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Synology NAS Enclosures: DS224+ 2-Bay $240, DS923+ 4-Bay

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Oct 8, 2024 12:50 AM
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EagerLake9615Oct 8, 2024 12:50 AM
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Quote from CTRFK8 :
yeah dont waste your money on this. Get a synology that has the ability to upgrade lan card using aftermarket parts.the 224+ might be alittle bit better than what you got.If i get this one it will mainly be used for cloud storage sharing files or syncing off devices ,, since i would be moving stuff off this synology 2 disk onto a real server that i can host locally. I would not recommend making unraid or even true nas open to the internet unless you know what you are doing. Synology is the best by far for anyone to setup a proper cloud with security. Keep your main servers off the WAN that host all your data. Other than that build a real server using unraid and make that into a plex server. You can still view photos from there off your LAN through the plex app which has 2 factor and pin numbers for each account.A 24 bay supermicro with a HBA card is like 500.00 a SFP+ 10GB card is like 30 bucksget unraid or true nas scale . I would start out with unraid since the community is more friendly on discord.
Yeah, you should totally get a 24 bay 10gbps setup to look at your photos lol
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Quote from CTRFK8 :
yeah dont waste your money on this. Get a synology that has the ability to upgrade lan card using aftermarket parts.
the 224+ might be alittle bit better than what you got.
If i get this one it will mainly be used for cloud storage sharing files or syncing off devices ,, since i would be moving stuff off this synology 2 disk onto a real server that i can host locally. I would not recommend making unraid or even true nas open to the internet unless you know what you are doing. Synology is the best by far for anyone to setup a proper cloud with security. Keep your main servers off the WAN that host all your data.

Other than that build a real server using unraid and make that into a plex server. You can still view photos from there off your LAN through the plex app which has 2 factor and pin numbers for each account.
A 24 bay supermicro with a HBA card is like 500.00 a SFP+ 10GB card is like 30 bucks
get unraid or true nas scale . I would start out with unraid since the community is more friendly on discord.
What do you mean a proper cloud set-up, but not expose the Nas to the Internet? If that's the case, data on cloud does not sync with local nas?
Oct 8, 2024 12:56 AM
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CTRFK8Oct 8, 2024 12:56 AM
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Quote from ThirstyCruz :
What's the point of 10gb for home network if most speed are sub gig? Trying to understand how it works
sure it opens up alot of bandwidth. For Iscsi , SMB, VMs , sharing files across the network etc.
1GB/s technology is about 24 years old now using CAT5e. Even then if this is all you have most routers now have 2.5GB/s ports and so do motherboards so why stick to 1GB/s? unless you are just managing photos and syncing. These type of units with 1GB/s are ripping off the consumer IMO. The only reason i would consider a synology is because of the Software DSM is very user friendly , especially when it comes to security and Synology updating the software to make it secure. I would say the software alone is worth 250 bucks.,

They just raised unraid software to 249.00 to attach unlimited storage devices and free os updates for life.
so basically you are getting the 2 bay hardware for free. I would not trust qnap, or terramaster which is a chinese company
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Oct 8, 2024 12:58 AM
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CTRFK8Oct 8, 2024 12:58 AM
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Quote from ThirstyCruz :
What do you mean a proper cloud set-up, but not expose the Nas to the Internet? If that's the case, data on cloud does not sync with local nas?
Having a hard time understanding can you elaborate what you are trying to say.
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Oct 8, 2024 1:06 AM
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CalmKite5270Oct 8, 2024 1:06 AM
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Idk, what happened to my post. But, it said something like this: Dude, you sound just like me. I bought the 220j and immediately regretted it. It's far too slow loading photos and videos and that's my main use. I was considering the 923+ or the 423+. Sort of settled on the 423+, just in case I wanted to setup a plex server some day. Your upgrades sound quite aggressive, was sort of hoping I wouldn't need to do all that, and that a native NAS would at least be better enough than what I have to not matter. But, maybe I need to go all the way like you're thinking. Let me know what you end up doing!
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Oct 8, 2024 1:09 AM
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CTRFK8Oct 8, 2024 1:09 AM
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Quote from ripplinghurst :
From the comments above it seems that this is too slow to store and backup photos and gopro videos?

