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  • This brilliant and engaging book is an invaluable source of wisdom for anyone who wants to become more successful at what they do, whether you're a student, a parent, a professional athlete, or a world leader. Now, Ryan Holiday has updated and expanded this modern classic with a new introduction and new content featuring a diverse set of inspiring characters.

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  • This brilliant and engaging book is an invaluable source of wisdom for anyone who wants to become more successful at what they do, whether you're a student, a parent, a professional athlete, or a world leader. Now, Ryan Holiday has updated and expanded this modern classic with a new introduction and new content featuring a diverse set of inspiring characters.

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lazyeyezo0
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I paid a dollar for this book, I still thought it was too much. repeats the same idea over and over with no clear message its literally like this.
YOU HAVE TO FACE THE OBSTACLE HEAD ON!
YOU HAVE TO GO AROUND THE OBSTACLE!
YOU MUST OUTSMART WITH THE OBSTACLE!
YOU MUST STARE DOWN THE OBSTACLE!
SOMETIMES HAVE TO PLAY AROUND THE OBSTACLE!
PLAY COY WITH THE OBSTACLE
"inserts random examples" then repeat with no call to action or any steps.
this book could have easily been a blog post. just save yourself the money and read the free sample on amazon.
fywdude
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It's not a self help book, it is a philosophy book, specifically Stoicism. Many philosophy books are either really dry or really esoteric. Holiday's writing is very readable. I agree with what some folks here have pointed out as conflicting concepts, but philosophy is more about adjusting your own as you accumulate more knowledge and experience, so I find those conflicts acceptable, if sometimes annoying.

I do not like his videos but have enjoyed a few of his books, including this one. YMMV

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Mar 15, 2025 01:52 PM
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PerfectHybridMar 15, 2025 01:52 PM
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Anyone know what the expansion in this version is by chance compared to the non-expanded¿
Mar 15, 2025 08:18 PM
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ashesnbonesMar 15, 2025 08:18 PM
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Quote from PerfectHybrid :
Anyone know what the expansion in this version is by chance compared to the non-expanded¿
From the description "Now, Ryan Holiday has updated and expanded this modern classic with a new introduction and new content featuring a diverse set of inspiring characters"
Mar 15, 2025 09:15 PM
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SenorPantalonesMar 15, 2025 09:15 PM
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Quote from PerfectHybrid :
Anyone know what the expansion in this version is by chance compared to the non-expanded¿
I vaguely recall a video where he said he was going through the notecards from when he wrote the book. He said he was going to add some that didn't make the cut the first time.
Mar 16, 2025 01:33 AM
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lazyeyezo0Mar 16, 2025 01:33 AM
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Our community has rated this post as helpful. If you agree, why not thank lazyeyezo0

I paid a dollar for this book, I still thought it was too much. repeats the same idea over and over with no clear message its literally like this.
YOU HAVE TO FACE THE OBSTACLE HEAD ON!
YOU HAVE TO GO AROUND THE OBSTACLE!
YOU MUST OUTSMART WITH THE OBSTACLE!
YOU MUST STARE DOWN THE OBSTACLE!
SOMETIMES HAVE TO PLAY AROUND THE OBSTACLE!
PLAY COY WITH THE OBSTACLE
"inserts random examples" then repeat with no call to action or any steps.
this book could have easily been a blog post. just save yourself the money and read the free sample on amazon.
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Mar 16, 2025 09:33 AM
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BaconOnWheelsMar 16, 2025 09:33 AM
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Quote from lazyeyezo0 :
I paid a dollar for this book, I still thought it was too much. repeats the same idea over and over with no clear message its literally like this.
YOU HAVE TO FACE THE OBSTACLE HEAD ON!
YOU HAVE TO GO AROUND THE OBSTACLE!
YOU MUST OUTSMART WITH THE OBSTACLE!
YOU MUST STARE DOWN THE OBSTACLE!
SOMETIMES HAVE TO PLAY AROUND THE OBSTACLE!
PLAY COY WITH THE OBSTACLE
"inserts random examples" then repeat with no call to action or any steps.
this book could have easily been a blog post. just save yourself the money and read the free sample on amazon.
Was thinking about getting it with all those great reviews it has... but no call to action or steps?! Doesn't pretty much doesn't tell you what you should do or how to use/apply the information in this book? idk now.
Mar 16, 2025 03:04 PM
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fywdudeMar 16, 2025 03:04 PM
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Quote from BaconOnWheels :
Was thinking about getting it with all those great reviews it has... but no call to action or steps?! Doesn't pretty much doesn't tell you what you should do or how to use/apply the information in this book? idk now.
It's not a self help book, it is a philosophy book, specifically Stoicism. Many philosophy books are either really dry or really esoteric. Holiday's writing is very readable. I agree with what some folks here have pointed out as conflicting concepts, but philosophy is more about adjusting your own as you accumulate more knowledge and experience, so I find those conflicts acceptable, if sometimes annoying.

