I found various online retailers are selling
Goodman e-Series - 12k BTU Cooling + Heating - Wall Mounted Air Conditioning System - 18.0 SEER2
for less than $400
or similar 9k, 18k btu mini split system for highly discounted price.
Goodman used to be an entry level bland for HVAC system in the USA but bought by Daikin (the largest HVAC company in Japan) about 10 years ago. Since then, the products qualities, aftermarket services are getting better?
Mini-split system is still not so poplar in the vast majorities of the USA but very poplar in the rest of the world, Asia, EU, etc. The system is similar to the typical car HVAC system that comes with 2 main parts, compress to exchange heat to cool then transfer the energy with refrigerant (used to be Freon, 134a, but now 410A) to the interior coil (indoor unit) that convert back to cool or warm air.
Depend of the system the energy efficient level are varies but there will be no combustible gas and environmental friendly. Mini split system will be the future of the most HVAC system in the US sooner or later due to it energy efficiency. In the state of CA, many cities are no longer allow to have conventional gas furnace for new homes and heat pump or mini-split are the new options for those.
Mini-split is relatively easy to install for existing houses as you don't need to run new air ducts but just skinny refrigerants pipes and wire.
Power requirements are 120v or 240v. If you select 120v unit, the initial installation cost might be less but the running costs would be higher and you will not get a powerful unit but smaller 9k or 12k or less small units only. I would recommend to go with 240v
Most people might imagine similar idea as those windows units those are noisy but not efficient to run and also high electricity bills, but mini-split system is NOT like window units.
Mini-split system is very quiet and much more efficient than windows units.
The cons for mini-slit would be
1. not so poplar in the USA (and many people don't know about it and scare it is same as window unit, - noisy, ugly, not efficient, not air-tight, high running costs)
2. the indoor unit will be visible
3. since it is not yet popular, the pro installation cost would be high
4. required special refrigerant (410A)
5. most people have negative image to mini-split system as current product line-ups are by not so well known, China or start-up brands in the USA and indeed those units might not last as good as Rheem/Goodman/Mitsubishi/LG/Samsung/Panasonic, etc.
This is just my personal opinions but I would like to avoid those eBay not so know companies TLC, costway, and I will never buy electronics from AliExpress tumi that might cause fires and also life safety without proper formal UL certificates...
the sets are online for the indoor/outdoor units but no connecting pipes and wires and other misc. items are included so you need to spend another $40 ~ 100 for that. Typical kits usually run from 16 ft to long one would be 50 ft? Depend on where you install those units.
For instance below. I was suspicious before I received the item but indeed I got the item and it is a real Goodman/Daikin product directly shipped from Daikin wearhouse in TX.
https://voomisupply.com/products/...8YQAvD_BwE
Beside above some other online retailers are selling for $400
Below is 11.10.2024 update (somehow, retail site url update once in a while, so link break but if you google with key words "goodman mini split system 9000, 12000 or 18000 btu" you should be able to find below deals.
I see 9k unit at $279 or $368 (be careful! - the $287 at minisplitsystemsdirect.com is outside condenser only, not the whole system with indoor unit)
https://voomisupply.com/products/...yDEALw_wcB
https://heatandcool.com/products/...2zEALw_wcB
12k $400, $587
https://heatandcool.com/products/...uCEALw_wcB
https://www.ecomfort.com/Goodman-...sZEALw_wcB
12k ebay $476
https://www.ebay.com/itm/27641050...p_homepage
or
18k unit at $679, 699, 689, 799
https://voomisupply.com/products/...m9EALw_wcB
https://heatandcool.com/products/...c4EALw_wcB
https://minisplitsystemsdirect.co...7aEALw_wcB
https://www.acdirect.com/goodman-...B1EALw_wcB
https://www.sylvane.com/goodman-e...E6EALw_wcB
18k ebay $647
https://www.ebay.com/itm/27641052...R5bh5vniZA
but those prices are higher than I originally quoted but still good deal than the Home Depot 24k Pioneer for $1398
the best way to get line set is on ebay with wire together
but after the hurricane they jacked up price average $20 ~30 per sets.
For Goodman, 18k unit required 1/2" copper and 9k and 12k use 3/8". I think if you are not in hurry the ebay price might come down.
