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As a Fold 4 user myself, I'm curious are you itching to upgrade? I saw the Fold 7 in person last Friday and man the weight/thinnest blew me away. But the only things keeping me from upgrading is the lack of battery upgrade of any kind and no Under Display Camera on the main screen. I'll probably wait a year myself in hopes of better battery but curious on what another Fold 4 user thinks.
i pulled the trigger because the fold is definitely showing its age and feeling used. if I don't like it I'll return it within the return window. this Gen also feels like there is a difference in parts upgraded. the added 100 reserve bonus also made it sweeter.
Thanks OP, I did save money but Chat told me they couldn't credit me the difference on the old order and to place a new one with the better pricing. I did that, and when I went to cancel the old order I couldn't because it's in process already. Now I have x2 phones shipping to me, but I am not concerned that I won't be able to return the first more expensive one. It's just a bit of a hassle.
The same thing happend to me. They told me if I returned the phone I would only get a partial refund though. It basically negates the difference and makes it cost more in the end.
miss the fold 4 and earlier Samsung deals.. $330 with trade in, tab ultra, full keyboard, galaxy watch +3 bands! those were the days. honestly it's the only reason I became a Samsung fan! however after going back to Mac desktop (thanks to mini m4) and Samsung pricing on par with Apple, I think it's time jump ship to the dark side for a while-- last time I was all-in apple was 2005... 20 years later and they made enough improvements to get me back, while android/Google/Microsoft have not bothered to innovate ... for years I'd hope the exciting china products would make it hear, but they don't. Apple new minimum is 16gb, the m4 is stellar and untouchable value, and their pricing is no longer inflated across any of their items.
It's still way too expensive and not better value than just getting a windows desktop with similar specs
last time, when traded from a zfold3 to a zfold4, they said my value should be 1000 for the old zfold3 and when I packed the phone and all accessories, included the box just like what I got when buying it new. after checking it, they said my screen is leak or something, even I keep it covered and used the case from day 1, ended up approval for my old fold3 was 700, not sure if they will do the same on my fold4 when upgraded to a zfold7 this year, anyone got the same experience? thanks for any input so that I can pull the trigger. TIA
As a Fold 4 user myself, I'm curious are you itching to upgrade? I saw the Fold 7 in person last Friday and man the weight/thinnest blew me away. But the only things keeping me from upgrading is the lack of battery upgrade of any kind and no Under Display Camera on the main screen. I'll probably wait a year myself in hopes of better battery but curious on what another Fold 4 user thinks.
I'm also a Fold 4 user and using it with the stock Samsung case with the kickstand, which comes out to 310g. Checked it out at Best Buy and I was impressed with the form factor. The weight reduction to 215-218g, thinness, larger screens and 200MP main camera changes are good enough for me to consider the upgrade. The wider outer display felt really good to type on and is more comfortable for me, especially since our Fold 4 was the last generation to not fold flat. I always had to hold it at a slight angle to see the outer display at a straight on view.
The S Pen came for free with the Fold 4 stock case, but I almost never used it past the early stages. If I ever have a use case in the future, a regular passive capacitive stylus is all I would need. I know others use the S Pen more often and has become a part of their daily usage, but it does not apply to me.
As for the UDC, I disabled it using Good Lock/MultiStar and I got used to the black dot after 1-2 days. It basically gets erased in my mind as my focus is almost always towards the middle of the screen. It sucks to lose the full immersive inner screen, but it's not a big deal after experiencing it myself.
The battery size being stagnant isn't great, but I'm always near a charger at home/work/driving or have a battery bank with me if I'm traveling. Early tests indicate about 6+ hours of screen on time with the Fold 7, which is already better than my Fold 4 and I'm never really hurting for more battery life.
Another worry I have is that my phone is way out of warranty. Almost a year in with my Fold 4, a big black dot appeared in the crease towards the top despite never dropping the phone. The pixels were dead and it was likely due to the inner part of the hinge rubbing on that part of the OLED panel. Thankfully it was replaced for free under warranty with Samsung and they fully replaced the inner screen, outer screen and batteries. However I was out of a phone for 2 weeks. After another 1.5 years, towards the end of 2024, I noticed that parts of the inner screen were starting to get loose around the crease, so I took off the inner screen protector when it started peeling around the crease. Read that is one of the main causes of the black dead pixel line forming on the crease due to the loose screen protector pulling the panel out of place when folding/unfolding. Haven't had any issues since then but I'm concerned about future durability issues as it is nearing 3 years old. Any repairs would cost a minimum of $500-600 so that's basically more than half the cost of this upgrade.
