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Costco Members: MSI Aegis ZS2 Desktop: Ryzen 9 7900X, RTX 4080 SUPER, 32GB RAM
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But I canceled it and paid $1165 (after tax/CB) for an i7-14700, 4070 ti super, 16GB. So about half the price of this for roughly 15% less speed and refurbed.
My buddy and I both got refurbed Alienwares from Dell Outlet 7 years ago and they both are still running well. My deal above wasn't as epic as that i7-7700 with 1080 Ti for <$1200, but I hope to get another 7 years out of it and it should be more than enough for 1440p.
To all the people who say you should build because of better value, components, or upgradeability, I strongly disagree. Since 2001, I have built 5 gaming rigs. If you are building to learn or teach someone about PCs, then it may be worth it. If you live near a MicroCenter (as I did for 2 of them), then you can almost reach the cost of prebuilts, but otherwise prebuilts are significantly cheaper. And if you value your time, there is no comparison--not only assembly, but time spent looking for deals on the multiple components. Similarly, I think it is almost never worth upgrading HW other than RAM and storage, unless you enjoy flipping stuff.
Of course the best value proposition is paying $17/mo for GeForce Now on a weak PC that you only change when it fails. If you factor in initial cost (vs keeping that cash in index funds) and energy costs, it isn't even close. But I am old and stubborn in my ways.
Edit: Corrected price of GF now ultimate. Also made a spreadsheet roughly comparing the costs of gaming vs non-gaming. It only comes out to about $5k at 25 yrs, so it doesn't seem to be a big difference. You can download this to your Google drive and adjust the variables (in green). I don't know the energy use of gaming vs non-gaming when doing things other than gaming so I didn't include that.
https://docs.google.com/spreadshe...sp=
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But I canceled it and paid $1165 (after tax/CB) for an i7-14700, 4070 ti super, 16GB. So about half the price of this for roughly 15% less speed and refurbed.
My buddy and I both got refurbed Alienwares from Dell Outlet 7 years ago and they both are still running well. My deal above wasn't as epic as that i7-7700 with 1080 Ti for <$1200, but I hope to get another 7 years out of it and it should be more than enough for 1440p.
To all the people who say you should build because of better value, components, or upgradeability, I strongly disagree. Since 2001, I have built 5 gaming rigs. If you are building to learn or teach someone about PCs, then it may be worth it. If you live near a MicroCenter (as I did for 2 of them), then you can almost reach the cost of prebuilts, but otherwise prebuilts are significantly cheaper. And if you value your time, there is no comparison--not only assembly, but time spent looking for deals on the multiple components. Similarly, I think it is almost never worth upgrading HW other than RAM and storage, unless you enjoy flipping stuff.
Of course the best value proposition is paying $17/mo for GeForce Now on a weak PC that you only change when it fails. If you factor in initial cost (vs keeping that cash in index funds) and energy costs, it isn't even close. But I am old and stubborn in my ways.
Edit: Corrected price of GF now ultimate. Also made a spreadsheet roughly comparing the costs of gaming vs non-gaming. It only comes out to about $5k at 25 yrs, so it doesn't seem to be a big difference. You can download this to your Google drive and adjust the variables (in green). I don't know the energy use of gaming vs non-gaming when doing things other than gaming so I didn't include that.
https://docs.google.com/spreadshe...sp=
But I canceled it and paid $1165 (after tax/CB) for an i7-14700, 4070 ti super, 16GB. So about half the price of this for roughly 15% less speed and refurbed.
My buddy and I both got refurbed Alienwares from Dell Outlet 7 years ago and they both are still running well. My deal above wasn't as epic as that i7-7700 with 1080 Ti for <$1200, but I hope to get another 7 years out of it and it should be more than enough for 1440p.
To all the people who say you should build because of better value, components, or upgradeability, I strongly disagree. Since 2001, I have built 5 gaming rigs. If you are building to learn or teach someone about PCs, then it may be worth it. If you live near a MicroCenter (as I did for 2 of them), then you can almost reach the cost of prebuilts, but otherwise prebuilts are significantly cheaper. And if you value your time, there is no comparison--not only assembly, but time spent looking for deals on the multiple components. Similarly, I think it is almost never worth upgrading HW other than RAM and storage, unless you enjoy flipping stuff.
Of course the best value proposition is paying $10/mo for GeForce Now on a weak PC that you only change when it fails. If you factor in initial cost (vs keeping that cash in index funds) and energy costs, it isn't even close. But I am old and stubborn in my ways.
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Totally agree on that. Sadly no microcenter near me so had to put in the work
Maybe somebody who has a smaller OLED as PC monitor can chip in.
Link to Rtings: https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/c...9703/49541
Maybe somebody who has a smaller OLED as PC monitor can chip in.
Link to Rtings: https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/c...9703/49541
i myself used to have 34in 3440 x 1440 monitors but am now using the AW3821DW and i think it's the perfect upgrade path, for a combination of office/productivity/gaming.
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But again IF you don't want the hassle of DIY and like these specs, this is a decent deal as you trade time for a little bit of money and flexibility in specs.
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