I do not like his videos but have enjoyed a few of his books, including this one. YMMV
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DrTadWinslowMar 16, 2025 05:11 PM
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Quote from lazyeyezo0 :
I paid a dollar for this book, I still thought it was too much. repeats the same idea over and over with no clear message its literally like this.
YOU HAVE TO FACE THE OBSTACLE HEAD ON!
YOU HAVE TO GO AROUND THE OBSTACLE!
YOU MUST OUTSMART WITH THE OBSTACLE!
YOU MUST STARE DOWN THE OBSTACLE!
SOMETIMES HAVE TO PLAY AROUND THE OBSTACLE!
PLAY COY WITH THE OBSTACLE
"inserts random examples" then repeat with no call to action or any steps.
this book could have easily been a blog post. just save yourself the money and read the free sample on amazon.
Had the exact same experience.

It's basically a book on stoicism, just like countless other books on it. Pretty much can be summarized as "don't let things bother you, and you won't be bothered".

Didn't need 200 pages to keep repeating the same message.

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Mar 16, 2025 08:19 PM
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BaconOnWheelsMar 16, 2025 08:19 PM
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Quote from fywdude :
It's not a self help book, it is a philosophy book, specifically Stoicism. Many philosophy books are either really dry or really esoteric. Holiday's writing is very readable. I agree with what some folks here have pointed out as conflicting concepts, but philosophy is more about adjusting your own as you accumulate more knowledge and experience, so I find those conflicts acceptable, if sometimes annoying.

I do not like his videos but have enjoyed a few of his books, including this one. YMMV
Thanks for your input. It was recommended by a friend as a self help book. Would it be a good start for someone interested in learning philosophy? Or, is there something you recommend that would be a better start
Mar 16, 2025 11:05 PM
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HelloClemFandangoMar 16, 2025 11:05 PM
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Quote from lazyeyezo0 :
i paid a dollar for this book, i still thought it was too much. repeats the same idea over and over with no clear message its literally like this.
you have to face the obstacle head on!
you have to go around the obstacle!
you must outsmart with the obstacle!
you must stare down the obstacle!
sometimes have to play around the obstacle!
play coy with the obstacle
"inserts random examples" then repeat with no call to action or any steps.
this book could have easily been a blog post. just save yourself the money and read the free sample on amazon.
you have to read it again! 🤣
Mar 16, 2025 11:06 PM
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HelloClemFandangoMar 16, 2025 11:06 PM
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Quote from BaconOnWheels :
Thanks for your input. It was recommended by a friend as a self help book. Would it be a good start for someone interested in learning philosophy? Or, is there something you recommend that would be a better start
Read Nietzsche
Mar 17, 2025 03:26 AM
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librarynerd101Mar 17, 2025 03:26 AM
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Great book! Thank you!
Mar 17, 2025 11:54 AM
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fywdudeMar 17, 2025 11:54 AM
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Quote from BaconOnWheels :
Thanks for your input. It was recommended by a friend as a self help book. Would it be a good start for someone interested in learning philosophy? Or, is there something you recommend that would be a better start
The book is one in a series. My personal thinking is that it is a good way to learn about Stoicism with a current viewpoint. If you are looking for something with more actionable recommendations and easy to mentally digest, consider The Daily Stoic by the same author. If you're on a budget, sign up for Bookbub emails and put it on your wish list. It comes up once or twice a year at a similar discount.

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