My photos top out at 47.3 megapixels or 70MB. I want to browse them remotely and only load on my laptop the ones I plan to edit.

Is that doable or the network will be too slow?

Currently I am uskng two 16tb USB3.0 drives. One is writen on import for backup. I'm not happy with the speed.
You did not mention your upload speed if you were to be working remotely

Working with videos you want a unit that has at least 4 bays , using raid 5 with 10GB/s network. If you want to upload files to the unit faster install a NVME as a cache drive to move onto the array later which would give you around 350-550MB/s with enterprise drives

to solve all this i would look into a synology that just uses SSDs with a 10GB network card
but then again you have to have the upload speed to work remotely and your network needs to be 10GB/s and i recommend cat6a
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Oct 8, 2024 1:09 AM
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artibramuirOct 8, 2024 1:09 AM
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Quote from tiger_liem :
I have 918+, is it worth to upgrade now or just wait ?
Is it not doing something you want it to do? I have a 918+ and am perfectly happy with it for everything I need. It works fine as an NVR, for automatic backups, plus Homebridge, Plex, and a few other things. In the very rare event that I need to get a lot of data on or off faster than I can do over the network, USB transfer is plenty fast for me.

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Oct 8, 2024 1:22 AM
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Ride_The_SkyOct 8, 2024 1:22 AM
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Quote from tommytqt :
Stupid question. If i buy the 4 bays now but only use 2 bay. Will it be a good idea? Can i add more drives later without rebuilding the RAID set up again? I keep debating whether to get 2 bays or 4 bays. I am thinking about the cost to have this thing running 24/7 as well as the HD cost.

Also are they loud? I assume the 4 bays one has 2 fans on the back will be louder.

I only need it to store movies and watch them with Infuse, but mainly photo back up for the family.

Thank you for your advice.
Same here and yes you can do it. What's infuse, though?
Oct 8, 2024 1:24 AM
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Ride_The_SkyOct 8, 2024 1:24 AM
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Quote from espy :
A lot of this depends on your risk tolerance. If you start w/ 2 bays, that means either you have striping (both drives read/write together) or redundant (multiple ways to config, but basically you use half your storage for redundancy in some way).

Would not recommend striping with 2 drives, if 1 fails, the whole array crashes.
There are multiple RAID configs that you can do with redundancy, some require rebuilding, some don't. SHR is good but you sacrifice some storage when creating more than 1 storage pool. It's better than typical RAID arrays, but there is a trade off still, it's not perfect.
Ox don't know what striping is, but in my case I want to get 4 bay to use at home and I will leave 2 bay in the office. This way I can sync my 4 bay to 2 bay only specific folders this way I have off site backup. What do you think?
Oct 8, 2024 1:27 AM
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Ride_The_SkyOct 8, 2024 1:27 AM
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Quote from CTRFK8 :
just researched the 923+ and its a POS.

They rave about 500+MB/s speeds but good luck getting that at 1gbps.
I would not recommend any of these units at this price point.
also they are 2023 models.
Do better Synology!
Why is it POS?
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CTRFK8Oct 8, 2024 1:27 AM
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Quote from Ride_The_Sky :
Ox don't know what striping is, but in my case I want to get 4 bay to use at home and I will leave 2 bay in the office. This way I can sync my 4 bay to 2 bay only specific folders this way I have off site backup. What do you think?
what happens when your 2 bay runs out of space? What do you plan on backing up too? Striping is when you combine the speed of each hard drive in the array. If you get have say one enterprise drive that does 240MB/s and I am assuming you are using enterprise drives rated for a NAS and not some green drive , you would see roughly 500-600MB/s like the specs show on the synology 4 disk using a 10GB nic /lan. I am assuming you would use raid 5.
so make sure you buy the proprietary 10GB lan nic module as well because you will only see 125-150MB/s depending on what files are being transferred. Thats why i recommended SSD NAS solution to the guy above that does gopro video editing

