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May 6, 2025 6:09 AM

Water Panther 18TB 7200 RPM SAS 12Gb/s 3.5-Inch Enterprise Hard Disk Drive in 13G Tray Compatible with Dell PowerEdge Servers R730XD R730 T340 T330 T640 T630 T440 (Renewed) $159.99

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Only $8.88/TB, which is a steal. Water Panther warranty is 2 years per: https://waterpanther.com/pages/ab...leshooting.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09TCVJ...yp_imgToDp

Edit: Adding snapshot from Water Panther chat in Amazon Seller Portal proving the drives have a 2 year warranty.
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Only $8.88/TB, which is a steal. Water Panther warranty is 2 years per: https://waterpanther.com/pages/ab...leshooting.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09TCVJ...yp_imgToDp

Edit: Adding snapshot from Water Panther chat in Amazon Seller Portal proving the drives have a 2 year warranty.

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May 6, 2025 9:32 AM
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JoeJoeBlow90May 6, 2025 9:32 AM
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Without a 2-5 year warranty, no one will want this drive,

Edit ok I see the 2 year warranty. Never heard of this brand. Anyone heard of it?

Also keep in mind, SAS and not SATA (I know title says SAS)
Last edited by JoeJoeBlow90 May 6, 2025 at 02:35 AM.
May 6, 2025 11:03 AM
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ZaghloulSMay 6, 2025 11:03 AM
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Quote from JoeJoeBlow90 View quoted comment :
Without a 2-5 year warranty, no one will want this drive,

Edit ok I see the 2 year warranty. Never heard of this brand. Anyone heard of it?

Also keep in mind, SAS and not SATA (I know title says SAS)
Does this means it wont work for synolgy nas?
May 6, 2025 11:08 AM
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JoeJoeBlow90May 6, 2025 11:08 AM
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Quote from ZaghloulS View quoted comment :
Does this means it wont work for synolgy nas?
Only SATA will work in a synology I believe.

It has to do with the backplane having a different connector. See the link below for the differences between SATA and SAS.

https://www.tomshardware.com/revi...665-2.html
May 6, 2025 11:47 AM
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tommibearMay 6, 2025 11:47 AM
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Great for my dvr security system.
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May 6, 2025 2:00 PM
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swechslerMay 6, 2025 2:00 PM
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Quote from tommibear View quoted comment :
Great for my dvr security system.
will your security system work with SAS drives? If it's a consumer-level system, probably not.
May 6, 2025 2:06 PM
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swechslerMay 6, 2025 2:06 PM
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It should be a surprise to nobody reading this that these drives are "renewed" (i.e. used). However, it's still a better price than you'll find for used drives of this size on eBay, and the warranty is a plus. The company does list a Manhattan address and phone number, but I can almost guarantee that's not where the drives ship from.

And it's worth pointing out again that these drives are SAS, not SATA. If you don't know what SAS is, then it's unlikely you can use them.
May 6, 2025 2:46 PM
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swechslerMay 6, 2025 2:46 PM
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Found an old thread on Reddit [reddit.com]. Seems like a scammy company. I'd pass.

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May 6, 2025 4:36 PM
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piscianMay 6, 2025 4:36 PM
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Quote from swechsler View quoted comment :
Found an old thread on Reddit [reddit.com]. Seems like a scammy company. I'd pass.
Seems pretty obvious. While Panthers can swim, theres no such family of water dwelling panthers.
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May 6, 2025 4:42 PM
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KDoggMDF
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May 6, 2025 4:42 PM
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Quote from JoeJoeBlow90 View quoted comment :
Without a 2-5 year warranty, no one will want this drive,Edit ok I see the 2 year warranty. Never heard of this brand. Anyone heard of it?Also keep in mind, SAS and not SATA (I know title says SAS)
These have a 2 year warranty. Water Panther confirmed this, see below, and I mentioned it in the post. I have numerous Water Panther refurbs and most are Exos drives rebranded. Only had one failure so far over a few years and RMA was simple.

I can't speak to the voracity of the comments below stating the company is "scammy" but they are a division of Server Part Deals and I've bought drives from them for years too and had very little issue. RMAs through both entities have always been handled quick and without incident and I've never had DOA drives, although I have had failures within warranty periods.
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May 6, 2025 4:42 PM
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KDoggMDF
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May 6, 2025 4:42 PM
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Quote from KDoggMDF View quoted comment :
These have a 2 year warranty. Water Panther confirmed this, see below, and I mentioned it in the post. I have numerous Water Panther refurbs and most are Exos drives rebranded. Only had one failure so far over a few years and RMA was simple.I can't speak to the voracity of the comments below stating the company is "scammy" but they are a division of Server Part Deals and I've bought drives from them for years too and had very little issue. RMAs through both entities have always been handled quick and without incident and I've never had DOA drives, although I have had failures within warranty periods.
Warranty pic below
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May 6, 2025 4:44 PM
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KDoggMDF
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May 6, 2025 4:44 PM
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Quote from swechsler View quoted comment :
Found an old thread on Reddit. Seems like a scammy company. I'd pass.
Nothing in that thread proves anything about the company "being a scam" and is all conjecture. See my replies above. I can't speak broadly but based on my own experience, I've had no issues with Water Panther or ServerPartDeal's drive's or RMA/warranty process.
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May 6, 2025 4:50 PM
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KDoggMDF
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May 6, 2025 4:50 PM
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Quote from ZaghloulS View quoted comment :
Does this means it wont work for synolgy nas?
You can use Synology's comatibility checker to determine if your enclosure supports SAS or not. See: https://www.synology.com/en-us/co...0SAS%20HDD
I sorted by Seagate Exos as that's the most common type of drive these are rebranded from, typically X18s.
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May 8, 2025 4:49 AM
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KDoggMDF
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May 8, 2025 4:49 AM
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Updating the group as I bought a handful of these. While I've bought WPs Expanse and Arsenal lines before with zero issues, the same cannot be said here. Got 3 rebadged Exos drives... 2 of the 3 were in terrible shape with 10s of thousands of LBA read and write errors, both soft and hard, as well as hundreds of thousands of ECC corrections. The 3rd drive appeared brand-new in SMART and performed similarly after a full surface read/write test.

Currently doing an RMA via Amazon renewed and 2 replacement drives are inbound... will report how that works out once it's done.
May 13, 2025 12:26 AM
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OrangeCorn227May 13, 2025 12:26 AM
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Quote from piscian View quoted comment :
Seems pretty obvious. While Panthers can swim, theres no such family of water dwelling panthers.
I am waiting for Air Cheetah to go on sale

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May 24, 2025 4:06 PM
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Gor32May 24, 2025 4:06 PM
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Quote from KDoggMDF View quoted comment :
Updating the group as I bought a handful of these. While I've bought WPs Expanse and Arsenal lines before with zero issues, the same cannot be said here. Got 3 rebadged Exos drives... 2 of the 3 were in terrible shape with 10s of thousands of LBA read and write errors, both soft and hard, as well as hundreds of thousands of ECC corrections. The 3rd drive appeared brand-new in SMART and performed similarly after a full surface read/write test.

Currently doing an RMA via Amazon renewed and 2 replacement drives are inbound... will report how that works out once it's done.
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