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MSI MPG X670E CARBON WIFI DDR5 AM5 AMD Ryzen™ 7000 Series SATA 6Gb/s ATX Motherboards, Wi-Fi 6E, 2.5G Network Solution. $290

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MSI MPG X670E CARBON WIFI DDR5 AM5 AMD Ryzen™ 7000 Series SATA 6Gb/s ATX Motherboards, Wi-Fi 6E, 2.5G Network Solution.
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ModelBrandMSI
SeriesMPG
ModelMPG X670E CARBON WIFI
Supported CPUCPU Socket Type AM5
CPU TypeSupports AMD Ryzen™ 7000 Series Desktop Processors
Socket AM5
ChipsetsChipset AMD X670E
MemoryNumber of Memory Slots4x288pin (DDR5)
Memory StandardDDR5 4800
Maximum Memory Supported4x DDR5, Maximum Memory
Channel Supported Dual Channel

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MSI MPG X670E CARBON WIFI DDR5 AM5 AMD Ryzen™ 7000 Series SATA 6Gb/s ATX Motherboards, Wi-Fi 6E, 2.5G Network Solution.
$1010 off w/ promo code MS3845, limited offer


ModelBrandMSI
SeriesMPG
ModelMPG X670E CARBON WIFI
Supported CPUCPU Socket Type AM5
CPU TypeSupports AMD Ryzen™ 7000 Series Desktop Processors
Socket AM5
ChipsetsChipset AMD X670E
MemoryNumber of Memory Slots4x288pin (DDR5)
Memory StandardDDR5 4800
Maximum Memory Supported4x DDR5, Maximum Memory
Channel Supported Dual Channel

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Dec 15, 2024 02:34 AM
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Mister_EDec 15, 2024 02:34 AM
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Seems like a good deal. Why no love? ❤️
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Dec 15, 2024 02:39 AM
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shmedDec 15, 2024 02:39 AM
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Between this and the X870e Nova for $300?
Dec 15, 2024 03:57 AM
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prouserDec 15, 2024 03:57 AM
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Quote from Mister_E :
Seems like a good deal. Why no love? ❤️
The MAG x670e Tomahawk is on sale for $209. I bought one yesterday. This one for ~$90 more doesn't seem worth the cost.

$330 gets you one of the best x870e boards. If you were going to spend around $300 I would go for that instead. Otherwise the Tomahawk at $200.

This one is just at an awkward price IMHO.
Dec 15, 2024 05:23 AM
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Luigis3rdcousinDec 15, 2024 05:23 AM
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People wonder why anyone would buy AM4…. This is why. For less than the cost of this motherboard you can get a nice motherboard and a 5700x3d and get as good of a gaming experience
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Dec 15, 2024 03:32 PM
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prouserDec 15, 2024 03:32 PM
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Quote from Luigis3rdcousin :
People wonder why anyone would buy AM4…. This is why. For less than the cost of this motherboard you can get a nice motherboard and a 5700x3d and get as good of a gaming experience
In fairness this is the E line of motherboards, which have a lot more PCI lanes usually allowing for multiple M2 drives without impacting GPU bandwidth or before you start neutering PCI slots, and more USB ports, etc. Varies on the board naturally.

If you need those things, a comparable AM4 board is still going to run you in the $180-200 range. Which at that point, I would go with the AM5 x670e Tomahawk for $200. If you don't, absolutely a $100 AM4 board with a $160-180 5700x3d would build a more than capable budget build. I personally wouldn't recommend that route for most folks unless perhaps you already had some DDR4 memory or otherwise laying around, and each dollar was very meaningful.

The best deal hands down I saw this holiday season was Newegg's $300 AM5 7600x, Motherboard, 32GB Ram, and 1TB NVME deal. If all you need is a budget gaming build, that was an amazing deal. I bought 2 of them. The 7600x gaming is on par/better than the 5700x3d, and since it's AM5 still gives you the flexibility to swap in something like a 9800x3d or otherwise in a few years once those are on super discount vs. being dead-ended with AM4. I would look to see if a similar deal pops up if you wanted a near-full system for the price of this motherboard.
Dec 15, 2024 03:32 PM
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GlobalApathyDec 15, 2024 03:32 PM
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Quote from shmed :
Between this and the X870e Nova for $300?
The nova is $349 MSRP and out of stock since the 1st of Decembers last drop of maybe 10 boards at Newegg. If you can get it before the rebate at newegg ends it would be $329. This would save you $40 min if you don't need what the Nova has to offer. I'm waiting for the Nova, but I'm also waiting for the 9950x3d so I got time.
Dec 15, 2024 03:38 PM
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Davy12DDec 15, 2024 03:38 PM
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I can't find any reason to buy something like this vs a $130 board like the MSI B650-S for a 9800x3d with a single nvme and higher end GPU. The cheap ones have all the IO I need. Am I missing anything besides appearance for that kind of build?

