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Mixture of Q-code and troubleshooting. I tried virtually every permutation of hardware config (different GPUs, no GPU, different RAM, mobos, etc.), BIOS updates/CMOS resets, peripherals. The q-code always hung pointing to VGA issues even when the iGPU was the only VGA in the system and the system would POST/boot just fine if I dropped in a different CPU. Obviously I can't say at a hardware level that's what's happening, but I've had a 7950X3D die the same way (though it wasn't DOA) so that's what I'm rolling with
I made this comment in the last FP post, but I'll make it again.
This is an amazing deal on this processor, but I think it makes no sense for most people.
The X3D cores primarily are useful for high-quality gaming at 1080p where you are CPU-bottlenecked. If you are shelling out $700 or $1000 (MSRP) for this processor, are you honestly telling me you only game at 1080P? I imagine most people buying this processor are enthusiasts gaming at 1440p or higher and they probably have a 80 or 90 series GPU. At 1440p or 4K, the GPU is going to be the bottleneck, even an 80 or 90 series.
If you truly are gaming at 1080p because you are budget-constrained, the 9800x3d makes so much more sense. You get the same X3D cores at a significantly lower price. If you are gaming at 1440p or higher then a 9950X (not X3D) makes more sense to me because you get the same cores as the 9950X3D, they just aren't X3D cores, but those cores aren't necessary because you aren't CPU-bottlenecked.
I made this comment in the last FP post, but I'll make it again.
This is an amazing deal on this processor, but I think it makes no sense for most people.
The X3D cores primarily are useful for high-quality gaming at 1080p where you are CPU-bottlenecked. If you are shelling out $700 or $1000 (MSRP) for this processor, are you honestly telling me you only game at 1080P? I imagine most people buying this processor are enthusiasts gaming at 1440p or higher and they probably have a 80 or 90 series GPU. At 1440p or 4K, the GPU is going to be the bottleneck, even an 80 or 90 series.
If you truly are gaming at 1080p because you are budget-constrained, the 9800x3d makes so much more sense. You get the same X3D cores at a significantly lower price. If you are gaming at 1440p or higher then a 9950X (not X3D) makes more sense to me because you get the same cores as the 9950X3D, they just aren't X3D cores, but those cores aren't necessary because you aren't CPU-bottlenecked.
yes, most halo products don't make much sense to own. they exist to satisfy a market that can and want to own the best and establish the company as a competitive brand.
you don't need to tell people who are shopping for a sports car that it'll get them from one light to another in basically the same amount of time as a 4 door sedan... they know.
I wish I could offered to build around this. I'm just livin' with a heavily modded D 7020 and trying to figure out how to update to W11. This is not asking, I'm just kind of sad.
Good processor for a decent price. However, x870 mobo offerings are a sh*t show. Crappy lane allocations nearly across the whole lineup. Can't have two pcie 5.0 x4 NVME's and a 5gen x16 vid card running at the same time except in a couple of boards such MSI x870 tomahawk, Godlike and Asrocks (which burn processors).
Mixture of Q-code and troubleshooting. I tried virtually every permutation of hardware config (different GPUs, no GPU, different RAM, mobos, etc.), BIOS updates/CMOS resets, peripherals. The q-code always hung pointing to VGA issues even when the iGPU was the only VGA in the system and the system would POST/boot just fine if I dropped in a different CPU. Obviously I can't say at a hardware level that's what's happening, but I've had a 7950X3D die the same way (though it wasn't DOA) so that's what I'm rolling with
My 7950X3D died a month or 2 ago, currently going thru the process of RMA, very annoying. Had Micro Center do a diagnostic
I made this comment in the last FP post, but I'll make it again.This is an amazing deal on this processor, but I think it makes no sense for most people.The X3D cores primarily are useful for high-quality gaming at 1080p where you are CPU-bottlenecked. If you are shelling out $700 or $1000 (MSRP) for this processor, are you honestly telling me you only game at 1080P? I imagine most people buying this processor are enthusiasts gaming at 1440p or higher and they probably have a 80 or 90 series GPU. At 1440p or 4K, the GPU is going to be the bottleneck, even an 80 or 90 series. If you truly are gaming at 1080p because you are budget-constrained, the 9800x3d makes so much more sense. You get the same X3D cores at a significantly lower price. If you are gaming at 1440p or higher then a 9950X (not X3D) makes more sense to me because you get the same cores as the 9950X3D, they just aren't X3D cores, but those cores aren't necessary because you aren't CPU-bottlenecked.
Have you considered that people might want to do things other than play games?
Have you considered that people might want to do things other than play games?
Yes... the 9950X I already mentioned is still the choice. It's the exact same number of cores and dies but without the 3D cache (which again, only really benefits 1080p gamers). Sorry, I didn't think I needed to make that connection for everyone in a thread for a gaming-oriented processor.
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This is an amazing deal on this processor, but I think it makes no sense for most people.
The X3D cores primarily are useful for high-quality gaming at 1080p where you are CPU-bottlenecked. If you are shelling out $700 or $1000 (MSRP) for this processor, are you honestly telling me you only game at 1080P? I imagine most people buying this processor are enthusiasts gaming at 1440p or higher and they probably have a 80 or 90 series GPU. At 1440p or 4K, the GPU is going to be the bottleneck, even an 80 or 90 series.
If you truly are gaming at 1080p because you are budget-constrained, the 9800x3d makes so much more sense. You get the same X3D cores at a significantly lower price. If you are gaming at 1440p or higher then a 9950X (not X3D) makes more sense to me because you get the same cores as the 9950X3D, they just aren't X3D cores, but those cores aren't necessary because you aren't CPU-bottlenecked.
This is an amazing deal on this processor, but I think it makes no sense for most people.
The X3D cores primarily are useful for high-quality gaming at 1080p where you are CPU-bottlenecked. If you are shelling out $700 or $1000 (MSRP) for this processor, are you honestly telling me you only game at 1080P? I imagine most people buying this processor are enthusiasts gaming at 1440p or higher and they probably have a 80 or 90 series GPU. At 1440p or 4K, the GPU is going to be the bottleneck, even an 80 or 90 series.
If you truly are gaming at 1080p because you are budget-constrained, the 9800x3d makes so much more sense. You get the same X3D cores at a significantly lower price. If you are gaming at 1440p or higher then a 9950X (not X3D) makes more sense to me because you get the same cores as the 9950X3D, they just aren't X3D cores, but those cores aren't necessary because you aren't CPU-bottlenecked.
you don't need to tell people who are shopping for a sports car that it'll get them from one light to another in basically the same amount of time as a 4 door sedan... they know.
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