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expired Posted by TealLocket127 • Nov 16, 2024
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COSTCO BLACK FRIDAY: Microsoft Surface Laptop 13.8" Copilot+ PC Qualcomm Snapdragon X Plus (10 core) 2304 x 1536 Touchscreen - Windows 11 - 16GB RAM- 1TB SSD $899.99
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There's no real value proposition to Snapdragon unless the prices are much much lower, which it's not. For example, here's an Intel Lunar Lake model to consider:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/ASUS-V...7447569796
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In contrast, there are increasingly lower-priced Snapdragon Windows platforms coming out which have competitive arguments in their favor when considered against similar x86 systems in the same price range (see here for just one example from this year).
Good luck!
Jon
I have yet to find a program that doesn't run and many are already compatible at the code level. The biggest issue would be the games, a lot of them run without issue, but they're similar speed to the Intel integrated GPUs unless the game is recompiled for ARM.
By far though, the best thing about these are the battery life, as these are similar to MacBook Air in run time.
However, if you want gaming as well, then look at the Ryzen AI 370/375 based laptops as the 890M in that just buries the intel offerings and the CPU is very efficient without sacrificing performance.
There's no real value proposition to Snapdragon unless the prices are much much lower, which it's not. For example, here's an Intel Lunar Lake model to consider:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/ASUS-V...7447569796
For the vast majority of people snapdragon will work just fine. Most people use their PCs like Chromebook anyways. If your gaming (most anti cheat software doesn't run) or doing video rendering, there are some apps that have both not had native arm64 versions compiled and don't work well or at all in prism but those are getting smaller.
https://www.theverge.co
If there's one critical app you need for your workflow, of course that's a deal breaker. But to say the platform has poor app compatibility is a bit of a stretch.
For the vast majority of people snapdragon will work just fine. Most people use their PCs like Chromebook anyways. If your gaming (most anti cheat software doesn't run) or doing video rendering, there are some apps that have both not had native arm64 versions compiled and don't work well or at all in prism but those are getting smaller.
https://www.theverge.com/2024/11/...ism-update [theverge.com]
If there's one critical app you need for your workflow, of course that's a deal breaker. But to say the platform has poor app compatibility is a bit of a stretch.
For everyone else, there are plenty of apps that run in emulation or won't run at all. Personally, I'm not insterested in spending $1000 on a laptop where my apps don't run natively. When I got my first MacBook Pro M1 Pro, I wanted nothing to do with Rosetta and ensured that the apps I put on my MBP were native Apple Silicon.
Some day, if manufacturers see a demand to recompile their printer drivers, VPN's, etc., to work natively, then maybe Snapdragon will be viable. But as many are cautious, they try and return, and prices keep sinking on the products, that doesn't seem like a lot of motivation to buy one or for developers to embrace it. I won't even bring up the topic of Qualcomm losing their ARM license...
Instead of asking about app compatibility, I'd ask what is the advantage of this technology over the latest Intel chips and then make a decision.
Additionally, the app most concerning to me is Citrix Workspace and from googling, seems it work but only in a compatibility mode. My concern here is I don't what the implications are. Will running in a compatibility mode mean slower speeds, reduced functionality, etc? Would love if someone more knowledgeable or with some insight could chime in on that.
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The really painful part is that where this kicks in isn't always crystal clear, as would be the case if Microsoft were pushing toward some kind of universal compatibility like when Apple has made clear transitions (68k to PowerPC, PowerPC to x86, and more recently x86 to ARM). To Microsoft's credit, it's amazing that any of this works as well as it does (see examples here [pcmag.com]).
Otherwise read up and, should you consider your usage to involve edge cases like known applications outside the ARM-development area of focus, maybe keep watching from the sidelines for now(?).
https://www.theregister
Good luck!
Jon
I would have no issue picking this laptop up now.
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most people don't install native apps, its either saas or the apps already work on windows arm.
that said, if you need compatibility, this isn't it. check out https://www.worksonwoa.
keep in mind, even if it works, if it is emulated, the battery hit is noticeable.
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/this-one-google-app-is-finally-here-for-qualcomm-snapdr... [windowscentral.com]
There's no real value proposition to Snapdragon unless the prices are much much lower, which it's not. For example, here's an Intel Lunar Lake model to consider:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/ASUS-V...7447569796 [walmart.com]
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As others have stated, the Microsoft Surface is the Apple Macbook of windows laptops. Build quality is exceptional, and I have used many different brands of laptops (I am an Electrical Engineer that designs computers and a former IT guy), and few if any can match the build quality of the Surface laptop.