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I know it's $5K, but with brand new Shimano Ultegra Di2 12 speed and full Ultegra powertrain, except for the BB which is a Token Ninja Press Fit setup. The LOOK 38D carbon fiber wheels [lookcycle.com], alone, sell for $1,100 and are a collaboration between French LOOK and Corima and use DT Swiss spokes and DT 370 hubs. The wheels come with Continent GP5000 Tubeless (25mm) tires mounted (which sell for around $80 a piece). The Huez RS frameset, alone, sells for $4K. So, just the frame and carbon fiber Look/Corima wheels are worth about $5,100 - by themselves. According to a 2 year old article on an 11 speed mechanical version of LOOK Huez RS, the (L) frame size weighs 17 lbs. The 2024 Di2 12 speed in Medium, should be very close to that same weight, and possible a bit lighter.
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LOOK R 38 D CARBON TUBELESS (w/ DT Swiss 370 Hubs)
CONTINENTAL GP 5000 TL TUBELESS 700 x 25
Drivetrain
Features:
- A high modulus carbon frame with a modern, avant-garde design
- The brand new Shimano Ultegra Di2 12 speed electronic groupset.
- 38mm, full carbon LOOK wheels that make no compromise on performance
Made by LOOK
- Frame: LOOK 785 HUEZ RS disc
- Seatpost: LOOK LS1 CARBON SUPER LIGHT 27.2 mm 350 mm
- Saddle: LOOK by S MARCO SHORT FIT DYNAMIC open fit
- Stem: LOOK LS1 ALLOY SL (XS 90/S 100 / M – L 110 / XL 120)
- Handlebar: LOOK LS2 ALLOY (XS –S 40 / M – L 42 / XL 44)
LOOK R 38 D CARBON TUBELESS (w/ DT Swiss 370 Hubs)
CONTINENTAL GP 5000 TL TUBELESS 700 x 25
Drivetrain
- Crankset: SHIMANO ULTEGRA R8100 52 x 36 (XS-S 170/M-L 172,5 /XL 175)
- Chain: SHIMANO M8100 12 SPEED
- Bottom bracket: BB PF 86.5 / Token Ninja Sram DUB
- Cassette: SHIMANO ULTEGRA R8100 11 x 34
- Shifters: SHIMANO ULTEGRA DI2 R8170
- Derailleurs: SHIMANO ULTEGRA DI2 R8150
- Rotors: SHIMANO RT MT800 F: 160 mm R : 140 mm
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I know it's $5K, but with brand new Shimano Ultegra Di2 12 speed and full Ultegra powertrain, except for the BB which is a Token Ninja Press Fit setup. The LOOK 38D carbon fiber wheels [lookcycle.com], alone, sell for $1,100 and are a collaboration between French LOOK and Corima and use DT Swiss spokes and DT 370 hubs. The wheels come with Continent GP5000 Tubeless (25mm) tires mounted (which sell for around $80 a piece). The Huez RS frameset, alone, sells for $4K. So, just the frame and carbon fiber Look/Corima wheels are worth about $5,100 - by themselves. According to a 2 year old article on an 11 speed mechanical version of LOOK Huez RS, the (L) frame size weighs 17 lbs. The 2024 Di2 12 speed in Medium, should be very close to that same weight, and possible a bit lighter.
Features:
Made by LOOK
LOOK R 38 D CARBON TUBELESS (w/ DT Swiss 370 Hubs)
CONTINENTAL GP 5000 TL TUBELESS 700 x 25
Drivetrain
Features:
- A high modulus carbon frame with a modern, avant-garde design
- The brand new Shimano Ultegra Di2 12 speed electronic groupset.
