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forum threadf12_26 | Staff posted Yesterday 11:47 PM
forum threadf12_26 | Staff posted Yesterday 11:47 PM

ORICO Daisy Chain 4 Bay USB 3.2 Gen 2 Aluminum Das Hard Drive Enclosure $146.29 + Free Shipping

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Today 12:59 AM
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bearstampedeToday 12:59 AM
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I love paying $450 to daisychain 264TB of storage across 12 spinning disks & limiting the bandwidth to 10gbps.

P.S. The OP should be corrected to say USB 3.1 Gen 2.
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Today 02:25 AM
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nimble7Today 02:25 AM
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Quote from bearstampede :
I love paying $450 to daisychain 264TB of storage across 12 spinning disks & limiting the bandwidth to 10gbps.

P.S. The OP should be corrected to say USB 3.1 Gen 2.
Would you mind elaborating? I'm new to this.
Today 02:30 AM
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TMA-1Today 02:30 AM
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"Support up to 22 TB 3.5-inch SATA hard disks and max up to 88TB capacity" - the 22TB per bay max limit should be taken in to account when thinking about longer term needs, 26 and 28TB drives are coming down in price
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DanLouie2015Today 02:52 AM
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Quote from nimble7 :
Would you mind elaborating? I'm new to this.
I think you can have multiple das and can daisy chain them using usb port. He saying it probably too slow using usb port because of bandwidth restriction.
Today 06:44 AM
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bearstampedeToday 06:44 AM
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Quote from nimble7 :
Would you mind elaborating? I'm new to this.
10Gbps (gigabits/sec) isn't very fast, that's about 1.25 gigabytes/sec; Thunderbolt 4 can push 40Gbps or 8 gigabytes/sec. If you max one of these out, even if you were able to hit theoretical speeds of 10Gbps (you never will for many reasons) it's still 20 hours to transfer off that data, and that's the best case scenario & assumes ALL data is sequential (it never will be) there's no fragmentation (there will be), you're accessing all 4 drives simultaneously (possible if you configure the drives in RAID, but not otherwise AFAIK).

A more realistic estimate is 30 hours PER DRIVE, since SATA read speeds max out at like 300MB/s (theoretically, ONLY if the data is sequential—and it rarely will be) so you can't even come close to the 10Gbps ceiling unless you force concurrent reads across all 4 drives through RAID or some other 3rd party method (this is probably why they didn't bother with anything higher than USB 3.1 Gen 2). You could get the speeds a bit higher with SSDs, but you'll be looking at around $10k for 60TB enterprise SSDs or ~$2400-4000 for 32TB of consumer/prosumer storage.
Today 06:48 AM
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bearstampedeToday 06:48 AM
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Quote from DanLouie2015 :
I think you can have multiple das and can daisy chain them using usb port. He saying it probably too slow using usb port because of bandwidth restriction.
This, but the problem is bad enough even with 1 unit. Daisychaining them makes it worse depending on how you have the drives configured (JBOD "just a bunch of disks" vs RAID)—but even the best-case scenario is bad because it's still SATA drives transferring data over USB.

This might be fine for a normal person without deadlines, but they're pretending these are good for scalability when they're simply not. You could argue it depends on what your idea of "scale" is, but if you're not consistently dealing with well over 50TB of data I'm not sure how this unit makes more sense than a NAS that is network accessible. The LAST thing you want is for the storage device itself to be the bottleneck, and 10Gbps is a pretty low ceiling. With a NAS you could have resources across all 4 disks being accessed by multiple people at all times—the ceiling would still be the drive read speed, but at least you're not hammering ONE machine's data I/O over a single USB port.

I guess I'm being overly critical, but it still bugs me—they even marketed it to Apple people who (no offense) wouldn't have any reason to know any better. Given the price & specs, I would have absolutely zero patience if this enclosure had even ONE issue—especially given that it would be storing my data.
Today 06:55 AM
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DanLouie2015Today 06:55 AM
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Quote from bearstampede :
This, but the problem is bad enough even with 1 unit. Daisychaining them makes it worse depending on how you have the drives configured (JBOD "just a bunch of disks" vs RAID)—but even the best-case scenario is bad because it's still SATA drives transferring data over USB. This might be fine for a normal people, but it's the extra features that bother me because they're pretending these are good for scalability. It depends on what you're idea of "scale" is, but if you're not dealing with well over 50TB of data I'm not sure how this unit makes more sense than a NAS that is network accessible.
Gotcha makes sense

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CleverWeather6968Today 09:02 AM
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Quote from bearstampede :
10Gbps (gigabits/sec) isn't very fast, that's about 1.25 gigabytes/sec; Thunderbolt 4 can push 40Gbps or 8 gigabytes/sec. If you max one of these out, even if you were able to hit theoretical speeds of 10Gbps (you never will for many reasons) it's still 20 hours to transfer off that data, and that's the best case scenario & assumes ALL data is sequential (it never will be) there's no fragmentation (there will be), you're accessing all 4 drives simultaneously (possible if you configure the drives in RAID, but not otherwise AFAIK).

A more realistic estimate is 30 hours PER DRIVE, since SATA read speeds max out at like 300MB/s (theoretically, ONLY if the data is sequential—and it rarely will be) so you can't even come close to the 10Gbps ceiling unless you force concurrent reads across all 4 drives through RAID or some other 3rd party method (this is probably why they didn't bother with anything higher than USB 3.1 Gen 2). You could get the speeds a bit higher with SSDs, but you'll be looking at around $10k for 60TB enterprise SSDs or ~$2400-4000 for 32TB of consumer/prosumer storage.
Why does it even matter ? the specification loaded jargons its like saying we can't travel at speed of light so we should stop exploring ! I understand the adv gimmicks by these orgs, but for home server usage or even diy NAS its more than enough we are not an enterprise working with quantum computing & many have just gigabit home internet connection that's merely 300-500 mbps can't even take advantage of docsis 3.1 that too shared neighbourhood. With all these constraints For home diy NAS you hardly get past 50 mbps of upload speed & 100-150 mbps of downloads. A normal use case user would be fine with these I don't see any thing better offered at the budget with competition.

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