I need to buy one of those "50 Feet Install Kit For Mini Split Heat Pump Systems 1/4" - 3/8" Dia." but they are now asking for $100~/set vs it was less than 80 before.
planning to cut this down to half to use for 9k and 12k set.
I bought 50 Feet Install Kit For Mini Split Heat Pump Systems 1/4" - 1/2" set for 18k
You can find tons of info on youtube for DIY mini split and
I bought my own
1. Vacuum Pump ($60) amazon
2. RT201B Nylog Gasket/Thread Sealant ($15) amazon
3. Liquid-Tight Conduit 50 ft and 10 Pieces of Connector Kit, Electrical Conduit 1/2 50ft w/UL Certification, Flexible Conduit with 5 Straight and 5 90-Degree Conduit Connector Fittings ($30) amazon
4. Woods 100' 12/3 MC Alum Cable ($100) amazon
5. AC Manifold Gauge Set 3-Way Fit R22 R134a R404A R410A Refrigeration Charging ($35) ebay
6. gauge adapter ($3) ebay
7. 60 Amp Non-Fusible Metallic AC Disconnect ($13 - at local HD)
8. 410A (just in case)
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Goodman e-Series - 12k BTU Cooling + Heating - Wall Mounted Air Conditioning System - 18.0 SEER2
for less than $400
the sets are online for the indoor/outdoor units but no connecting pipes and wires and other misc. items are included so you need to spend another $40 ~ 100 for that. Typical kits usually run from 16 ft to long one would be 50 ft? Depend on where you install those units.
For instance below. I was suspicious before I received the item but indeed I got the item and it is a real Goodman/Daikin product directly shipped from Daikin in TX.
https://voomisupply.com/products/...8YQAvD_BwE
Beside above another online retail is selling for $400
two - 12k unit from Voomi ($334)
one - 18k unit on eBay seller "wholesalestorecom" ($650)
one - 9k unit from "minisplitsystemsdirect.com" for $270 (they had 5% off coupon) now $287, Voomi ($280)
total 4 units for $1,600, total BTU 49,000 BTU! great deal!!
Those units are basic model and no wifi but who cares? 18 SEER 2
if you do really want to have wifi control, I guess you can buy aftermarket remote for that.
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I called their customer service and they were fine with me for trucking #, payment (2nd order was shipped dif. address), etc.
I haven't got any issue with the actual product so that part is unknown. - FYI
I called their customer service and they were fine with me for trucking #, payment (2nd order was shipped dif. address), etc.
I haven't got any issue with the actual product so that part is unknown. - FYI
The prices are good, But like I said I know nothing about this company It's just really odd that I got this warning pop up when I looked at their website and it's very rare that I ever see this pop up warning so I'm going to pass.
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you can buy with paypal or also your credit card company have back up your online order purchases.
I am not their Sales rep. so if you don't feel comfortable just avoid.
I am happy with my purchase, so wanted to share for someone who might be also looking for a good deal.
you can buy with paypal or also your credit card company have back up your online order purchases.
I am not their Sales rep. so if you don't feel comfortable just avoid.
I am happy with my purchase, so wanted to share for someone who might be also looking for a good deal.
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I guess the 12,000 btu units might be sold out for now?
I see 9k unit at $279, 288, or $368
https://voomisupply.com/products/...haEALw_wcB
https://minisplitsystem
https://heatandcool.com/products/...k3EALw_wcB
12k $499, $587
https://www.sylvane.com/goodman-e...aeEALw_wcB
https://www.ecomfort.co
12k ebay $476
https://www.ebay.com/itm/27641050...R7Cr
12k original $334 - sold out
https://voomisupply.com/products/...8YQAvD_BwE
or
18k unit at $679, 699, 791, 799
https://voomisupply.com/products/...-KEALw_wcB
https://heatandcool.com/products/...ygEALw_wcB
https://www.ecomfort.co
https://www.sylvane.com/goodman-e...rJEALw_wcB
18k ebay $647
https://www.ebay.com/itm/27641052...R7Cr
but those prices are higher than I originally quoted but still good deal than the Home Depot 24k Pioneer for $1398
the best way to get line set is on ebay with wire together
but after the hurricane they jacked up price average $20 ~30 per sets.
