see what is wrong with the synthetic escapement but there's many concerns about it out there. But fear not, this specific movement doesn't have it.
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Quote from luk350 :
Within the Powermatic family of movement's there are -thus far- three different levels;
C07.1XX; these have a synthetic escapement.
C07.6XX; these have a regular escapement.
C07.8XX; these have a silicon balance spring.

Hamilton H14 movement is Powermatic 80 C07.661, the one with a regular (non-synthetic) escapement.
I still don't see what is wrong with the synthetic escapement but there's many concerns about it out there. But fear not, this specific movement doesn't have it.
I don't like it because it is all machine made. It is one step up from quartz. It is also 21600 hz.
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Quote from dealgate :
I don't like it because it is all machine made. It is one step up from quartz. It is also 21600 hz.
Are you talking from consumer or watchmaker perspective? All parts are mass production made, low beat is trade for better power reserve. Nothing wrong with quartz.
Powermatic 80 being trashed more from consumer, much less from professional standpoint.
Sure no one want pay premium for it, but otherwise it's ok.
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Quote from dealgate :
From a horologist perspective. Horologists pay no mind at all to quartz. Quartz is the snap-together model of the watch world.
That tells me that you're not talking from a horologist's perspective but from a gatekeeping perspective. Companies like Grand Seiko and Citizen are still improving quartz tech in their high end models like the 9F and Chronomaster to improve accuracy all the time. Even Grand Seiko's famed Spring Drive is a hybrid quartz movement.
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Automatics are such a hassle... Unless you are ok not knowing the exact time...
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Quote from JishengC :
That tells me that you're not talking from a horologist's perspective but from a gatekeeping perspective. Companies like Grand Seiko and Citizen are still improving quartz tech in their high end models like the 9F and Chronomaster to improve accuracy all the time. Even Grand Seiko's famed Spring Drive is a hybrid quartz movement.
Just because some companies may offer quartz movements doesn't mean quartz movements are embraced by horologists. Breitling has quartz models too, they are also not loved by many watch enthusiasts.
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Quote from dealgate :
From a horologist perspective. Horologists pay no mind at all to quartz. Quartz is the snap-together model of the watch world.
I like how you think you're speaking on behalf of "horologists"… when you're not. You seem like someone who's learned one or two things about watches and wants everyone to know how cultured and sophisticated you are. Quartzes are great watches and watches are for everyone. Hamilton makes some banger watches and should absolutely be on everyone's "let me give it a try if I like it" list. Don't "gatekeep"… just enjoy
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easleyjr96
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Quote from dealgate :
From a horologist perspective. Horologists pay no mind at all to quartz. Quartz is the snap-together model of the watch world.
You sound like somebody who knows nothing about watches.
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Quote from easleyjr96 :
You sound like somebody who knows nothing about watches.
He definitely doesn't. Powermatic 80 is a fine movement. I have one in my Tissot PRX and it loses 1 second a day. For $500 it is beautiful, comfortable bracelet and tells great time.
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Quote from grneal :
He definitely doesn't. Powermatic 80 is a fine movement. I have one in my Tissot PRX and it loses 1 second a day. For $500 it is beautiful, comfortable bracelet and tells great time.
Yeah the powermatics in my Mido Ocean Stars have been my most accurate movements. The real issue with the watch listed here is the 46mm size
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Quote from robrob777 :
Automatics are such a hassle... Unless you are ok not knowing the exact time...
I use my cellphone for the time
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Quote from dealgate :
I don't like it because it is all machine made. It is one step up from quartz. It is also 21600 hz.
Here is the issue with your perspective. You are talking about a $500 automatic GMT. Not everyone can afford a "Hand Made Patek" as an example. For people who are on a budget is the Hamilton a decent starter watch? It's a good price. Not my favorite style. However it is a good price.

I could sit here and watch snob people because I own XYZ and ABC. That is malevolent behavior. There is always a watch snob with something more expensive and better for some reason than what is on your wrist.

Be glad that companies are selling affordable interesting watches. Otherwise you will see less and less people having an interest in mechanical watches when they can just go buy an Apple Watch and be done with it.

I got into watches via Invicta. I now own quite a few Rolex, Brietling, Omega, GP, plus a few other brands. I appreciate them all for their purpose.
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