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Logitech G502 HERO SE RGB Wired Optical Gaming Mouse (Black; 910-005728) on sale for
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About this Item:
- HERO Sensor: Next-generation HERO™ sensor with precision tracking up to 25,600 DPI, featuring zero smoothing, filtering, or acceleration.
- Programmable Buttons: 11 customizable buttons for tailored gameplay control.
- Scroll Wheel: Dual-mode hyper-fast scroll wheel for versatile scrolling options.
- Adjustable Weights: Includes up to five 3.6g weights for personalized weight and balance configuration.
- LIGHTSYNC Technology: Customizable RGB lighting that syncs with gameplay, requiring Logitech Gaming Software.
- Mechanical Switch Button Tensioning: Metal spring tensioning system and metal pivot hinges in left and right buttons for crisp, clean clicks with rapid feedback.
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the last time I bought this mouse it still was, but that was about 5 years ago. I've seen claims they've stopped being as bad, but Logitech was using terrible switches for 15 years, so it's going to take a long time for them to regain my trust
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Makes you wonder why they haven't fixed this issue for such a long time. Considering logitech is a reputable company, this doesn't reflect well on them.
Buckle in, because there's a real reason for this, and it's actually not them being evil or cheap. 25 or so years ago they released the Logitech MX500 series, essentially the start of their low-cost reliable gaming mouse brand.For perhaps $40 ($70 today) you could have accurate, precise, and a long-lasting gaming mouse that was substantially better than the mice you were used to using. my k/d ratio improved by 20% simply by switching to this mouse. they followed up with the improved mx510 and the mx518. these mice were so good, they became the backbone of the gaming mouse industry, and it was a mark of quality to use similar parts to them. for our purposes, they made Omron switches famous for gamers. the cheap ones are rated for 10 million clicks, the slightly more expensive ones rated for 50 million clicks, more than a hardcore gamer will do in years. They kept using them throughout their mice, and these are expensive switches, they might cost a whole dollar instead of 5 cents a cheaper one might be. other brands like razer or Microsoft or basically any company a non-enthusiast has heard of also used them because they were the gold standard. Then everybody started having double click problems. while my MX510 outlasted a decade of me playing counterstrike for hours a day, the newer mice developed double click issues very quickly, in about a couple of years. now, as many of us who were cheap learned, the problem appeared to be that the switches developed an oxide coating which degraded the ability of the switch to activate. you clean off the switch and you're good to go for another year or so. this also might explain why Logitech and others weren't catching the problem: they were testing in a relatively low humidity environment, their headquarters is in Switzerland and maybe they do some testing in their California offices in the Bay area. but how could the problem be the switches when they were using the renowned Omron switches from the MX series that everybody knew lasted forever? Well, the early logitechs operated at 5V, but as technology became more refined, the voltage was lowered to increase battery life. This shouldn't be a problem, except the Omron switches aren't rated for the new lower voltages. those 50 million clicks and decades of longevity are for 5V. with the new lower voltages, the oxidation that forms over time will stop the current from flowing, and you get double click issues. modern switches are designed from the beginning for lower voltages, so ironically, a cheap mouse with cheap switches would almost always outlive the expensive gaming mice. and even being unable to diagnose the issue, a lot of gaming mouse outfits got around the issue by only allowing one click on a time period - but the highest end mice are going to want the best specs and allow high speed clicking...Long story short, Logitech often uses switches that are not designed for the voltages they are operated at. Now Logitech is aware of the double click issues, it's probably the most common reason they have to warranty mice. Their higher end mice have long since stopped using these switches because fancier switches aimed precisely at the gaming market have come out, for example optical switches clearly will not have this problem. But in some of their products, these switches remain, and are still causing double click issues, again not because they're evil or cheap, but because they're using quality switches that became an industry standard, even though they're not designed for the modern low-voltage mouse.
I don't need a $30 mouse to last five years, but I beat the shit out of this mouse for years now and it's still awesome.
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the last time I bought this mouse it still was, but that was about 5 years ago. I've seen claims they've stopped being as bad, but Logitech was using terrible switches for 15 years, so it's going to take a long time for them to regain my trust
They weren't using terrible switches. They switched to "upgraded" Omron 50M switches, but ran them at reduced voltage for power efficiency (unified design with wireless mice). The reduced voltage is below Omron's spec, and does not properly penetrate and clear the contact oxide layer.
The switches were upgraded from 20M rated ones, but actually ran worse at the reduced voltage (not straight USB 5v like g500).
There was talk about a class action lawsuit, but Logitech deleted their 50M clicks claim everywhere. The Omron datasheet for the switches they are using shows less than 10M clicks at minimum contact voltage and Logitech is running them even lower than that.
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