- 38mm, full carbon LOOK wheels that make no compromise on performance
Made by LOOK
- Frame: LOOK 785 HUEZ RS disc
- Seatpost: LOOK LS1 CARBON SUPER LIGHT 27.2 mm 350 mm
- Saddle: LOOK by S MARCO SHORT FIT DYNAMIC open fit
- Stem: LOOK LS1 ALLOY SL (XS 90/S 100 / M – L 110 / XL 120)
- Handlebar: LOOK LS2 ALLOY (XS –S 40 / M – L 42 / XL 44)
LOOK R 38 D CARBON TUBELESS (w/ DT Swiss 370 Hubs)
CONTINENTAL GP 5000 TL TUBELESS 700 x 25
Drivetrain
- Crankset: SHIMANO ULTEGRA R8100 52 x 36 (XS-S 170/M-L 172,5 /XL 175)
- Chain: SHIMANO M8100 12 SPEED
- Bottom bracket: BB PF 86.5 / Token Ninja Sram DUB
- Cassette: SHIMANO ULTEGRA R8100 11 x 34
- Shifters: SHIMANO ULTEGRA DI2 R8170
- Derailleurs: SHIMANO ULTEGRA DI2 R8150
- Rotors: SHIMANO RT MT800 F: 160 mm R : 140 mm
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Pros: price, relatively light weight frame (under 1k grams), new 12 speed Ultegra is all you need.
Cons: Those carbon wheels are heavy and narrow. (1660 gm and 19mm internal) 25mm tires are a too narrow for the modern road bike. At this price expected better handlebars, although they are pretty easy to chance.
Neither here or there - external cables ahead of the head tube. Some people like the easy of maintaining and changing cables, some like the look of integrated cables.
Pros: price, relatively light weight frame (under 1k grams), new 12 speed Ultegra is all you need.
Cons: Those carbon wheels are heavy and narrow. (1660 gm and 19mm internal) 25mm tires are a too narrow for the modern road bike. At this price expected better handlebars, although they are pretty easy to chance.
Neither here or there - external cables ahead of the head tube. Some people like the easy of maintaining and changing cables, some like the look of integrated cables.
It's a fair critique that the handlebars are lower end... at this price point, carbon handlebars would be nice. Given the price point, the higher end wheels and Di2 12 speed Ultegra, I'm guessing the use of a lower end aluminum handlebar was a cost cutting measure. Also, integrated LOOKs awesome (pun intended), but if you work on your own bike... they can be a nightmare.
It currently has 0 thumbs up... but I think it's a pretty good deal.
Going to 30mm will not only add comfort, puncture protection, but also not make any difference on the speed. (Check the https://www.bicycleroll
If it were me, I'd get just the frameset that's also on sale https://www.biketiresdi
It's a fair critique that the handlebars are lower end... at this price point, carbon handlebars would be nice. Given the price point, the higher end wheels and Di2 12 speed Ultegra, I'm guessing the use of a lower end aluminum handlebar was a cost cutting measure. Also, integrated LOOKs awesome (pun intended), but if you work on your own bike... they can be a nightmare.
It currently has 0 thumbs up... but I think it's a pretty good deal.
Going to 30mm will not only add comfort, puncture protection, but also not make any difference on the speed. (Check the https://www.bicyclerollingresista...00-s-tr-30 [bicyclerollingresistance.com] and add the 25mm to the comparison. You can see that they all have pretty much the same rolling resistance.) On my road bike I run 32mm tires in the off season, and race on the 30mm. If it's fast enough for Tadej, it is okay for me.
If it were me, I'd get just the frameset that's also on sale https://www.biketiresdirect.com/p...tr=&sg=505 [biketiresdirect.com] build it up with Ultegra (https://www.eurobikeparts.com/pro...0-Di2-Full [eurobikeparts.com]) and get nicer wheelset from Hunt (something like this https://us.huntbikewheels.com/pro...c-wheelset [huntbikewheels.com]). Add some handlebars/stem/tape/etc.. still comes under the price of the full bike , but you will have it exactly the way you want it.
A "deal" with these specs would be $3k for a hot deal, and $3.5k for a warm one.
Also, this bike has pretty racy geometry. Definitely wouldn't pick it up as a commuter, lol. I think an endurance geometry road or gravel bike would work much better for this purpose.
A "deal" with these specs would be $3k for a hot deal, and $3.5k for a warm one.
Also, this bike has pretty racy geometry. Definitely wouldn't pick it up as a commuter, lol. I think an endurance geometry road or gravel bike would work much better for this purpose.
I'll wait...
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I think the look for $5k still isn't great value, but what really is when you're talking about $5k+ bikes?
