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Lenovo ThinkPad P14s Gen 5 Mobile Workstation Laptop (21ME001MUS) on sale for $2669 - $1550 when you apply eCoupon code
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Specs:
- AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 8840HS 8-Core Processor
- 14" 2.8K 2880x1800 OLED 100%DCI-P3 400 nits 120Hz Display
- 64GB DDR5-5600MHz SODIMM (2 x 32GB) Memory
- 1TB SSD M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 Performance TLC Opal
- Integrated AMD Radeon 780M Graphics
- Backlit Keyboard
- Wi-Fi 6E NFA725A 2x2 AX + Bluetooth 5.3
- Windows 11 Pro
- Ports:
- 2x USB-C Thunderbolt 4 w/ Power Delivery 3.0 & DisplayPort 1.4
- 2x USB-A Gbps
- 1x HDMI 2.1
- 1x Audio Combo Jack
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Processor AMD Ryzen™ 7 Pro 5850U Processor (1.90 GHz, up to 4.40 GHz Max Boost, 8 Cores, 16 Threads, 16 MB Cache)
Graphics Integrated AMD Radeon™ Graphics
Memory 32 GB LPDDR4X 4266MHz (Soldered)
Storage 1 TB PCIe SSD
Display 13.3" WQXGA (2560 x 1600) IPS, anti-glare, low power, 400 nits
Going back to topic, yes It is a bit magicial because the system as a whole can do more than its windows counterpart with the same amount of ram, hence my original comment.
Yes you are right M1 is fast because of the multi-die package design that contains both the actual processor die and the DRAM, but designing and producing all of this on 5nm nodes was revolutionary for the entry level laptop segment at the time, hardly a costsaving measure with the immense upfront costs. You forgot to mention faster memory retrieval, just looking at memory frequency alone isn't enough. And overall, you are only looking at this from a hardware standpoint which only shows a fraction of why rams on Mac's are 'magical'
Mac soc's are fast because of the tight integration between the hardware and the os. Reference Counting (a memory garbage collection technique) is built right into the apple soc, essentially hardware-accelerating every app running on the OS, including the emulated x86-64. ARM uses a 16K swap file, vs Windows which uses a 4K swap. Throw in other architectural changes and Macs are pretty rapid when using swap. It's still consuming the RAM and still swapping, just not as quick to be bogged down by it.
Apple's quality control of software is superb, especially on memory consumption. That's why iPhones have half the ram but can run faster and do more than any flagship Android phone
Macos will aggressively garbage collect ui elements in apps, that windows won't. So apps that aren't in use, will more quickly use less ram. Apple compounds this by making the definition of 'not in use' also include apps that are open, running, but not visible on the screen - minimized or even just behind another window. And finally, apps that are not in use get reduced scheduling on the cpu, so they need to be loaded into ram to run less frequently. All in all, this means that macos feels much much faster while doing equivalent tasks on windows.
Macos is much better when it comes to swap and actually managing what's using ram. It will happily dump stuff into swap if it's not being used whereas windows applications take up more ram anyway and the os isn't as efficient in swap. Apple will be optimized for such processes. You have to understand windows is made to run on varying hardware. It's not about memory limits. Specs aren't everything like you claim.
Going back to topic, yes It is a bit magicial because the system as a whole can do more than its windows counterpart with the same amount of ram, hence my original comment.
Yes you are right M1 is fast because of the multi-die package design that contains both the actual processor die and the DRAM, but designing and producing all of this on 5nm nodes was revolutionary for the entry level laptop segment at the time, hardly a costsaving measure with the immense upfront costs. You forgot to mention faster memory retrieval, just looking at memory frequency alone isn't enough. And overall, you are only looking at this from a hardware standpoint which only shows a fraction of why rams on Mac's are 'magical'
Mac soc's are fast because of the tight integration between the hardware and the os. Reference Counting (a memory garbage collection technique) is built right into the apple soc, essentially hardware-accelerating every app running on the OS, including the emulated x86-64. ARM uses a 16K swap file, vs Windows which uses a 4K swap. Throw in other architectural changes and Macs are pretty rapid when using swap. It's still consuming the RAM and still swapping, just not as quick to be bogged down by it.
Apple's quality control of software is superb, especially on memory consumption. That's why iPhones have half the ram but can run faster and do more than any flagship Android phone
Macos will aggressively garbage collect ui elements in apps, that windows won't. So apps that aren't in use, will more quickly use less ram. Apple compounds this by making the definition of 'not in use' also include apps that are open, running, but not visible on the screen - minimized or even just behind another window. And finally, apps that are not in use get reduced scheduling on the cpu, so they need to be loaded into ram to run less frequently. All in all, this means that macos feels much much faster while doing equivalent tasks on windows.
Macos is much better when it comes to swap and actually managing what's using ram. It will happily dump stuff into swap if it's not being used whereas windows applications take up more ram anyway and the os isn't as efficient in swap. Apple will be optimized for such processes. You have to understand windows is made to run on varying hardware. It's not about memory limits. Specs aren't everything like you claim.
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Better display though (90Hz after edid hack on the old vs 120 on the new)
With AMD dropping support for windows 10 on strix point, this is probably the best / last 14" Lenovo AMD laptop you'll be able to buy without having to decide between windows 11 and Linux. I would grab it in a heartbeat if I didn't already get the p14s g4 7840u 64gb ram oled deal from last year.
The extra ram is really nice for whenever a browser tab springs a memory leak. Gives you more time to notice before it starts overflowing into the c drive.
I will never purposely buy a laptop with 2.8k or 4k when 1920x1080/1200 is an option. To me 16:10 is much more important - getting more vertical real-estate is a game changer.
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Give me 1920x1200 and the extra vertical space for productivity and web browsing - thats the key.
I've owned a 4k screen that was considered a fantastic panel, and hated it. Everything is so small you either scale the image, which many OSes dont do so well, or downgrade the resolution.
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