i mentioned many examples why these synologys that only use 1GB/s are obsolete above in posts and should only be used for basic files and photos depending on your upload speed..
Last edited by CTRFK8 October 7, 2024 at 06:34 PM.
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Oct 8, 2024 1:30 AM
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Ride_The_SkyOct 8, 2024 1:30 AM
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Quote from Topher22 :
I have a DS220j (2x14tb, hard wired) and my main gripe is that it's very slow to load photos and browsing is a pain when the backup folder is large. I'm talking like 20 seconds to open a
That's really horrible. Did you check how quickly it loads on Lan? I want to replace smugmug especially since newer models have object and scene detection, it can replace Google photos. However if it takes too long they defeats the purpose. I don't care about privacy aspect with Google or iCloud but I don't want to reply on 3rd parties to access my own photos and videos.
Oct 8, 2024 1:31 AM
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Ride_The_SkyOct 8, 2024 1:31 AM
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Quote from CTRFK8 :
what happens when your 2 bay runs out of space? What do you plan on backing up too?
2 bay will be only for certain folders that I need to store remotely with a backup . I play to keep the 2 out of 4 bays for local movie storage only. The other 2 bays will mirror to 2 bay synology in the office.
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Oct 8, 2024 1:46 AM
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AnonyM8611Oct 8, 2024 1:46 AM
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Quote from davidneedham :
Not a stupid question at all! I've heard that it's always a good idea to have an empty bay or two available for future expansion. My understanding is that you just add the new drive, click button in the UI telling it what to do, and it starts assimilating it.

Check out SpaceRex on YouTube. He has a few beginner-focused videos and regularly mentions that filling up all the bays is a common mistake.
Hahaha filling up all bays is a common mistake. So what buy bigger drives to put in the holes you do use? Im going to check out this "space rex" guy. Done watched a couple of his videos.
That guy "spacerex" is an idiot. First one he is talking about westerdigital software on a synology nas showing warnings on drives if they are online for more than 3 years and if there is an issue you wouldnt know. You can set up different kinds of alerts. You dont have to use the WD software in the synology nas. Here is an even better one…. Synology wont actually let you use any drive without getting an its "an supported drive". Unless you buy the drives from synology. I have had 4 8 bay synology nas arrays. Currently running 1817 and 1821. Synology back when 4TB drives were around put 4TB seagate drives on the supported list. Mine kept dropping offline. Contacted them then they said it was only with a specific firmware that they didnt publish. Given that I was an enterprise storage engineer at the time for a large server manufacturer I got the firmware directly from seagate and force flashed it. (The real issue was too aggressive head parking timings.). Leave drives out? In a real enterprise environment they have drive blanks in to keep airflow correct. So keep the empty ones in. Or buy what you need. Leaving open slots…. Link me that video I would like to see his justifications. Maybe its because I come from an enterprise SAN design background but i dont agree … you should keep slots open. Waste of money. Buy what you need. Get wd or similar usb drives and take the drives out and put them in synology. They are usually enterprise drives. Currently running ~400TB using iscsi and NFS 4.1 on an Esx cluster. Mixing different drives sizes using shr isnt going to perform as well. And its a huge hassle to recover if it breaks. Ext4 i can rebuild a failed raidset at the command line. When you see the your volume has crashed for the first time… but the data is still there…. Most people have to blow it away and restore. Synology also takes functionality away with dsm upgrades. Nfs 4.1 was on the boxes then they removed it at a later release. (I use 4.1 with multipathing for my esx cluster.). The few times I have had issues I was able to fix it before their support could. Drives falling out of the raid set, scsi luns getting locked etc etc.
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