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momentum voya e+ 3 E-Bike $799

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momentum voya e+ 3 E-bike on sale for $800. Was initially $2400 when it first came out. Pretty excellent price for an e-bike.

Note: only on Large size. $85 for delivery.

https://www.momentum-biking.com/u...J3zTJXg7LU
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momentum voya e+ 3 E-bike on sale for $800. Was initially $2400 when it first came out. Pretty excellent price for an e-bike.

Note: only on Large size. $85 for delivery.

https://www.momentum-biking.com/u...J3zTJXg7LU

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bzoToday 02:19 PM
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Quote from pucksr :
Its a hub motor. That means it isn't really pedal-assist, instead the pedals operate like an on-off switch.
Its junk. Do not buy. If you want an ebike where the motor "assists" you rather than just turning on, get a mid-drive bike like the deal on walmart. They measure the actual power you are putting into the pedals and then give you an additional bit of power. Its seamless and just feels like biking is easier.

If they were ever selling this for $2000 they are insane. This is a sub-$1000 ebike.
Not true, this bike has a torque sensor and applies assist proportional to how hard the pedals are pressed. I have one and it feels very natural and similar to a mid drive ebike. What you describe is a cadence sensor which is what many cheaper hub drive bikes use and those do have more of the on-off assist.

The $2k price is inflated and reflects in being a name brand bike and being the launch price from several years ago. Momentum is a brand of Giant which is first tier brand like Trek or Specialized.

$800 is a very good price for this bike given the torque sensor and the higher quality compared to a no name e-bike. But it is really for a cyclist that wants a some assist and not someone looking for more of an electric moped. The range is pretty low and it does not have a no pedal throttle.
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hellospammoToday 02:21 PM
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People are willing to pay a lot for integrated battery aka clean looks.
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swechslerToday 02:58 PM
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Quote from hellospammo :
People are willing to pay a lot for integrated battery aka clean looks.
But this can be a disadvantage if you live in an apartment and park your bike in a shared space. My building has a bike room, but I can't charge my bike there, so I remove the battery and charge it in my apartment. Can't do that with this one.
On the positive side, since it's a presumably American company, it's more likely that the battery will be UL/ETL rated.
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skeleton516Today 05:51 PM
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sleek looking bike
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pucksrToday 06:12 PM
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Quote from bzo :
Not true, this bike has a torque sensor and applies assist proportional to how hard the pedals are pressed. I have one and it feels very natural and similar to a mid drive ebike. What you describe is a cadence sensor which is what many cheaper hub drive bikes use and those do have more of the on-off assist.

The $2k price is inflated and reflects in being a name brand bike and being the launch price from several years ago. Momentum is a brand of Giant which is first tier brand like Trek or Specialized.

$800 is a very good price for this bike given the torque sensor and the higher quality compared to a no name e-bike. But it is really for a cyclist that wants a some assist and not someone looking for more of an electric moped. The range is pretty low and it does not have a no pedal throttle.
Thanks, I wasnt aware that any hub motor bikes had decently functioning torque sensors.

I guess my concern is how does that even work with a geared system though? That just seems overly complicated, but I guess you could make it work.
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swechslerToday 07:15 PM
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Quote from pucksr :
I guess my concern is how does that even work with a geared system though? That just seems overly complicated, but I guess you could make it work.
Depending on the power setting, the motor multiplies the speed being sent to it by the rider. So if your rear sprocket is turning at say 60rpm, the motor, on the lowest assist setting, might turn the wheel at 65rpm. But of course, the motor is turning as well, so its output is only the additional 5rpm. Those numbers are just guesses, btw. It's not really all that complicated, I have an older (2019) eBike with rear motor and gearing and it works and feels just fine.

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steph280Today 07:16 PM
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Quote from pucksr :
Thanks, I wasnt aware that any hub motor bikes had decently functioning torque sensors.I guess my concern is how does that even work with a geared system though? That just seems overly complicated, but I guess you could make it work.
Lots of hub motor bikes have very well tuned torque sensor pedal assist. Look at Aventon, Lectric Express 500/750 or Ride1up roadster. Aventon's offering even went a step further by adding cadence sensor so you can chose between cadence or torque based on riding conditions.

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