I'll likely purchase Samsung VIP Advantage for $149 to get the free 2yrs of Samsung Care+ which is $259 on its own. The nice thing is that whatever happens to the Fold 7, I can get a new/like-new refurbished unit for $99 and it's shipped within 1-2 business days. I'd rather not have to use it, but that peace of mind is enough to consider going caseless for the first time. I may still get a thin aramid fiber case with an integrated magsafe circle, the Aliexpress ones are basically from the same factory as Latercase or Pitaka. Unsure if I want to get just the back case or both the front and back.
Last point, the Fold 3 has a trade-in value of only $300, so consider that to be the same for the Fold 4 if you plan to wait for the Fold 8 next year. Some people are waiting until Sept-Oct to see if bad sales will bring even better deals than launch. I don't expect it to drop more than $100-200 at most. US Tariff uncertainty and Samsung's market decline is also something to think about, but only time will tell.
Anyway sorry for the long reply, but I think these are the main pain points for people who are on older Folds and are struggling to pull the trigger on upgrading or waiting another year. Seems like people who are on Fold 5 and 6 or are heavy S Pen users are not likely to upgrade yet, but more Fold 3/4 users are inclined to upgrade to the better form factor.
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last time, when traded from a zfold3 to a zfold4, they said my value should be 1000 for the old zfold3 and when I packed the phone and all accessories, included the box just like what I got when buying it new. after checking it, they said my screen is leak or something, even I keep it covered and used the case from day 1, ended up approval for my old fold3 was 700, not sure if they will do the same on my fold4 when upgraded to a zfold7 this year, anyone got the same experience? thanks for any input so that I can pull the trigger. TIA
I also had similar horrible experience with Samsung trade in. I decided not to tempt for these sales from Samsung. I plan to buy at bestbuy by paying 150$ extra. I already have total tech membership so no worry about repairs.
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I wonder if ordering thru Samsung (online) and picked it up from Best Buy still invokes the 5% restock, if returned back at BB.
The S Pen came for free with the Fold 4 stock case, but I almost never used it past the early stages. If I ever have a use case in the future, a regular passive capacitive stylus is all I would need. I know others use the S Pen more often and has become a part of their daily usage, but it does not apply to me.
As for the UDC, I disabled it using Good Lock/MultiStar and I got used to the black dot after 1-2 days. It basically gets erased in my mind as my focus is almost always towards the middle of the screen. It sucks to lose the full immersive inner screen, but it's not a big deal after experiencing it myself.
The battery size being stagnant isn't great, but I'm always near a charger at home/work/driving or have a battery bank with me if I'm traveling. Early tests indicate about 6+ hours of screen on time with the Fold 7, which is already better than my Fold 4 and I'm never really hurting for more battery life.
Another worry I have is that my phone is way out of warranty. Almost a year in with my Fold 4, a big black dot appeared in the crease towards the top despite never dropping the phone. The pixels were dead and it was likely due to the inner part of the hinge rubbing on that part of the OLED panel. Thankfully it was replaced for free under warranty with Samsung and they fully replaced the inner screen, outer screen and batteries. However I was out of a phone for 2 weeks. After another 1.5 years, towards the end of 2024, I noticed that parts of the inner screen were starting to get loose around the crease, so I took off the inner screen protector when it started peeling around the crease. Read that is one of the main causes of the black dead pixel line forming on the crease due to the loose screen protector pulling the panel out of place when folding/unfolding. Haven't had any issues since then but I'm concerned about future durability issues as it is nearing 3 years old. Any repairs would cost a minimum of $500-600 so that's basically more than half the cost of this upgrade.
I'll likely purchase Samsung VIP Advantage for $149 to get the free 2yrs of Samsung Care+ which is $259 on its own. The nice thing is that whatever happens to the Fold 7, I can get a new/like-new refurbished unit for $99 and it's shipped within 1-2 business days. I'd rather not have to use it, but that peace of mind is enough to consider going caseless for the first time. I may still get a thin aramid fiber case with an integrated magsafe circle, the Aliexpress ones are basically from the same factory as Latercase or Pitaka. Unsure if I want to get just the back case or both the front and back.
Last point, the Fold 3 has a trade-in value of only $300, so consider that to be the same for the Fold 4 if you plan to wait for the Fold 8 next year. Some people are waiting until Sept-Oct to see if bad sales will bring even better deals than launch. I don't expect it to drop more than $100-200 at most. US Tariff uncertainty and Samsung's market decline is also something to think about, but only time will tell.
Anyway sorry for the long reply, but I think these are the main pain points for people who are on older Folds and are struggling to pull the trigger on upgrading or waiting another year. Seems like people who are on Fold 5 and 6 or are heavy S Pen users are not likely to upgrade yet, but more Fold 3/4 users are inclined to upgrade to the better form factor.
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