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Disagree with the XLR statement. This is meant to be just home theater friendly, which means ease of connectivity. Using XLR is a pain in the ass because most receiver output doesn't have it either. LFE is fine for 99% of people.
I'm curious what other $700 you're comparing this to, to say it's only got $700 worth of performance. I don't claim to be a subwoofer guru but this would stomp a mud hole in my more expensive SVS.
I have 2 of these subs in my theater as of around this time last year, and nothing else can touch these for the price point. 2 of these will destroy 1 sub at double or triple the price.. This is SD after all, so your $2100 REL is irRELevant.
i got one of these from the last sale and it's pretty nice value for the money, but it is huge. for comparison, i also have an REL 1508 that has a larger driver, is smaller but way more powerful and just sounds better. having said that, REL is also 2x the price when on sale. but normally 3x more than this
also, if this really were a $1400 sub like klipsch priced it, it should really have an XLR input. it does not. and that really surprised me. i think that if you're slapping word like "reference" in the name and pricing it in the 4 digit category, you should have XLR.
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i got one of these from the last sale and it's pretty nice value for the money, but it is huge. for comparison, i also have an REL 1508 that has a larger driver, is smaller but way more powerful and just sounds better. having said that, REL is also 2x the price when on sale. but normally 3x more than this
also, if this really were a $1400 sub like klipsch priced it, it should really have an XLR input. it does not. and that really surprised me. i think that if you're slapping word like "reference" in the name and pricing it in the 4 digit category, you should have XLR.
you have to be on crack to think this is worth anywhere near the claimed $1400 MSRP. this is a $700 sub being sold at the price it's worth, $700
Disagree with the XLR statement. This is meant to be just home theater friendly, which means ease of connectivity. Using XLR is a pain in the ass because most receiver output doesn't have it either. LFE is fine for 99% of people.
I'm curious what other $700 you're comparing this to, to say it's only got $700 worth of performance. I don't claim to be a subwoofer guru but this would stomp a mud hole in my more expensive SVS.
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i got one of these from the last sale and it's pretty nice value for the money, but it is huge. for comparison, i also have an REL 1508 that has a larger driver, is smaller but way more powerful and just sounds better. having said that, REL is also 2x the price when on sale. but normally 3x more than this
also, if this really were a $1400 sub like klipsch priced it, it should really have an XLR input. it does not. and that really surprised me. i think that if you're slapping word like "reference" in the name and pricing it in the 4 digit category, you should have XLR.
you have to be on crack to think this is worth anywhere near the claimed $1400 MSRP. this is a $700 sub being sold at the price it's worth, $700
I have 2 of these subs in my theater as of around this time last year, and nothing else can touch these for the price point. 2 of these will destroy 1 sub at double or triple the price.. This is SD after all, so your $2100 REL is irRELevant.
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Maybe in a pure bass and rattle your windows but the SVS, in particular when paired with a second will be significantly better.
If you just want loud bass in volume sure this isn't bad, but SVS will sound better.
No. I also own SVS PB-2000 and 2 of these were a huge upgrade over the single SVS. The SVS sounds like a weaker version of these.
I almost bought the SVS PB-2000 Pro to pair with my existing PB-2000, but for a few hundred bucks more I got 2 of these, and that was a much better purchase. The SVS got demoted from theater to guest bedroom sub.
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Disagree with the XLR statement. This is meant to be just home theater friendly, which means ease of connectivity. Using XLR is a pain in the ass because most receiver output doesn't have it either. LFE is fine for 99% of people.
I'm curious what other $700 you're comparing this to, to say it's only got $700 worth of performance. I don't claim to be a subwoofer guru but this would stomp a mud hole in my more expensive SVS.
I was curious about other $700 subs also. I have 3500+ cubic feet of space and a single RSL 12S ($800). Thinking about getting one of these because the RSL needs a little help with that large space. I don't know of anything around $700 that would come close to this Klipsch or the RSL.
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I was curious about other $700 subs also. I have 3500+ cubic feet of space and a single RSL 12S ($800). Thinking about getting one of these because the RSL needs a little help with that large space. I don't know of anything around $700 that would come close to this Klipsch or the RSL.
the RSL is a better choice for a few reasons:
more peak power
kevlar reinforced driver beefier / thicker cabinet with more bracing
wider FR range (flat)better customer service
slightly smaller form factor (~15% smaller volume)
cast aluminum frame on the RSL versus stamped steel on klipsch (Ferrous interference)
high and low pass filters, klipsch only has low pass
built in DSP modes, none on klipsch
real nomex spider material
remote control included with volume, power, mute and DSP adjustment
line level inputs
USB port for firmware updates
line out jacks (For separates)
variable phase not just 0/180.higher value rating (Audioholics)
do a side by side A/B test. the RSL is tighter and more accurate.