For Goodman, 18k unit required 1/2" copper and 9k and 12k use 3/8". I think if you are not in hurry the ebay price might come down.
I need to buy one of those "50 Feet Install Kit For Mini Split Heat Pump Systems 1/4" - 3/8" Dia." but they are now asking for $100~/set vs it was less than 80 before.
planning to cut this down to half to use for 9k and 12k set.
I bought 50 Feet Install Kit For Mini Split Heat Pump Systems 1/4" - 1/2" set for 18k
You can find tons of info on youtube for DIY mini split and
I bought my own
1. Vacuum Pump ($60) amazon
2. RT201B Nylog Gasket/Thread Sealant ($15) amazon
3. Liquid-Tight Conduit 50 ft and 10 Pieces of Connector Kit, Electrical Conduit 1/2 50ft w/UL Certification, Flexible Conduit with 5 Straight and 5 90-Degree Conduit Connector Fittings ($30) amazon
4. Woods 100' 12/3 MC Alum Cable ($100) amazon
5. AC Manifold Gauge Set 3-Way Fit R22 R134a R404A R410A Refrigeration Charging ($35) ebay
6. gauge adapter ($3) ebay
7. 60 Amp Non-Fusible Metallic AC Disconnect ($13 - at local HD)
8. 410A (just in case)
If you are in SoCal, you might be able to loan from me the set (I am in NB)
I guess the 12,000 btu units might be sold out for now?
I see 9k unit at $279, 288, or $368
https://voomisupply.com/products/...haEALw_wcB
https://minisplitsystem
https://heatandcool.com/products/...k3EALw_wcB
12k $499, $587
https://www.sylvane.com/goodman-e...aeEALw_wcB
https://www.ecomfort.co
12k ebay $476
https://www.ebay.com/itm/27641050...R7Cr
12k original $334 - sold out
https://voomisupply.com/products/...8YQAvD_BwE
or
18k unit at $679, 699, 791, 799
https://voomisupply.com/products/...-KEALw_wcB
https://heatandcool.com/products/...ygEALw_wcB
https://www.ecomfort.co
https://www.sylvane.com/goodman-e...rJEALw_wcB
18k ebay $647
https://www.ebay.com/itm/27641052...R7Cr
but those prices are higher than I originally quoted but still good deal than the Home Depot 24k Pioneer for $1398
the best way to get line set is on ebay with wire together
but after the hurricane they jacked up price average $20 ~30 per sets.
For Goodman, 18k unit required 1/2" copper and 9k and 12k use 3/8". I think if you are not in hurry the ebay price might come down.
I need to buy one of those "50 Feet Install Kit For Mini Split Heat Pump Systems 1/4" - 3/8" Dia." but they are now asking for $100~/set vs it was less than 80 before.
planning to cut this down to half to use for 9k and 12k set.
I bought 50 Feet Install Kit For Mini Split Heat Pump Systems 1/4" - 1/2" set for 18k
You can find tons of info on youtube for DIY mini split and
I bought my own
1. Vacuum Pump ($60) amazon
2. RT201B Nylog Gasket/Thread Sealant ($15) amazon
3. Liquid-Tight Conduit 50 ft and 10 Pieces of Connector Kit, Electrical Conduit 1/2 50ft w/UL Certification, Flexible Conduit with 5 Straight and 5 90-Degree Conduit Connector Fittings ($30) amazon
4. Woods 100' 12/3 MC Alum Cable ($100) amazon
5. AC Manifold Gauge Set 3-Way Fit R22 R134a R404A R410A Refrigeration Charging ($35) ebay
6. gauge adapter ($3) ebay
7. 60 Amp Non-Fusible Metallic AC Disconnect ($13 - at local HD)
8. 410A (just in case)
If you are in SoCal, you might be able to loan from me the set (I am in NB)
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How's many amps does this draw? I have not been able to find this for these split units. Do manufacturers not spec that?
Background: The one concern, there's only a rudimentary 120V circuit that seems to daisy chain on the circuit of another room. So almost certainly need to run a new wire for 230V. To avoid that I could also consider using a 120V device three, too, it would be critical to understand what the load of a unit is and none seem to readily specify this?
Not an HVAC expert, do apologies if this is a stupid question with an obvious answer. Thanks so much for your help!
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