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20TB Seagate Expansion Desktop USB 3.0 External Hard Drive

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Best Buy has 20TB Seagate Expansion Desktop USB 3.0 External Hard Drive (STKP20000400) on sale for $229.99. Shipping is free.

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Best Buy has 20TB Seagate Expansion Desktop USB 3.0 External Hard Drive (STKP20000400) on sale for $229.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community members cmdauria and petem9110 for sharing this deal.

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Model: Seagate Expansion 20TB External Hard Drive HDD - USB 3.0, with Rescue Data Recovery Services (STKP20000400)

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William.LEJA
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In case it helps anyone - I bought 3 of these last month from Best Buy and put them in a TrueNAS Scale server I have after error checking them. Transferred 18 terabytes onto a RAID-Z1 array and no issues reading and writing at normal speeds.

No clue if the drives are CMR, SMR or whatever. They work for me. I keep redundant backups. I wouldn't trust these or any drives without at least one other backup of the data somewhere. All drives fail sooner or later.
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Havnt seen a WD on sale for a long time

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Feb 09, 2025 10:39 PM
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longdiddyFeb 09, 2025 10:39 PM
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Quote from CTRFK8 :
they work fine.once you get to the 12 bays you will have issues but they can be ignored . Synology loves their own branded hdds with firmware.do synology SHR
Looks like nobody still knows if these are CMR or SMR drives. Think I will hold off until more info comes out on these.
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Feb 09, 2025 10:40 PM
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CTRFK8
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Feb 09, 2025 10:40 PM
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Quote from lattiboy :
They're branded Barracudas, but seem to operate identically to Exos. Somebody did some digging and they appear to be re-binned drives that couldn't do 28-32TBs. Makes sense they'd use them as consumer externals. Pretty positive they aren't SMR as I ran a small file torture test and they didn't flatline like SMRs do
As far as i know there is no full proof way to tell using software, or hard drive sentinel would be detecting these drives. I have the pro version.
I wrote the developer and basically told me software will not be able to tell you CMR or SMR.

We wont know until Seagate posts the specs.
I would hope they are 28-30TB HAMR drives with disabled platters and sectors that are bad.
no one can be sure , even WD did this when they made wd reds , as some more SMR.
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Feb 09, 2025 10:49 PM
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Feb 09, 2025 10:49 PM
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Quote from longdiddy :
Looks like nobody still knows if these are CMR or SMR drives. Think I will hold off until more info comes out on these.
they have good read and write speeds but no one knows if they will slow down when filled up or in raid when bandwidth just drops off a cliff.

i dont trust any seagate with a barracuda label.


WD will also be using the same HAMR tech soon but as far as i know all externals hdds from 8TB to 22TB are enterprise grade like the exos.
Seagate 8TB was SMR, and a barracuda , 10TB to 18TB were exo's and last year 20TB was exo but now have been swapped out. I bet serverpartsdeals in florida are selling those as refurbs now. I own about 6k dollars worth of seagate 18TB exo refurbs , havent had one die , they had a 2 year warranty. also seagate 22 to 24TB are exos , i own both and have shucked them
I also own a synology 2 bay drive and i only use it for photo backups, data sharing and other things, nothing major and i would say they are suitable for synology SHR , but not real RAID or ZFS true nas. I am sure you could get away with it. just not for me. I run all WD and EXO X18 drives in my 24 bay true nas. raid z2 ,4 vdevs, 256GB ram epyc.
Not sure how these would handle a rebuild one day, lets say this barracuda dies and then i have one drive left to die during a rebuilt , if that one dies i lose all my data.

I want to know official specs , an enterprise drive is rated for 550TB a year. After 3-4 years of power on i would be nervous of a barracuda.
I guess unraid would be suitable since its not real raid, just make sure you have a program to do smart tests , i use scrutiny docker.
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KerrojFeb 09, 2025 10:54 PM
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Quote from Adam2004 :
WD has way more failures than Seagate. YMMV.
Not for me. I just had another Seagate external drive fail on me 2 weeks ago, that makes 3 to ZERO Western Digitals. Two of my WD's are much older than the Seagate's.
NEVER AGAIN! vomit
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This person got really bad read and write speeds.
240MB/s write 140MB/s read , sounds like SMR speeds
https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoar...s_shucked/
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MWinkFeb 10, 2025 12:25 AM
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Quote from vnayan :
I thought CMR or SMR didn't matter for me until I started moving large amount of files.

