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500GB Seagate FireCuda M.2 2280 PCIe 4.0 NVMe TLC Solid State Drive (Beskar Ingot)

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Newegg has 500GB Seagate FireCuda M.2 2280 PCIe 4.0 NVMe TLC Solid State Drive (Beskar Ingot Special Edition) on sale for $39.99 - $5 with promo code SAEN2A286 in your cart = $34.99. Shipping is free.

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Specs:
  • 3D TLC NAND Flash
  • Max Sequential Read: Up to 7000 MBps
  • Max Sequential Write: Up to 3000 MBps
  • 4KB Random Read: Up to 400,000 IOPS
  • 4KB Random Write: Up to 700,000 IOPS
  • Terabytes Written (TBW): 640TB

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Written by oceanlake
  • Rated 4.8 out of 5 from customer reviews.
  • At the time of this posting, our research indicates that this is $5 lower than the next best comparable prices starting from $39.99.

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Newegg has 500GB Seagate FireCuda M.2 2280 PCIe 4.0 NVMe TLC Solid State Drive (Beskar Ingot Special Edition) on sale for $39.99 - $5 with promo code SAEN2A286 in your cart = $34.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Staff Member LovelyCheetah for sharing this deal.

Specs:
  • 3D TLC NAND Flash
  • Max Sequential Read: Up to 7000 MBps
  • Max Sequential Write: Up to 3000 MBps
  • 4KB Random Read: Up to 400,000 IOPS
  • 4KB Random Write: Up to 700,000 IOPS
  • Terabytes Written (TBW): 640TB

Editor's Notes

Written by oceanlake
  • Rated 4.8 out of 5 from customer reviews.
  • At the time of this posting, our research indicates that this is $5 lower than the next best comparable prices starting from $39.99.

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Jan 26, 2025 3:13 AM
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RyanLJan 26, 2025 3:13 AM
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Quote from johnny88 View quoted comment :
Link please
It would be for some trash brand with no dram. SSD deals have been crap lately.
Jan 26, 2025 3:20 AM
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RyanLJan 26, 2025 3:20 AM
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Quote from danmatk View quoted comment :
I got a 2 tb Samsung 990 pro with heatsink at Walmart for $99. A very ymmv but I was mighty happy
How long ago was that? I just searched to see if this was posted but didn't see it anywhere.
Jan 26, 2025 6:14 AM
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MWinkJan 26, 2025 6:14 AM
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Quote from szefte View quoted comment :
https://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/t/17912208

hmmm. it does say SLC...right after it says smart cache.
guess it's time to educate myself on new kind of bs lingo.
I'll give you a free lesson (or maybe free after rebate). Let's break it down:

Quote :
Smart Cache - Adopting the HMB mechanism and equipped with SLC Cache function
Quote :
Smart Cache
- Marketing BS. It has absolutely no meaning.

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Adopting the HMB mechanism
- HMB is a feature most DRAM-less NVMe SSDs support (SATA drives cannot support it). DRAM is primarily used to store a copy of the FTL (aka the mapping table), which tracks where the data is physically stored in NAND. This is particularly beneficial for random I/O, which is the majority of what the average user is doing. Contrary to popular belief, this is not a write cache and has little effect on sequential writes. Ultimately, DRAM substantially increases random I/O speeds and slightly decreases wear.

Ideally, you'd have a 1000:1 NANDBig GrinRAM ratio. This means 1GB DRAM per 1TB NAND. These days, you usually only find this on high end drives, like the Samsung 990 Pro. Some drives have smaller amounts of DRAM. Many modern drives don't have onboard DRAM at all. As I mentioned, DRAM-less NVMe drives can support a feature called HMB (Host Memory Buffer). These drives use a small amount of the host machine's memory instead. It's usually only in the ballpark of 32-64MB or so. Despite the small amount, it generally seems to work well enough for most people. This is the route the majority of modern mainstream drives take. Note that HMB does not work over USB or in the PS5. Using such drives in those situations will result in the functioning as pure DRAM-less drives, though they will still work.

