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expiredEragorn | Staff posted Jan 14, 2025 03:02 AM

The Smartest House Home Automation: Toggle Dimmer $20, Smart Plug $16, Q Sensor

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psychicsword
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The biggest difference is that Z-Wave devices don't use the 2.4Ghz spectrum.

In the US it uses 908.42 or 916 MHz and in Europe it uses 868.42 MHz. Generally speaking that means it is less likely to get interfered with by all of your microwaves, wifi devices, and airtags.

Personally I have found the Z-Wave devices in my home inside a dense neighborhood to be more reliable but most devices that are Zigbee work fine as well. All in I have 57 z-wave devices on my network and rarely have issues with them and I have 17 Zigbee devices which are generally fine but I previously had some ultra cheap battery sensors that were flaky. I only have 3 bluetooth switchbot devices, about 3 wifi smart plugs, and 1 wifi ecobee because those tend to be the most problematic for me when scaled out.

If you plan on having a lot of smart devices you will very likely want to avoid Wifi devices for low bandwidth devices like smart switches and basic motion or temperature sensors so you can save the bandwidth and limited number of connections for devices like security cameras, laptops, tvs, speakers, and other such things.
psychicsword
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That is because these are all z-wave devices. You can't really compare the price of a device that requires certified compatibility with something like the loose standard of zigbee and bluetooth devices.
gr8hifi
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I've been using zwave for the better part of the last 15 years in home automation. I've tried matter, zigbee, and WiFi. I even started out with the old X10 system (showing my age!) Zwave has by far been the most reliable device and communication protocol I've used. Of course I've have had a lemon or two with cheaper brands I've tried but I don't experience the need to reboot devices that I get with my matter and WiFi stuff. I currently use home assistant and a Raspberry PI5 with mixed networks (matter and Zwave) and still find the Zwave to offer the fastest response and most reliable system. My house even has a few Zwave devices running that I got ~10-12 years ago made by Aeotec. While it may not be the easiest to get into out of the box, it really is good stuff once you get going.

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Quote from gr8hifi :
I've been using zwave for the better part of the last 15 years in home automation. I've tried matter, zigbee, and WiFi. I even started out with the old X10 system (showing my age!) Zwave has by far been the most reliable device and communication protocol I've used. Of course I've have had a lemon or two with cheaper brands I've tried but I don't experience the need to reboot devices that I get with my matter and WiFi stuff. I currently use home assistant and a Raspberry PI5 with mixed networks (matter and Zwave) and still find the Zwave to offer the fastest response and most reliable system. My house even has a few Zwave devices running that I got ~10-12 years ago made by Aeotec. While it may not be the easiest to get into out of the box, it really is good stuff once you get going.
"You are not alone, you are definitely not alone". Smilie

I left all the X10 stuff behind when I sold the house, then used SmartThings hub (v1) for a couple of years, then moved to HA (Home Assistant). No regrets.
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DudenellJan 15, 2025 04:27 AM
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Quote from wherestheanykey :
It's a dedicated protocol, so it excels in transmission, like the other comments have said. Since it only runs locally, it's also more reliable than cloud based smart devices.

If you have a really large space or multiple levels separated by concrete or any of the other conditions where WiFi can struggle, Z-Wave might make sense.

However, it's quickly being outpaced by Matter, both in performance and variety of devices that support it.

Matter operates on WiFi, but isn't constrained by your router or a cloud service. Everything runs locally and many devices can act as range extenders. It's also way cheaper to implement than RF protocols like Z-Wave.

But, if you have a Home Assistant server or Hubitat, you can always mix and match protocols.
The main issue with matter and where it falls short is that the device manufacturer can pick and choose what settings are allowed to be controlled by matter, thus limiting the devices still to their respective apps. Govee is a good example, bought a star projector (H6093) and the only functionality I have in Home Assistant is the ability to turn the thing on or off.

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