I think the look for $5k still isn't great value, but what really is when you're talking about $5k+ bikes?
Do you have a link? What's the weight of the Canyon? This is one of the top road frames from LOOK as well - not sure how the Canyon frame compares.
EDIT - just looked up the bike you're referencing, and it's 18.57 lbs (not sure which size)... but the LOOK Huez RS is only 17 lbs in size Large. So, it's not quite in the same class as the Huez RS.
https://www.excelsports
Look bud, I get it, you posted the deal and are being defensive about it, however Look while a good brand is not exactly bike porn, so I don't know why it would command a 50%+ premium vs other bikes that have similar or better specs. Here is an example of a bike with specs as good or better than the Look you posted for $3199. Full Ultegra DI2 2x12, quality Reynolds AR41 DB carbon wheels (which I prefer over the ones on the Look), carbon bars (which the Look doesn't have). Similar geometry as well. Yes, Felt is not top tier, but still a respectable brand.
https://outlet.wheeland
See, you didn't have to wait for long...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/19657832...medi
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https://www.excelsports.com/pinar...sku=014228 [excelsports.com]
Look bud, I get it, you posted the deal and are being defensive about it, however Look while a good brand is not exactly bike porn, so I don't know why it would command a 50%+ premium vs other bikes that have similar or better specs. Here is an example of a bike with specs as good or better than the Look you posted for $3199. Full Ultegra DI2 2x12, quality Reynolds AR41 DB carbon wheels (which I prefer over the ones on the Look), carbon bars (which the Look doesn't have). Similar geometry as well. Yes, Felt is not top tier, but still a respectable brand.
https://outlet.wheelandsprocket.c...4249423060 [wheelandsprocket.com]
See, you didn't have to wait for long...
You're a member of SD for what, almost 15 years... and you only have 169 rep points and have posted 5 deals, yourself! If you know so much about deals, then start posting some! Also, I'm sure you'll downplay your reputation points and tell me how you don't care... but you realize that a lot or rep is earned from not just posting deals, but posting helpful comments... ya know, not being a jerk, "bud." So, you can call me "defensive," in my response, but as I've pointed out, you come into this thread like some Japanese WWII kamikaze with your outlandish claims that like Oprah, online bike store are handing out sub 17 lb Ultegra Di2 12 speeds with all carbon cockpits with $2k carbon wheels for $3k!
So, now, let's move onto you "putting your money where your keyboard is." First of all, that Pinarello *is* a good deal, --but-- as I've pointed out - heavy Fulcrum aluminum wheels, lower end 105 drivetrain, and it's almost 20 pounds!!! The bike I posted should be LESS than 17 lbs. That's not even in the same class, "bud," and it's retail price is $6k... hmmm, who mentioned that price point for Fulcrum wheels and 105... know I heard it somewhere?
Okay, the second deal on the Felt you posted. First of all, that's not a Look Huez RS, but it is carbon fiber, with carbon handlebars, high quality and light Reynolds carbon rims with Ultegra Di2 12 sp, and it looks like the weight may be in the low 16's. Again, it's not a LOOK Huez RS, so different deal, and it's on clearance in a off color that not everyone is going to love, but I will admit --- for those specs, it's an absolute helluva deal. See... unlike you, I don't reflexively trash somebody else's post. You found a comparable bike that was in stock with many sizes avail, and the weight class and component selection is outstanding. It's so good, that I think you should make it your 6th post.
So, to wrap this up - if you don't like a deal, then fine, but you can't come in and say an Omega watch deal for 30% off sucks because you can buy a Swiss made Tissot for 70% less. One watch is an Omega and the other is a Tissot. If you want to trash the Omega deal, then provide a better price on an Omega. Otherwise, you can just say "Omegas are overprice IMO, and although this is a good deal on an Omega, I think this deal on a Tissot is better." See how non-confrontational that was? I mean, if you find an Omega for 50% off, then by all means, trash the 30% off deal... but that's not what happened here. You trashed a deal on a specific bike, and then (only after you were challenged) you offered some comparisons on *different* bike brands (the Pinarello deal not so great, the other Felt deal was very good - but on an off color). So, some future SD etiquette - and please post the Felt deal, I'll give it a thumbs up if you do.
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