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equipped with SLC Cache function
This is the write cache. Whether it's advertised or not, virtually all modern consumer drives have this in one form or another. It allows MLC/TLC/QLC drives to hit those pretty write speeds they like to advertise. The size and implementation vary greatly. Some drives have a very small cache, possibly only a few GB in size. Others can potentially have a massive dynamic cache that uses up to all the free space (effectively 1/3 the capacity for TLC or 1/4 for QLC). Once the cache is full, the write speeds generally drop massively. Drives with the largest caches often drop much lower, as they now have to simultaneously take in more data and condense the contents of an already full drive. In some cases, sequential write speeds can drop below 100MB/s, or even 10MB/s. Better drives tend to be able to maintain closer to 1-2GB/s.

Just to repeat myself, there are no mainstream SLC or MLC SSDs left on the market, nor have there been for years. Everything is now TLC or QLC. Also, many companies frequently swap components, sometimes even changing a drive from TLC to QLC. Don't put too much faith in those popular databases/spreadsheets.

You can also ignore advertisements of "3D NAND." This too is now ubiquitous. The same goes for TRIM, SMART, garbage collection, ECC, and a few other things those bottom feeders tend to tout. I hope this helps.
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Jan 26, 2025 10:06 AM
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szefteJan 26, 2025 10:06 AM
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@MWink you are an amazing human.
Jan 26, 2025 12:54 PM
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CorrectProblemXJan 26, 2025 12:54 PM
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Quote from coronalForce View quoted comment :
Is this a big deal if I wanna stick it in my PS5?
As I understand the bug, the speed accessing data the older it gets is what is being affected. If you wipe everything and put everything back on, it will be at full speed again before degrading as the data ages again.
I'm surprised apparently only Kingston has bothered to implement the fix so far. These are high-end SSD's and you don't want to anger the customers buying your high profit margin products.
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riffdexJan 27, 2025 7:11 PM
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Quote from szefte View quoted comment :
https://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/t/17912208

hmmm. it does say SLC...right after it says smart cache.
guess it's time to educate myself on new kind of bs lingo.
https://www.techpowerup.com/ssd-s...1-tb.d2154

Can always use this resource (techpowerup SSD database) to check the specs of a particular SSD. SLC cache function is a meaningless proprietary term they made up just to confuse people who might just assume they are buying an SLC NAND SSD.
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goyangyi1Jan 27, 2025 10:01 PM
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I just got this in mail. Very well packaged comes with stickers. Most importantly, heat sink feels nice and solid heavy. This is a good value for $38 out the door drive.

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Jan 27, 2025 11:46 PM
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daveneo6Jan 27, 2025 11:46 PM
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this is the way
Jan 28, 2025 2:27 AM
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HonestMask752Jan 28, 2025 2:27 AM
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I bought 2.
Could care less about the quality of the ssd.
I only wanted the coolers.
Will replace the sad with my own.
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LikeABadPennyJan 29, 2025 7:58 PM
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Got mine today, you can't even see the firmware available for it without the serial number, now that I have that I checked, and the firmware is from 2023, very outdated. Seagate is dragging their feet getting the corrected firmware out to it's customers, but I'm not going to just dump on them as they aren't the only ones, several other companies have models that use this faulty controller and it took Phison literal years to correct the issue. Mine will stay in it's box until the corrected firmware comes down the pipeline.
Jan 30, 2025 1:02 AM
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danmatkJan 30, 2025 1:02 AM
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Quote from RyanL View quoted comment :
How long ago was that? I just searched to see if this was posted but didn't see it anywhere.
it wasn't posted, i was just crusing my local wal mart electronics clearance. I didn't get a rtx 4070 super for $400 they had on clearance, was going back to see if it was still there, it wasn't but the ssd was. very YMMV.
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boobolooJan 30, 2025 7:26 AM
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Quote from MWink View quoted comment :
I'll give you a free lesson (or maybe free after rebate). Let's break it down:


This is the write cache. Whether it's advertised or not, virtually all modern consumer drives have this in one form or another. It allows MLC/TLC/QLC drives to hit those pretty write speeds they like to advertise. The size and implementation vary greatly. Some drives have a very small cache, possibly only a few GB in size. Others can potentially have a massive dynamic cache that uses up to all the free space (effectively 1/3 the capacity for TLC or 1/4 for QLC). Once the cache is full, the write speeds generally drop massively. Drives with the largest caches often drop much lower, as they now have to simultaneously take in more data and condense the contents of an already full drive. In some cases, sequential write speeds can drop below 100MB/s, or even 10MB/s. Better drives tend to be able to maintain closer to 1-2GB/s.
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Yep, the cache basically disappears when the drive is full which is why its best to buy enough storage that you never get past half full on a boot disk, which is why 500GB isn't enough for many uses. Many users have an almost full drive as their main, I've seen it lol, just beating their drive to death.

