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Woot! Appsclusive Kerye Premium Japanese Whetstone Knife Sharpening Block 3000 Grit with Angled Wood Base and Accessories $10.99
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This kit doesn't include a flattening stone and the whetstone has a single grit that's fairly fine (3000.) Unless you just want this to continuously touch up an already sharp knife, I would really recommend against this kit. Well-rated kits with multiple grits and a flattening stone sell for $20-$30 all the time. Obviously $20 is more than $10 but this kit is a waste by itself.
For example, this one [amazon.com] includes four grits (400, 1000, 3000, 8000), a flattening stone and a strop for $27. This one [amazon.com] doesn't have any reviews but it's just $20 and also includes polishing compound for the strop and some cut resistant gloves.
This kit doesn't include a flattening stone and the whetstone has a single grit that's fairly fine (3000.) Unless you just want this to continuously touch up an already sharp knife, I would really recommend against this kit. Well-rated kits with multiple grits and a flattening stone sell for $20-$30 all the time. Obviously $20 is more than $10 but this kit is a waste by itself.
For example, this one [amazon.com] includes four grits (400, 1000, 3000, 8000), a flattening stone and a strop for $27. This one [amazon.com] doesn't have any reviews but it's just $20 and also includes polishing compound for the strop and some cut resistant gloves.
This kit doesn't include a flattening stone and the whetstone has a single grit that's fairly fine (3000.) Unless you just want this to continuously touch up an already sharp knife, I would really recommend against this kit. Well-rated kits with multiple grits and a flattening stone sell for $20-$30 all the time. Obviously $20 is more than $10 but this kit is a waste by itself.
For example, this one [amazon.com] includes four grits (400, 1000, 3000, 8000), a flattening stone and a strop for $27. This one [amazon.com] doesn't have any reviews but it's just $20 and also includes polishing compound for the strop and some cut resistant gloves.
For anybody else looking, I bought the $27 example and am very pleased with it. It is a "full" kit with everything you need. I took a seriously dull and damaged Japanese knife to very sharp with it.
and for flattening stones, Atoma 140 is pretty solid, a lil pricey ($55 average) but thats just a buy once cry once scenario (unless used also for sharpening)
and for flattening stones, Atoma 140 is pretty solid, a lil pricey ($55 average) but thats just a buy once cry once scenario (unless used also for sharpening)
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This kit doesn't include a flattening stone and the whetstone has a single grit that's fairly fine (3000.) Unless you just want this to continuously touch up an already sharp knife, I would really recommend against this kit. Well-rated kits with multiple grits and a flattening stone sell for $20-$30 all the time. Obviously $20 is more than $10 but this kit is a waste by itself.
For example, this one [amazon.com] includes four grits (400, 1000, 3000, 8000), a flattening stone and a strop for $27. This one [amazon.com] doesn't have any reviews but it's just $20 and also includes polishing compound for the strop and some cut resistant gloves.
While a grit progression is ultimately a goal if you want super sharp knives, it is not required if all you want is decent sharpness. A diamond plate alone is enough to get a good sharpness. Then afterwards if people want more they can buy a 1000 grit stone of good quality, and the diamond plate from before becomes the flattening stone. Stropping is good but stropping can be done on newspaper or a belt, no need to buy anything.
1) S SATC brand diamond plate. About $20. This is a very useful 400 grit stone that doesn't dish so no need to flatten. It's very coarse but coarse is better for beginners since you need to do fewer motions to get a result, meaning less room for error. Speaking of flattening, if you buy more whetstones down the line, this will become your flattening plate.
2) Atoma 400. About $50. This is the same as above except by a much more reputable maker and with diamonds dispersed in dots that make it a bit nicer to use. Functionally identical just much much nicer if you want.
3) Naniwa Arata 800. About $40. If you prefer using water stones instead of diamonds this is a good easy option that dishes slowly and doesn't require soaking. If you already own a diamond plate then upgrade to the Arata 1000 so you have two stones of meaningfully different grits. This is just one stone instead of the like 4 included in cheap kits, but is much easier to learn from with great feedback. Alternates include the "Naniwa Chosera" brand of the same grits, "Shapton Kuromaku" brand of 1000 or 2000 grit.
4) Newspaper. About $0. People love talking about finishing on strops. Strops are good. But Strops don't need to be leather or anything fancy. Professional knife makers frequently strop using regular newspaper, canvas cloth, or old jeans. Do not spend money on a strop unless you already have a stone set you are satisfied with.
Also, the fixed 30 degree angle is an atrocious, horrible idea. The bevel on your knife might match this base, but it might not. And if it doesn't match this angle, you will have to create a new bevel. And that would take a whole day on a 3000 grit stone. It would be like mowing your lawn with a scissors. What you do when you sharpen on an normal whetstone is find the factory angle of your knife and sharpen at that angle. That's impossible with this base.
All in all a terrible product unless you really know what you're doing and need a cheap polishing stone.
As for stropping, those are all great if you only want to break the burr off. You could even do that by running your finger across the edge ("over" the edge, away from it, not into it, of course) back and forth a few times. But that or stropping with a newspaper or old jeans or whatever isn't the same as stropping with a compound. With an appropriate compound, you not only break the burr but also take the edge one step further. For example, the typical green polishing compound is the equivalent of about 30,000 grit, red is courser, white is finer, etc.
Pulling out diamonds is a more complicated story. It's definitely true that higher quality plates are much better and also coarser grit plates too since there's more metal plating holding the diamonds in place. I'm not sure what it's like with woodworking tools but pulling out diamonds is a real problem when sharpening kitchen knives even for higher end stones so some people try to avoid it. Though I think that can be avoided with technique to avoid pressure and to use mostly trailing strokes.
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As for stropping, those are all great if you only want to break the burr off. You could even do that by running your finger across the edge ("over" the edge, away from it, not into it, of course) back and forth a few times. But that or stropping with a newspaper or old jeans or whatever isn't the same as stropping with a compound. With an appropriate compound, you not only break the burr but also take the edge one step further. For example, the typical green polishing compound is the equivalent of about 30,000 grit, red is courser, white is finer, etc.
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