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Depends on your situation. Do you need another HDMI input? Want slightly more power? Does "Made in Japan" carry weight for you?
My take is that the 3800 is the "Slickdeal's darling" because it's 90-95% of the 4800 w/o the additional hundreds of dollars (they even share the same DAC and have the same Dirac functionality)!
Good old Amir. The differences between modern DACs are well below the threshold of human hearing. Test benches though can reveal some differences, plus I'm sure there are differences in the noise floor, etc., between different individual units. It's probably about the absolute last thing you should worry about while building out your system. Different speakers, subs, displays, etc., are where you should worry about individual performance, along with your room, treatments, etc. Those things will absolutely make a very noticeable difference. DAC's maybe your dog can tell the difference.
Price keeps fluctuating, at $981.60 right now. Don't forget discover has $10off$75 (ymmv) and 5% back. Alternatively amex has 40%off up to $40 (again ymmv)
Price keeps fluctuating, at $981.60 right now. Don't forget discover has $10off$75 (ymmv) and 5% back. Alternatively amex has 40%off up to $40 (again ymmv)
They are probably matching Best Buy price of $979.
They also keep fluctuating their prices also.
Based on a personal warranty-related experience with terminal degradation due to logic board expansion & contraction under heat stress, Denon does not stand behind their products. Would recommend Marantz or Pioneer instead.
Edit: Informed by intelligent SD'ers that Marantz and Denon are owned by the same company, FWIW.
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This is tempting. Any reason to get a 4800h over this?
Depends on your situation. Do you need another HDMI input? Want slightly more power? Does "Made in Japan" carry weight for you?
My take is that the 3800 is the "Slickdeal's darling" because it's 90-95% of the 4800 w/o the additional hundreds of dollars (they even share the same DAC and have the same Dirac functionality)!
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Based on a personal warranty-related experience with terminal degradation due to logic board expansion & contraction under heat stress, Denon does not stand behind their products. Would recommend Marantz or Pioneer instead.
Marantz and Denon have the same owner (Masimo)!
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Based on a personal warranty-related experience with terminal degradation due to logic board expansion & contraction under heat stress, Denon does not stand behind their products. Would recommend Marantz or Pioneer instead.
They were different companies at one time but a wave of consolidation over the past decade plus in the large audio brands has drastically changed the landscape.
This is tempting. Any reason to get a 4800h over this?
the 4800 is a better receiver, it doesn't have the design flaws, but at $300+ it's harder to justify.
"Conclusions
I had high hopes going into this review thinking the company had seen the advantage its superior objective measurements in the past and would try to capitalize on them. Sadly, the reverse seems to be true with the DAC section taking a large step backward. Considering that the 3800 costs $500 more than 3700H, this is very surprising to me. Yes, inflation has a lot to do with that but surely the eye needed to be focused on making sure they at least met the same level of performance as last generation.
The good news is that the amplifier seems to be same design as last generation and has only taken a small hit.
Denon had been my "goto" recommendation for AVRs and even AVPs. When anyone asked me about either, I would just say "get a Denon AVR." While subjectively the performance of this new generation may be similar, I can't accept the regression in objective measured performance.
I picked up the LX 805 about 3 weeks ago when BB had it down to $1500. Is it worth swapping the 805 for this? I wanted 4 discrete subwoofer channels for my HT which this provides. The 805 has 2 pairs of subwoofer channels (not really a deal breaker)
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the 4800 is a better receiver, it doesn't have the design flaws, but at $300+ it's harder to justify.
"Conclusions
I had high hopes going into this review thinking the company had seen the advantage its superior objective measurements in the past and would try to capitalize on them. Sadly, the reverse seems to be true with the DAC section taking a large step backward. Considering that the 3800 costs $500 more than 3700H, this is very surprising to me. Yes, inflation has a lot to do with that but surely the eye needed to be focused on making sure they at least met the same level of performance as last generation.
The good news is that the amplifier seems to be same design as last generation and has only taken a small hit.
Denon had been my "goto" recommendation for AVRs and even AVPs. When anyone asked me about either, I would just say "get a Denon AVR." While subjectively the performance of this new generation may be similar, I can't accept the regression in objective measured performance.
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They also keep fluctuating their prices also.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/deno...lsrc=aw.
Edit: Informed by intelligent SD'ers that Marantz and Denon are owned by the same company, FWIW.
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My take is that the 3800 is the "Slickdeal's darling" because it's 90-95% of the 4800 w/o the additional hundreds of dollars (they even share the same DAC and have the same Dirac functionality)!
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"Conclusions
I had high hopes going into this review thinking the company had seen the advantage its superior objective measurements in the past and would try to capitalize on them. Sadly, the reverse seems to be true with the DAC section taking a large step backward. Considering that the 3800 costs $500 more than 3700H, this is very surprising to me. Yes, inflation has a lot to do with that but surely the eye needed to be focused on making sure they at least met the same level of performance as last generation.
The good news is that the amplifier seems to be same design as last generation and has only taken a small hit.
Denon had been my "goto" recommendation for AVRs and even AVPs. When anyone asked me about either, I would just say "get a Denon AVR." While subjectively the performance of this new generation may be similar, I can't accept the regression in objective measured performance.
It is with much sadness that I cannot recommend the Denon AVR-X3800H."
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It is with much sadness that I cannot recommend the Denon AVR-X3800H."
https://www.audiosciencereview.co...iew.38574/ [audiosciencereview.com]
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"Conclusions
I had high hopes going into this review thinking the company had seen the advantage its superior objective measurements in the past and would try to capitalize on them. Sadly, the reverse seems to be true with the DAC section taking a large step backward. Considering that the 3800 costs $500 more than 3700H, this is very surprising to me. Yes, inflation has a lot to do with that but surely the eye needed to be focused on making sure they at least met the same level of performance as last generation.
The good news is that the amplifier seems to be same design as last generation and has only taken a small hit.
Denon had been my "goto" recommendation for AVRs and even AVPs. When anyone asked me about either, I would just say "get a Denon AVR." While subjectively the performance of this new generation may be similar, I can't accept the regression in objective measured performance.
It is with much sadness that I cannot recommend the Denon AVR-X3800H."
https://www.audioscienc
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