Based on its claimed tbw the drive should be decently robust assuming they ever update the firmware. Hopefully they do considering its 5 year warranty.
Last edited by booboloo January 30, 2025 at 12:18 AM.
Jan 30, 2025 11:13 PM
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MWinkJan 30, 2025 11:13 PM
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Quote from riffdex View quoted comment :
https://www.techpowerup.com/ssd-s...1-tb.d2154

Can always use this resource (techpowerup SSD database) to check the specs of a particular SSD. SLC cache function is a meaningless proprietary term they made up just to confuse people who might just assume they are buying an SLC NAND SSD.
I suggest being highly skeptical of the information in that database, especially when not looking at top tier brands (Samsung, Crucial, etc.). I've bought numerous drives that had substantially different hardware than what's listed there. The Orico O7000 definitely has a QLC version. At this point, I'd assume any being sold now would likely be QLC.

SLC cache is neither meaningless, nor a proprietary term. It means some of the NAND is used as a pSLC write cache. One could argue it's unnecessary to advertise, as all modern consumer drives have it.

Quote from LikeABadPenny View quoted comment :
Got mine today, you can't even see the firmware available for it without the serial number, now that I have that I checked, and the firmware is from 2023, very outdated. Seagate is dragging their feet getting the corrected firmware out to it's customers, but I'm not going to just dump on them as they aren't the only ones, several other companies have models that use this faulty controller and it took Phison literal years to correct the issue. Mine will stay in it's box until the corrected firmware comes down the pipeline.
Did you confirm the drive you received has the affected controller?

Quote from booboloo View quoted comment :
Yep, the cache basically disappears when the drive is full which is why its best to buy enough storage that you never get past half full on a boot disk, which is why 500GB isn't enough for many uses. Many users have an almost full drive as their main, I've seen it lol, just beating their drive to death.

Based on its claimed tbw the drive should be decently robust assuming they ever update the firmware. Hopefully they do considering its 5 year warranty.
The behavior of the pSLC cache is going to depend on the implementation. A lot of the drives I've seen with Phison controllers use a small, static pSLC cache, which may not be significantly affected by how full the drive is. When the cache is confined to the factory overprovisioned area, its size mainly varies depending on the number of bad blocks the drive has.

Even with a dynamic pSLC cache, keeping the drive <50% full is unnecessary.
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Quote from MWink View quoted comment :
I suggest being highly skeptical of the information in that database, especially when not looking at top tier brands (Samsung, Crucial, etc.). I've bought numerous drives that had substantially different hardware than what's listed there. The Orico O7000 definitely has a QLC version. At this point, I'd assume any being sold now would likely be QLC.

SLC cache is neither meaningless, nor a proprietary term. It means some of the NAND is used as a pSLC write cache. One could argue it's unnecessary to advertise, as all modern consumer drives have it.



Did you confirm the drive you received has the affected controller?



The behavior of the pSLC cache is going to depend on the implementation. A lot of the drives I've seen with Phison controllers use a small, static pSLC cache, which may not be significantly affected by how full the drive is. When the cache is confined to the factory overprovisioned area, its size mainly varies depending on the number of bad blocks the drive has.

Even with a dynamic pSLC cache, keeping the drive <50% full is unnecessary.
Yes you can get away with less over provisioning, the samsungs let you set at least 10% through the app, but if you can, more is better.

but yea the database will fail with variable bom products as they just use whatever they can get away with at the time.

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Quote from booboloo View quoted comment :
Yes you can get away with less over provisioning, the samsungs let you set at least 10% through the app, but if you can, more is better.
In most situations, there's no need to leave unpartitioned space (like the Samsung, Crucial, etc. apps can do). Any free, trimmed (or never filled) space will be used as dynamic overprovisioning. The main reasons to leave unpartitioned space would be to prevent the user from filling the drive or for setups that don't support TRIM (like some RAID configurations or USB bridges).

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