Logitech G502 HERO SE RGB Wired Optical Gaming Mouse (Black)

paulk11087

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paulk11087Today 01:04 AM

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Are these still plagued with double click issues after a while?

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koolaid2000

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koolaid2000Today 01:56 AM

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Quote from paulk11087

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Are these still plagued with double click issues after a while?

Absolutely. You need optical switches with logitech. My last 2 logitechs suffered from double click.

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legit143

Today 02:27 AM

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legit143Today 02:27 AM

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I have this mouse and it feels like 30 is still too much for what is essentially highly likely a defective mouse with the double issue.

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OrangeLaborer787

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OrangeLaborer787Today 02:37 AM

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Quote from paulk11087

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Are these still plagued with double click issues after a while?

the last time I bought this mouse it still was, but that was about 5 years ago. I've seen claims they've stopped being as bad, but Logitech was using terrible switches for 15 years, so it's going to take a long time for them to regain my trust

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legit143

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legit143Today 02:43 AM

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Quote from OrangeLaborer787

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the last time I bought this mouse it still was, but that was about 5 years ago. I've seen claims they've stopped being as bad, but Logitech was using terrible switches for 15 years, so it's going to take a long time for them to regain my trust

Makes you wonder why they haven't fixed this issue for such a long time. Considering logitech is a reputable company, this doesn't reflect well on them.

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badcookies

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badcookiesToday 03:24 AM

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they know it exists but they don't care. I have and colleagues have been RMAing various mice for years because of this double clicking issue successfully and the problem still exists. I have 2 of these 502 hero se (one i bought, one from RMA) sitting in a tote somewhere in the off chance I'll actually replace the switch one day.

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jimnasiumwa

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jimnasiumwaToday 03:25 AM

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I switched from a Corsair M65 pro to the Logitech 502. I have not had any issues, and I would not go back to the M65.

OrangeLaborer787

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OrangeLaborer787Today 03:30 AM

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Quote from legit143

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Makes you wonder why they haven't fixed this issue for such a long time. Considering logitech is a reputable company, this doesn't reflect well on them.

Buckle in, because there's a real reason for this, and it's actually not them being evil or cheap. 25 or so years ago they released the Logitech MX500 series, essentially the start of their low-cost reliable gaming mouse brand.For perhaps $40 ($70 today) you could have accurate, precise, and a long-lasting gaming mouse that was substantially better than the mice you were used to using. my k/d ratio improved by 20% simply by switching to this mouse. they followed up with the improved mx510 and the mx518. these mice were so good, they became the backbone of the gaming mouse industry, and it was a mark of quality to use similar parts to them. for our purposes, they made Omron switches famous for gamers. the cheap ones are rated for 10 million clicks, the slightly more expensive ones rated for 50 million clicks, more than a hardcore gamer will do in years. They kept using them throughout their mice, and these are expensive switches, they might cost a whole dollar instead of 5 cents a cheaper one might be. other brands like razer or Microsoft or basically any company a non-enthusiast has heard of also used them because they were the gold standard. Then everybody started having double click problems. while my MX510 outlasted a decade of me playing counterstrike for hours a day, the newer mice developed double click issues very quickly, in about a couple of years. now, as many of us who were cheap learned, the problem appeared to be that the switches developed an oxide coating which degraded the ability of the switch to activate. you clean off the switch and you're good to go for another year or so. this also might explain why Logitech and others weren't catching the problem: they were testing in a relatively low humidity environment, their headquarters is in Switzerland and maybe they do some testing in their California offices in the Bay area. but how could the problem be the switches when they were using the renowned Omron switches from the MX series that everybody knew lasted forever? Well, the early logitechs operated at 5V, but as technology became more refined, the voltage was lowered to increase battery life. This shouldn't be a problem, except the Omron switches aren't rated for the new lower voltages. those 50 million clicks and decades of longevity are for 5V. with the new lower voltages, the oxidation that forms over time will stop the current from flowing, and you get double click issues. modern switches are designed from the beginning for lower voltages, so ironically, a cheap mouse with cheap switches would almost always outlive the expensive gaming mice. and even being unable to diagnose the issue, a lot of gaming mouse outfits got around the issue by only allowing one click on a time period - but the highest end mice are going to want the best specs and allow high speed clicking...Long story short, Logitech often uses switches that are not designed for the voltages they are operated at. Now Logitech is aware of the double click issues, it's probably the most common reason they have to warranty mice. Their higher end mice have long since stopped using these switches because fancier switches aimed precisely at the gaming market have come out, for example optical switches clearly will not have this problem. But in some of their products, these switches remain, and are still causing double click issues, again not because they're evil or cheap, but because they're using quality switches that became an industry standard, even though they're not designed for the modern low-voltage mouse.

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