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Dec 15, 2024 03:55 PM
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shmedDec 15, 2024 03:55 PM
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Quote from GlobalApathy :
The nova is $349 MSRP and out of stock since the 1st of Decembers last drop of maybe 10 boards at Newegg. If you can get it before the rebate at newegg ends it would be $329. This would save you $40 min if you don't need what the Nova has to offer. I'm waiting for the Nova, but I'm also waiting for the 9950x3d so I got time.
I already bought the X870e Nova from Newegg. The rebate was 50 off total (mail in rebate + Asrock review promo), so 300. I mostly bought it without doing much research because everyone was saying it's great. I was just curious if this board (in this post) was worth considering too, since its MSRP is technically higher than the X870e Nova.
Dec 15, 2024 04:05 PM
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prouserDec 15, 2024 04:05 PM
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Quote from Davy12D :
I can't find any reason to buy something like this vs a $130 board like the MSI B650-S for a 9800x3d with a single nvme and higher end GPU. The cheap ones have all the IO I need. Am I missing anything besides appearance for that kind of build?
For most people, if you only need a single NVME, don't need the additional storage/connectivity capabilities of the E boards, and aren't planning on trying to do major overclocking - then yes a cheaper B650 is more than adequate. No point spending a bunch of money for features you don't need.

You would not get PCI 5. If you were looking to buy an upcoming unreleased 5090, or whatever follows it a few years later - which may benefit from PCI 5 (unknown at this time). At that point though if you are spending $1,000-$2,500 on a GPU, you probably aren't looking to save $70 on the motherboard. It would probably make sense to spend the extra $70 and get something with PCI 5 if you had to buy now until more is known about the upcominig cards IMHO.
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Dec 15, 2024 04:51 PM
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NavyWallaby579Dec 15, 2024 04:51 PM
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Quote from Luigis3rdcousin :
People wonder why anyone would buy AM4…. This is why. For less than the cost of this motherboard you can get a nice motherboard and a 5700x3d and get as good of a gaming experience
That's my opinion as well. People link all these super budget AM5 builds and say, "Same price as AM4 no reason to not go with the more upgradeable route." If you're using a trash mobo and budget cpu you'll want to upgrade anyways, no reason not to go with the higher quality am4 one for now and then just upgrade to am5 when these nicer motherboards are affordable.
Dec 15, 2024 05:50 PM
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gumbyke1Dec 15, 2024 05:50 PM
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Quote from prouser :
The MAG x670e Tomahawk is on sale for $209. I bought one yesterday. This one for ~$90 more doesn't seem worth the cost.

$330 gets you one of the best x870e boards. If you were going to spend around $300 I would go for that instead. Otherwise the Tomahawk at $200.

This one is just at an awkward price IMHO.
What x870e is that? Link please, I'd like to check it out.
Dec 15, 2024 06:01 PM
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prouserDec 15, 2024 06:01 PM
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Quote from gumbyke1 :
What x870e is that? Link please, I'd like to check it out.
ASRock X870E NOVA WIFI. Arguably it's the best of the best. You can have 5 x NVME, and a GPU at x16 without any lane sharing - it all runs at full speed. Only board out there that allows that. Now most people don't need that, but if you do, it's a home run. Looks like it's going for around $329 on NE right now, and sells out pretty fast. I saw it in stock just the other night.

If you are looking to spend $300'sh on a motherboard, that is the one to get vs. this one IMHO.
Dec 15, 2024 06:03 PM
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RagingSasquatchDec 15, 2024 06:03 PM
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Quote from Luigis3rdcousin :
People wonder why anyone would buy AM4…. This is why. For less than the cost of this motherboard you can get a nice motherboard and a 5700x3d and get as good of a gaming experience
Good? Yes. AS good? No, that's a straight lie.
Dec 15, 2024 06:06 PM
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RagingSasquatchDec 15, 2024 06:06 PM
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Quote from prouser :
ASRock X870E NOVA WIFI. Arguably it's the best of the best. You can have 5 x NVME, and a GPU at x16 without any lane sharing - it all runs at full speed. Only board out there that allows that. Now most people don't need that, but if you do, it's a home run. Looks like it's going for around $329 on NE right now, and sells out pretty fast. I saw it in stock just the other night.

If you are looking to spend $300'sh on a motherboard, that is the one to get vs. this one IMHO.
Asrock has always had severe quality issues, corner cutting and awful UEFI implementations. I wouldn't touch them with a 10 foot pile of shit.
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Dec 15, 2024 06:18 PM
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prouserDec 15, 2024 06:18 PM
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Quote from NavyWallaby579 :
That's my opinion as well. People link all these super budget AM5 builds and say, "Same price as AM4 no reason to not go with the more upgradeable route." If you're using a trash mobo and budget cpu you'll want to upgrade anyways, no reason not to go with the higher quality am4 one for now and then just upgrade to am5 when these nicer motherboards are affordable.
People generally vastly overspend on motherboards, for features they don't need, and overclocking they don't do. If all you do is game or general computer usage, and need a single NVME, the motherboard itself has nearly zero impact on gaming performance.

The gaming performance difference between the absolute top of the line AM4 motherboard, and the cheapest "trash mobo" AM5 board is going to be near zero. It's the CPU and GPU that really matter. You buy the better boards if they have the features you need; not for better gaming performance.

An upgrade to AM5 requires a new motherboard, new CPU, and new ram.
An upgrade from the "trash mobo" AM5 to the best gaming processors available for likely the next 4-6 years only requires a new CPU. The budget AM5 CPU trades blows with the best AM4 gaming CPUs.

IMHO I would suggest 9 times out of 10, it really is the best path to build fresh with AM5 now. Building a new AM4 system now to wait for the AM5 motherboards to drop in price $100 doesn't make sense to me; any savings you get there by waiting are going to be lost re-buying new CPU, RAM, and motherboard.

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