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more peak power
kevlar reinforced driver beefier / thicker cabinet with more bracing
wider FR range (flat)better customer service
slightly smaller form factor (~15% smaller volume)
cast aluminum frame on the RSL versus stamped steel on klipsch (Ferrous interference)
high and low pass filters, klipsch only has low pass
built in DSP modes, none on klipsch
real nomex spider material
remote control included with volume, power, mute and DSP adjustment
line level inputs
USB port for firmware updates
line out jacks (For separates)
variable phase not just 0/180.higher value rating (Audioholics)
do a side by side A/B test. the RSL is tighter and more accurate.
Wow great points. Don't have the Klipsch yet. Was thinking about it to supplement the RSL. You make a great case for ponying up the extra $100 for another 12S.
purchased this and delivered.. For the price this absolutely SLAPS ! so much I can feel air moving across the room with subsonic etc. This is my first higher end subwoofer coming from an older Velodyne DSP, PSB Subsonic 9i and a short run with Rhythmic entry level sub . Really for the money thinking this Klipsch would smoke SVS PB 2k or HSU Price equivalent.. Maybe bias because I just purchased but thinking this is built to compete with SVS PB4K or whatever is at that level. Just a sick deal, or shall I say.... SLICK deal.. Bwahhahah
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Bought 1, loved it so much and listened to some AV connoisseurs, decided upon a 2nd one. One YouTube reviewer compared it to a muscle car - a no frills, fully functional subwoofer and wow does this thing deliver. Have the gain setting on level 6 out of 11 at the moment. So if you are looking for deep, chest thumping low frequencies, this is it. Klipsch is so confident in their new RP lineup with the 5 year amp & speaker warranty, there should be no concerns of reliability.
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Klipsch probably won't offer replacement amps when these inevitably fail as well. Two totally different types of companies to deal with as far as customer service down the line.
The failing amp. issue was fixed years ago. Are you also someone who craps on Hyundai because of the cars they made in the 90s?
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I'm curious what other $700 you're comparing this to, to say it's only got $700 worth of performance. I don't claim to be a subwoofer guru but this would stomp a mud hole in my more expensive SVS.
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also, if this really were a $1400 sub like klipsch priced it, it should really have an XLR input. it does not. and that really surprised me. i think that if you're slapping word like "reference" in the name and pricing it in the 4 digit category, you should have XLR.
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also, if this really were a $1400 sub like klipsch priced it, it should really have an XLR input. it does not. and that really surprised me. i think that if you're slapping word like "reference" in the name and pricing it in the 4 digit category, you should have XLR.
you have to be on crack to think this is worth anywhere near the claimed $1400 MSRP. this is a $700 sub being sold at the price it's worth, $700
I'm curious what other $700 you're comparing this to, to say it's only got $700 worth of performance. I don't claim to be a subwoofer guru but this would stomp a mud hole in my more expensive SVS.
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also, if this really were a $1400 sub like klipsch priced it, it should really have an XLR input. it does not. and that really surprised me. i think that if you're slapping word like "reference" in the name and pricing it in the 4 digit category, you should have XLR.
you have to be on crack to think this is worth anywhere near the claimed $1400 MSRP. this is a $700 sub being sold at the price it's worth, $700
If you just want loud bass in volume sure this isn't bad, but SVS will sound better.
I almost bought the SVS PB-2000 Pro to pair with my existing PB-2000, but for a few hundred bucks more I got 2 of these, and that was a much better purchase. The SVS got demoted from theater to guest bedroom sub.
I'm curious what other $700 you're comparing this to, to say it's only got $700 worth of performance. I don't claim to be a subwoofer guru but this would stomp a mud hole in my more expensive SVS.
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more peak power
kevlar reinforced driver beefier / thicker cabinet with more bracing
wider FR range (flat)better customer service
slightly smaller form factor (~15% smaller volume)
cast aluminum frame on the RSL versus stamped steel on klipsch (Ferrous interference)
high and low pass filters, klipsch only has low pass
built in DSP modes, none on klipsch
real nomex spider material
remote control included with volume, power, mute and DSP adjustment
line level inputs
USB port for firmware updates
line out jacks (For separates)
variable phase not just 0/180.higher value rating (Audioholics)
do a side by side A/B test. the RSL is tighter and more accurate.
more peak power
kevlar reinforced driver beefier / thicker cabinet with more bracing
wider FR range (flat)better customer service
slightly smaller form factor (~15% smaller volume)
cast aluminum frame on the RSL versus stamped steel on klipsch (Ferrous interference)
high and low pass filters, klipsch only has low pass
built in DSP modes, none on klipsch
real nomex spider material
remote control included with volume, power, mute and DSP adjustment
line level inputs
USB port for firmware updates
line out jacks (For separates)
variable phase not just 0/180.higher value rating (Audioholics)
do a side by side A/B test. the RSL is tighter and more accurate.
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If you just want loud bass in volume sure this isn't bad, but SVS will sound better.
And no, I highly doubt it. I have an RP-1600SW, which yes, is just one step up from the 14000, but it absolutely shames my SVS. It's not even close.
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