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popularSuryasis posted Today 06:11 AM
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Minisforum MS-A1 Refurbished: Ryzen 7 8700G, 32GB DDR5, 1TB Gen4 SSD, USB4, OCuLink, 2x2.5G Lan, Wi-Fi 6E, Win11H @ $475.15 + F/S

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Spec:
  • Ryzen 7 8700G 8C/16T 4.2 GHz (5.1 GHz Boost, 24MB Cache)
  • Radeon 780M Integrated Graphics
  • 32GB (16GBx2) DDR5 SODIMM 5600 MT/s (2 Slots, 96GB max)
  • 1TB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 SSDs
  • 2x PCIe Gen 4x4 M.2 2280 Slot
  • 1x PCIe Gen 3x4 M.2 2280 Slot
  • 1x PCIe Gen 4x1 M.2 2280 Slot
  • 1x M.2 2230 for NIC (Populated)
  • Wi-Fi 6E 2x2 + Bluetooth 5.2
  • Front Ports:
    • 2x USB-A 3.2 Gen 1
    • 1x USB-A 2.0
    • 1x 3.5mm Audio Combo Jack
  • Rear Ports:
    • 1x DC-In (19V 12.63A, 240W)
    • 1x HDMI 2.1
    • 1x DisplayPort 2.0
    • 1x OCulink Dedicated Port
    • 1x USB 4.0 Type-C 40 Gbps (Data + DisplayPort)
    • 1x USB-A 3.2 gen 2 10 Gbps
    • 1x USB-A 2.0
    • 2x Realtek 2.5G RJ-45 supporting link aggregation
Features:
  • Supports Raphael (Ryzen 7000 desktop), Phoenix (Ryzen 8000 series Desktop) and Granite Ridge (Ryzen 9000 series Desktop) Processor
  • The 3 M.2 PCIe Gen 4 SSD bandwidth depends upon the CPU choice as the Phoenix APUs don't offer as many PCIe Gen 4 lanes as the Ryzen 7000 series Desktop Processors. If 8000 series is used, the 2nd PCIe Gen 4x4 Slot will run at Gen 4x2 speed
  • The USB-C Port will offer USB4 functionality only with Ryzen 8000 series APU as it offers native USB4 support. With Ryzen 7000/9000 series Desktop Processors, it will operate as a normal USB 3.2 Gen 2 speed.
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Link: https://refurbished.minisforum.co...7634746657
Coupon: 15% OFF via <b>
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Spec:
  • Ryzen 7 8700G 8C/16T 4.2 GHz (5.1 GHz Boost, 24MB Cache)
  • Radeon 780M Integrated Graphics
  • 32GB (16GBx2) DDR5 SODIMM 5600 MT/s (2 Slots, 96GB max)
  • 1TB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 SSDs
  • 2x PCIe Gen 4x4 M.2 2280 Slot
  • 1x PCIe Gen 3x4 M.2 2280 Slot
  • 1x PCIe Gen 4x1 M.2 2280 Slot
  • 1x M.2 2230 for NIC (Populated)
  • Wi-Fi 6E 2x2 + Bluetooth 5.2
  • Front Ports:
    • 2x USB-A 3.2 Gen 1
    • 1x USB-A 2.0
    • 1x 3.5mm Audio Combo Jack
  • Rear Ports:
    • 1x DC-In (19V 12.63A, 240W)
    • 1x HDMI 2.1
    • 1x DisplayPort 2.0
    • 1x OCulink Dedicated Port
    • 1x USB 4.0 Type-C 40 Gbps (Data + DisplayPort)
    • 1x USB-A 3.2 gen 2 10 Gbps
    • 1x USB-A 2.0
    • 2x Realtek 2.5G RJ-45 supporting link aggregation
Features:
  • Supports Raphael (Ryzen 7000 desktop), Phoenix (Ryzen 8000 series Desktop) and Granite Ridge (Ryzen 9000 series Desktop) Processor
  • The 3 M.2 PCIe Gen 4 SSD bandwidth depends upon the CPU choice as the Phoenix APUs don't offer as many PCIe Gen 4 lanes as the Ryzen 7000 series Desktop Processors. If 8000 series is used, the 2nd PCIe Gen 4x4 Slot will run at Gen 4x2 speed
  • The USB-C Port will offer USB4 functionality only with Ryzen 8000 series APU as it offers native USB4 support. With Ryzen 7000/9000 series Desktop Processors, it will operate as a normal USB 3.2 Gen 2 speed.

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Today 12:19 PM
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Today 12:19 PM
PilsnerpopperToday 12:19 PM
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This is still one of the best performing APUs and is not really available at this price point elsewhere. Should do everything including 1080 gaming quite well. Can also add external GPU down the road via oculink
Today 01:17 PM
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aerosnowToday 01:17 PM
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Darn....OOS
Today 02:46 PM
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m0j0Today 02:46 PM
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Try refreshing. I was able to purchase one.
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jrinco11
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Today 03:08 PM
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Quote from aerosnow :
Darn....OOS
still in stock for me
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Today 04:01 PM
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For those getting something like this to use as a hypervisor, here are some thoughts:
  • Unlike AMD's AM4 CPUs, it appears that most non "F" Ryzen AM5 CPUs include a weak iGPU [wikipedia.org]. This means that a non "G" 7000 or 9000 CPUs can work without a discrete graphics card.
  • Ryzen APUs, desktop CPUs that end in "G", support lower PCIe versions. For example, the AM4 CPUs 5700G and 5600 support PCIe 3 and 4 respectively. The AM5 CPUs 8700G, 7600, and 9600 support PCIe 4, 5, and 5. To put it simply, you get "more PCIe" with the non "G" CPUs.
  • Ryzen APUs likely use more power and generate more heat than similar CPUs for similar workloads because of the beefier iGPU. Especially when running a server OS without at GUI.
  • It's normally much easier to pass through a separate, unused GPU to a VM. If you get an APU, then the additional graphics power of the APU may go unused.
  • Newer Intel CPUs let you split up the iGPU into multiple virtual GPUs, which are much easier to pass through to VMs. I greatly prefer AMD to Intel CPUs in general. But for a homelab, an Intel CPU may be a better choice if you use VMs and have a desire to accelerate video transcoding.
These are just some observations I've made over the past few years. In many scenarios for homelabs, you may be better off getting a non-"G" AM5 CPU.

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