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Covert Instruments Black Friday Sale: Genesis Lock Pick Set

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Covert Instruments is hosting their Black Friday Sale and offering select Lock Pick Sets on sale listed below. Shipping starts at ~$5 depending on location/state, otherwise, free shipping on orders $150 or more.

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Yeah, it can be a tricky subject. They fall into the same category as crow bars and bolt cutters in many instances. They can potentially be considered burglary tools, but perceived intent is often key. For instance, if you're caught with them while wandering around a warehouse district at 3 AM, that could be a real problem. However, simply possessing them isn't generally an issue and they can be a very handy tool and long as you're using them for legitimate purposes (you or friends lost a key to a lock, bought an old desk with no key, etc). I would probably suggest keeping these at home in a toolbox (or maybe the spare tire / tool cubby of a car) rather than something you bring everywhere. Carrying them on your person at all times probably isn't a great idea.

Here's a site with some general info about the legality broken down by state …

https://toool.us/lockpicking-laws/

And anyone really worried about carrying something like this might want to stick with a pair of paper clips.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lQJlWmR1Ko
For those getting the Learn Lockpicking Bundle, you can use the coupon code LEARNLOCKPICKING5 for an additional $5 this kit making its total $45 rather than $50.
He's a lawyer whose hobby is lockpicking. The guy's a youtuber and has been around for years, his channel mostly shows what poor protection locks have. He's singlehandedly made me realize what an absolute joke "Masterlock" is and has been an excellent resource for finding locks I want to use to protect valuables. As for legality, no, lockpicking tools aren't illegal in most parts of the world. A lot of them aren't even much more than a thin piece of metal, which really says a lot about how bad many locks are.

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This is the ultimate Slickdeal because with these, EVERY Christmas gift is actually Free. YMMV
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I highly recommend Learn Lockpicking Bundle for anyone just getting into locksport. This is the exact kit that is sold at security conferences everywhere, and also found at lockpick communities within security conferences. A single lock cylinder of the type included, is typically ~$30 on its own and would not be pre-drilled so that you can re-pin it to learn on.

LEARNLOCKPICKING5 for another $5 off that kit makes it a steal. I'd be in for one if I didn't already have two =)
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What a steal..
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edit responded to the wrong post and read the wrong state
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Thank you. Picked up the Covert Companion and Turning Tool Expansion Pack after years of watching his videos. Least I could do and I'm excited to give picking a try.
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Quote from VaultTec :
TN as well : (g) No person who is not licensed under this act shall possess, use, sell, or offer to sell any code book, lock picking tool, manipulation key, try-out key, safe opening tool, or car opening tool.
If you read the linked page and also google about Tennessee Code
Title 62 - PROFESSIONS, BUSINESSES AND TRADES (§§ 62-1-101 — 62-76-203)
Chapter 11


It has been repealed as stated in https://toool.us/lockpicking-laws/

https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn...7-2021.pdf
Pursuant to Senate Bill 0012 and House Bill 0009 enacted into law by Governor Bill Lee on May 27, 2021, the Tennessee Locksmith Licensing Act of 2006, codified in Tennessee Code Annotated, Title 62, Chapter 11, is repealed effective May 27, 2021. Therefore, as ofMay 27, 2021, the State of Tennessee will no longer regulate locksmiths, locksmith apprentices, or locksmith companies. Licenses from the Tennessee Department of Commerce and Insurance will no longer be required to operate as a locksmith, a locksmith apprentice, or a locksmith company and the Department of Commerce and Insurance will no longer have the authority and jurisdiction to discipline any individuals, entities, or companies for operating without a license or for otherwise violating Title 62, Chapter 11.
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Quote from LavenderPickle7682 :
Do whatever you want buddy. I don't care. I won't be caught with lockpicks in 2024 America, that's for sure!
Kiddo, calm down.

https://worldpopulationreview.com...s-by-state

"Lock-picking tools are available and legal in the United States. In the majority of U.S. states and the District of Columbia, lock picking is declared legal by specific legal statutes. Even in these states, however, the person lock picking must show benign intent.​"

So.....don't be lock picking outside of a jewelry store (that you do not own) at 3AM and you should be fine.
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"Lockpicking Lawyer"? What sort of nonsense is that?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/U...igLoZOh6FQ

Only 4.5 MILLION subscribers. Perhaps learn a little bit about something before ranting like you are the de facto authority Wink

And yes, many states / municipalities do have a "burglary tools" statute however there tends to be a requirement to show intent for that secondary charge to be added. Pretty much anything can be considered a "burglary tool" to include common items such as a hammer, screwdriver, etc....is almost everyone walking out of Home Depot suddenly a felon because they bought a tool that could, in theory, be used to break into something? EEK!

