frontpageBenM2131 posted Dec 10, 2024 01:31 PM
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frontpageBenM2131 posted Dec 10, 2024 01:31 PM
Select Ford Dealerships: 2024 Ford Escape Plug-In Hybrid Electric Vehicle
(Offer Will Vary By Region)$29,995
$44,000
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Oh, and you can also run this hybrid (battery + engine on) and then you have a very efficient gas vehicle with the added power of electric. When it's cold (under 15 f) the car will not run in electric only - just hybrid.
But you could also never plug it in, and use it as a typical hybrid vehicle, where the regenerative braking (the otherwise wasted energy is used to recharge the battery) yields improved MPG.
...But if you really think you will never get any use out of it being a Plug-in hybridk, typical non-PH hybrids are always cheaper.
I plug it in to 110 (12A) outlet overnight and get a full charge in about 10 hours. Most days that I drive it I only use the electric power. On days I drive more or if I forget to plug it in, I just use the gas in the tank. It has a 9 Gallon fuel tank which gives about 325 miles of driving on gas.
When I go on road trips I put it in gas mode while I'm on the highway and save the battery for when I'm doing city driving or hit stop and go traffic. On long trips (600M) the volt averages about 40mpg of mostly gas driving.
Outside of long road trips I buy gas once every 3-4 months. My electric bill is high, but it's still only about $100/month in electricity for 30-50 miles of driving each day (California, 15c/KWh). I don't have severe winters where I live, so the cold is only a factor when I go to the ski hill.
If you truly intend to never charge the PHEV, then get a non-plug in hybrid instead. PHEV cars have a larger battery which means driving around more weight burns more fuel. If you're never charging that battery to full, then there's no use in hauling it around.
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I am just confused on what I read when I googled. It says the battery can charge from braking and the engine so it will just "naturally" charge while doing normal driving ?
Is this still a good deal if used this way ?
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For example, the 2013 Leaf standard model has no pick up. The Escape in EV only mode, which is what I prefer, goes 0-60 in a whooping 13-14s. With engine assist, it brings it down to a reasonable 8s.
The Volt, though it also gets 8s going 0-60 at least has a sports mode that makes going up to 30 mph fun. This car doesn't seem to have that. So basically, if you highway drive a lot, you'll likely never drive in EV only mode.
At 20k, it'd be a steal but at 27k with mid trim? Not worth it. Too many compromises.
1/4 the size, assuming you used the full capacity, means you age the battery 4x faster for the same # of miles as batteries are rated in full charge/discharge cycles.
There's also a large difference in the quality of battery cooling and management between brands--- Teslas batteries, based on a fleet of millions now, show they still retain near 90% original charge north of 200,000 miles--- longer than most folks will own the car at all...so your FUD about needing to replace one after just 56k miles is simply nonsense.
On top of that Hybrids are slower, require more maintenance, and also catch on fire far more often than both EVs and ICE vehicles.
They're the worst of both worlds in most ways.
They're the futon of cars- not great at being either thing they try and combine.
There's also a large difference in the quality of battery cooling and management between brands--- Teslas batteries, based on a fleet of millions now, show they still retain near 90% original charge north of 200,000 miles--- longer than most folks will own the car at all...so your FUD about needing to replace one after just 56k miles is simply nonsense.
On top of that Hybrids are slower, require more maintenance, and also catch on fire far more often than both EVs and ICE vehicles.
They're the worst of both worlds in most ways.
They're the futon of cars- not great at being either thing they try and combine.
Tesla produced its first million in March 2020, just over 4 years ago, so how t's possible to have 200k miles on those?
Posted before, this Tesla owner replaced not 1, but 2 batteries after 60k miles, I am guessing he wasn't part of that fleet you keep
constantly posting about,.
Why you are always coming in every forum with your Tesla nonsense?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCgjcMK
There are really millions of Teslas running around in the world. Here, where I live, on an informal guess based on what I see when I drive, I'd say a good 10-20% of all cars on the road are Teslas.
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There are really millions of Teslas running around in the world. Here, where I live, on an informal guess based on what I see when I drive, I'd say a good 10-20% of all cars on the road are Teslas.
You can't be serious, there are over 300 millions cars in the US, tesla only produced 6 millions across the world.
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