It's not worth the risk. Don't buy SMR drives. It will 100% affect your bandwidth and slow your machine down.
Random writes (such as writing a large amount of small files) can be difficult for SMR drives. I have not seen any evidence these are SMR.

Quote from longdiddy :
Looks like nobody still knows if these are CMR or SMR drives. Think I will hold off until more info comes out on these.
If they were SMR, I think someone would have noticed the behavior by now. While I can't say for certain, all signs point to them being CMR.

Quote from CTRFK8 :
This person got really bad read and write speeds.
240MB/s write 140MB/s read , sounds like SMR speeds
https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoar...s_shucked/
I see you're back to making things up. That person posted a benchmark showing 245MB/s read and 225MB/s write. Nobody in that thread claimed 140MB/s. Also, sequential read/write speeds aren't a great way to determine if a drive is SMR (unless empty/trimmed portions report unrealistically high read speeds).
Feb 10, 2025 02:20 AM
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MattR3330Feb 10, 2025 02:20 AM
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I bought one of these in the last sale and it self-reports as CMR. Seems to perform well, although it does run hot in the plastic enclosure like someone mentioned earlier.
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Feb 10, 2025 02:24 AM
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bieberwhole69Feb 10, 2025 02:24 AM
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it's sad that this is a "deal"
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Feb 10, 2025 02:29 AM
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bieberwhole69Feb 10, 2025 02:29 AM
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Quote from CTRFK8 :
This person got really bad read and write speeds.
240MB/s write 140MB/s read , sounds like SMR speeds
https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoar...s_shucked/
reading the comments... most ppl seem like they don't know what they're talking about lmfao. most recent comments say it's fine. one guy sounds like he doesn't know how to properly test transfers
Feb 10, 2025 02:47 AM
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sc2Feb 10, 2025 02:47 AM
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Things that piss me off:
This comes brand spanking new with 1yr warranty.
You buy a beat up 5 yr old drive from one of the refurbishers and comes with 3-5 yrs.

Just lets me wonder how much faith have we lost in the retail type of drives...
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Farrukh09Feb 10, 2025 04:15 AM
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Any ideas why the 14 and 16TB ones were more expensive than the 20TB? Do those have better quality drives?
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mlashmetFeb 10, 2025 05:22 AM
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I bought this a couple of weeks ago. It was a great deal for 20tb. I read the reviews and I was "that guy" who figured all the negative reviews were just unlucky people or folks who didn't know what they were doing. I set this us to be a backup for my Plex server and it was the loudest drive I've ever used. I was backing up about 9TB onto it and figured maybe it would quiet down once the load was done. Nope, it was still constantly grinding and buzzing, even when it wasn't doing anything. Anyway, I returned it and bought another WD (my primary is an external WD), which even when performing the full backup was practically silent. Once the backup was done, it went idle, as it should. I guess I learned my lesson. No idea of the quality or longevity of the Seagate. But just based on the noise difference, I'll stick with WD from now on.
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BlueVoyager308Feb 10, 2025 06:04 AM
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Quote from FantasticAlpaca2391 :
Listen to what Louis Rossman says about Seagate on YT and you'll never trust your data to another one.
Louis Rossman reviewed Seagate Rosewood drive. Have you seen any of them here? Different drives.
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BlueVoyager308Feb 10, 2025 06:22 AM
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BestBuy reviews have a picture. The drive inside the casing is a HAMR (heat-assisted magnetic recording ) hard drive using Shingled technology (SMR).

The tell-tale is the laser certification label.

This video talks about HAMR (and other tech news.), starting at 20-second mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HyR373zkX4
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Sucks that these drives appear to be a major risk to purchase. HDDs are way too expensive now. Last 18TB exo I bought from goharddrive was $180 in 09/24. Usually prices go down...Hopefully there will be some better deals this President's weekend
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