So before you go chastising anyone who lock picks for fun make sure to throw out every one of your "burglary tools" in your DIY tool box LMAO2
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Quote from WooHoo2You :
Kiddo, calm down.

https://worldpopulationreview.com...s-by-state

"Lock-picking tools are available and legal in the United States. In the majority of U.S. states and the District of Columbia, lock picking is declared legal by specific legal statutes. Even in these states, however, the person lock picking must show benign intent.​"

So.....don't be lock picking outside of a jewelry store (that you do not own) at 3AM and you should be fine.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/U...igLoZOh6FQ

Only 4.5 MILLION subscribers. Perhaps learn a little bit about something before ranting like you are the de facto authority Wink
Uh, there's four states where the person with the picks must show benign intent (that is, picks are legal but incriminating). In all other states with relevant laws (some states have no statute) the burden of proof rests on the state.
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Quote from RSquared :
Uh, there's four states where the person with the picks must show benign intent (that is, picks are legal but incriminating). In all other states with relevant laws (some states have no statute) the burden of proof rests on the state.
So still....legal in those 4 states (and the other 46)?
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Quote from WooHoo2You :
So still....legal in those 4 states (and the other 46)?
Right, just clarifying that "show benign intent" isn't necessary in 46 states. It is in 4. That can make it less attractive to carry these in VA, etc.

That said, CI tools are considered "fine" in the lockpicking community, a little overpriced because of LPL's brand. They're not quite as good as something like Sparrow, which has a basic set with a clear lock for $50 (Tuxedo+lock) that has more tools and turners than the Learn Lockpicking bundle here - unless the LLB has variant pins the clear lock is better for learning on. But $20 for the Genesis set is a good deal for basic picks and turners, $50 for the Echelon is much better than the $70 retail (which can be beat with ala carte picks and tensioners) and CI has some neat bypass tools that other pick companies don't sell (some picking community people think it's irresponsible to sell their bypass kit, which can get you into a lot of commercial doors).

https://www.sparrowslockpicks.com...6478691409
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Quote from RSquared :
Right, just clarifying that "show benign intent" isn't necessary in 46 states. It is in 4. That can make it less attractive to carry these in VA, etc.
Makes sense, and I kinda thought that is how you were leaning. At worst case you you MIGHT need to show benign intent if you were suspected of a crime while in possession of said tools. But the other 99.9999% of the time you could walk up to a police officer on the street and show him / her your cool new lock picking set without issue. Much like a brillo pad or postage scale, if you aren't actively selling drugs you'll be just fine owning one or both of them in full view of the public.
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Quote from WooHoo2You :
Makes sense, and I kinda thought that is how you were leaning. At worst case you you MIGHT need to show benign intent if you were suspected of a crime while in possession of said tools. But the other 99.9999% of the time you could walk up to a police officer on the street and show him / her your cool new lock picking set without issue. Much like a brillo pad or postage scale, if you aren't actively selling drugs you'll be just fine owning one or both of them in full view of the public.
Yeah, though given ACAB a cop doesn't need to know the law correctly to harass you about it. With the ambiguity of the law in those states he'd be halfway right enough to ruin your afternoon.
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Quote from RSquared :
Yeah, though given ACAB a cop doesn't need to know the law correctly to harass you about it. With the ambiguity of the law in those states he'd be halfway right enough to ruin your afternoon.
Thats always a possibility. As a CCW carrier I've been through that once or twice where a young / unknowledgeable police officer didn't understand (or perhaps care about) basic carry laws during a standard traffic stop. But heck, that could happen with about anything.
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Quote from RSquared :
Uh, there's four states where the person with the picks must show benign intent (that is, picks are legal but incriminating). In all other states with relevant laws (some states have no statute) the burden of proof rests on the state.
Sure, burden of proof rests with the state. but in the meantime it can be troublesome and unsettling for the one caught by law enforcement in possession of possible burglary tools.
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