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expirediconian | Staff posted Oct 7, 2024 4:01 PM
Synology NAS Enclosures: DS224+ 2-Bay $240, DS923+ 4-Bay
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Check out SpaceRex on YouTube. He has a few beginner-focused videos and regularly mentions that filling up all the bays is a common mistake.
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the 224+ might be alittle bit better than what you got.
If i get this one it will mainly be used for cloud storage sharing files or syncing off devices ,, since i would be moving stuff off this synology 2 disk onto a real server that i can host locally. I would not recommend making unraid or even true nas open to the internet unless you know what you are doing. Synology is the best by far for anyone to setup a proper cloud with security. Keep your main servers off the WAN that host all your data.
Other than that build a real server using unraid and make that into a plex server. You can still view photos from there off your LAN through the plex app which has 2 factor and pin numbers for each account.
A 24 bay supermicro with a HBA card is like 500.00 a SFP+ 10GB card is like 30 bucks
get unraid or true nas scale . I would start out with unraid since the community is more friendly on discord.
1GB/s technology is about 24 years old now using CAT5e. Even then if this is all you have most routers now have 2.5GB/s ports and so do motherboards so why stick to 1GB/s? unless you are just managing photos and syncing. These type of units with 1GB/s are ripping off the consumer IMO. The only reason i would consider a synology is because of the Software DSM is very user friendly , especially when it comes to security and Synology updating the software to make it secure. I would say the software alone is worth 250 bucks.,
They just raised unraid software to 249.00 to attach unlimited storage devices and free os updates for life.
so basically you are getting the 2 bay hardware for free. I would not trust qnap, or terramaster which is a chinese company
My photos top out at 47.3 megapixels or 70MB. I want to browse them remotely and only load on my laptop the ones I plan to edit.
Is that doable or the network will be too slow?
Currently I am uskng two 16tb USB3.0 drives. One is writen on import for backup. I'm not happy with the speed.
Working with videos you want a unit that has at least 4 bays , using raid 5 with 10GB/s network. If you want to upload files to the unit faster install a NVME as a cache drive to move onto the array later which would give you around 350-550MB/s with enterprise drives
to solve all this i would look into a synology that just uses SSDs with a 10GB network card
but then again you have to have the upload speed to work remotely and your network needs to be 10GB/s and i recommend cat6a
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Also are they loud? I assume the 4 bays one has 2 fans on the back will be louder.
I only need it to store movies and watch them with Infuse, but mainly photo back up for the family.
Thank you for your advice.
Would not recommend striping with 2 drives, if 1 fails, the whole array crashes.
There are multiple RAID configs that you can do with redundancy, some require rebuilding, some don't. SHR is good but you sacrifice some storage when creating more than 1 storage pool. It's better than typical RAID arrays, but there is a trade off still, it's not perfect.
They rave about 500+MB/s speeds but good luck getting that at 1gbps.
I would not recommend any of these units at this price point.
also they are 2023 models.
Do better Synology!
so make sure you buy the proprietary 10GB lan nic module as well because you will only see 125-150MB/s depending on what files are being transferred. Thats why i recommended SSD NAS solution to the guy above that does gopro video editing
i mentioned many examples why these synologys that only use 1GB/s are obsolete above in posts and should only be used for basic files and photos depending on your upload speed..
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Check out SpaceRex on YouTube. He has a few beginner-focused videos and regularly mentions that filling up all the bays is a common mistake.
That guy "spacerex" is an idiot. First one he is talking about westerdigital software on a synology nas showing warnings on drives if they are online for more than 3 years and if there is an issue you wouldnt know. You can set up different kinds of alerts. You dont have to use the WD software in the synology nas. Here is an even better one…. Synology wont actually let you use any drive without getting an its "an supported drive". Unless you buy the drives from synology. I have had 4 8 bay synology nas arrays. Currently running 1817 and 1821. Synology back when 4TB drives were around put 4TB seagate drives on the supported list. Mine kept dropping offline. Contacted them then they said it was only with a specific firmware that they didnt publish. Given that I was an enterprise storage engineer at the time for a large server manufacturer I got the firmware directly from seagate and force flashed it. (The real issue was too aggressive head parking timings.). Leave drives out? In a real enterprise environment they have drive blanks in to keep airflow correct. So keep the empty ones in. Or buy what you need. Leaving open slots…. Link me that video I would like to see his justifications. Maybe its because I come from an enterprise SAN design background but i dont agree … you should keep slots open. Waste of money. Buy what you need. Get wd or similar usb drives and take the drives out and put them in synology. They are usually enterprise drives. Currently running ~400TB using iscsi and NFS 4.1 on an Esx cluster. Mixing different drives sizes using shr isnt going to perform as well. And its a huge hassle to recover if it breaks. Ext4 i can rebuild a failed raidset at the command line. When you see the your volume has crashed for the first time… but the data is still there…. Most people have to blow it away and restore. Synology also takes functionality away with dsm upgrades. Nfs 4.1 was on the boxes then they removed it at a later release. (I use 4.1 with multipathing for my esx cluster.). The few times I have had issues I was able to fix it before their support could. Drives falling out of the raid set, scsi luns getting locked etc etc.
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