Acer via eBay has
Acer Predator Helios 16 Laptop (Certified Refurbished, PH16-71-93FR)
w/ 16GB RAM + 2-Year Allstate Warranty for $1655.99 - 20% when you apply coupon code
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$1324.79.
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Specs:
- 16" QHD+ (2560x1600, WQXGA+) 16:10.
- 240Hz 3ms, 500-nits Peak Brightness, 100% DCI-P3, DisplayHDR, NVIDIA Advanced Optimus & G-SYNC, IPS Display
- Intel i9-13900HX 24-Core/32-Threads 5.4GHz Processor (13th Gen)
- 16GB (1x 16GB) or 32GB (2x16GB) SO-DIMM DDR5 Memory
- 1TB M.2 PCIe 4.0 NVMe Solid State Drive SSD
- NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 12GB GDDR6 GPU
- Intel Killer WiFi 6E AX1675 + Bluetooth 5.1
- Lithium Ion Battery (90W)
- RGB Backlit Keyboard w/ Precision Corning Gorilla Glass Touchpad
- 90Whr Battery
- Windows 11 Home
- Ports:
- 2x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C (w/ DisplayPort, Thunderbolt 4, USB charging 5 V)
- 2x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-A
- 1x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A
- 1x HDMI 2.1 with HDCP Support
- 1x RJ-45
No Longer Available:
- Acer via eBay has Acer Predator Helios 16 Laptop (Good - Refurbished, PH16-71-948L) w/ 32GB RAM + 1-Year Allstate Warranty for $1655 - 20% when you apply coupon code BESTOFBRANDS at checkout = $1324. Shipping is free.
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The mobile 4080 is essentially a desktop rtx 4070. This is why it has 12GB of ram. Performance-wise, mobile 4080 has nowhere near the power and thermal headroom of a desktop gpu. Fortunately, Nvidia's design & TSMC manufacturing process = very efficient chips, and the end result in mobile form are surprisingly close to their desktop counterparts. Mobile rtx 4080 performance varies depending on the designs by Acer/Asus/Lenovo/etc, but roughly approximates a 4070 Super with weaker 1% lows (lack of clock speed).
Thin laptops like Asus Zephyrus and Zenbooks are often given less power or clock speed to the cpu, gpu, or both and have worse performance. Meanwhile thick tanks like this deal or huge 18" desktop-replacement laptops often have the best performance (or at least better cooling). This 16" Helios is on the upper-end of performance, but Acer in general seems like they've spent most of the past 2-3 years trailing Asus and Lenovo laptops on design and/or software. Can't say Acer isn't trying though as I think they updated this laptop like 3x in the 4-5 years. That kind of competition has been great for us consumers and probably explains at least part of why they fire-sale this laptop to get rid of it.
I CANCELLED MY ORDER ON 32GB because 16GB had two year warranty and was Certified refurbished which apparently is Like new compared to the 32Gb version which only had 1 year and is the lowest tier of reburbished on ebay 16GB of ram is $40 the extra year of warranty is worth it for me
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Are the two ports Thunderbolt 4 or not? Appreciate some help here.
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Does the intel bug issue affect mobile as well?
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Summarize the findings regarding the impact of the Intel bug on mobile
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Intel has stated that the instability issues affecting its 13th and 14th generation Core desktop processors do not extend to their mobile counterparts. However, there are conflicting reports and some uncertainty around this claim.
Intel's Official Statement
Intel has officially denied that the mobile processors are affected by the same bug as the desktop chips. According to Intel:"Based on our in-depth analysis of the reported Intel Core 13/14 Gen desktop processor instability issues, Intel has determined that mobile products are not exposed to the same issue. The symptoms being reported on 13/14 Gen mobile systems – including system hangs and crashes – are common symptoms stemming from a broad range of potential software and hardware issues."
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Intel maintains that any instability reports on mobile processors are likely due to other common software and hardware issues, not the specific voltage bug affecting desktop CPUs
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Conflicting Reports
Despite Intel's stance, some developers and users have reported experiencing similar issues with mobile processors:
- Matthew Cassells, founder of Alderon Games, stated that while laptop crashes were less frequent than desktop ones, they still occurred "in the exact same way as the desktop parts"
- Cassells reported observing these crashes on laptops from various manufacturers, including Razer, MSI, and Asus
- He also mentioned that crash reporting data for his game showed "a huge amount of laptops that could be having issues"
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There are some factors to consider regarding this situation:
- The Raptor Lake and Raptor Lake Refresh HX series mobile processors share similar die configurations with their desktop counterparts, which could potentially make them susceptible to similar issues
- Mobile processors typically operate under stricter TDP guidelines and require less voltage than desktop processors, which might make instability issues less common or noticeable
- Intel has stated that other processor lines, including the 12th Gen Core desktop and mobile variants, the new Meteor Lake Core Ultra Series, and the lower-spec Core i3 and i5 from the 13th and 14th generations, are not impacted by this issue
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While Intel maintains that the mobile processors are not affected by the same bug as the desktop chips, there are conflicting reports from some developers and users. The situation remains somewhat unclear, and users experiencing issues with their Intel-powered laptops are encouraged to contact their system manufacturers for assistance
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I know that's a superior machine but the price difference is pretty wide. Wondering if I should cancel and grab this instead... I really don't like refurbs generally but this is a very slick deal.
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It is big, it is heavy, it is loud as hell, it has no battery life and it gets hot as hell.
And...I absolutely love the thing! I use it strictly for gaming and omg it brings me such childlike joy to go through every single graphics setting and max them all out!
I was considering getting something with a 4090 in it...but that was going to cost me $2,200+. I was also afraid I'd buy this model, just for something much better to go on sale at this price soon after...but that hasn't really happened.
I've been extremely happy with this beast and the price I paid!
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