Target[target.com] has DeLonghi Magnifica Start Automatic Coffee Espresso Machine with Milk Frother for $499.99. Shipping is free.
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With the Magnifica Start, enjoying an authentic espresso experience is simple. This fully automatic espresso machine features an easy to navigate design, making it the perfect machine for both beginners and aficionados. Featuring 5 pre-set recipes including espresso, latte macchiato, and cappuccino, the one-touch display panel makes it easier than ever to enjoy your cafe favorites at home. The built-in conical burr grinder and brewing unit deliver the freshest espresso with a perfect grind, dose, and brew every time, leaving you with a rich and aromatic drink. De’Longhi’s proprietary LatteCrema™ Hot System is expertly designed to automatically craft espresso beverages with a long-lasting, silky-smooth foam—with milk or your favorite milk alternatives, like oat, almond, and soy. Clean-up is simple with the auto-clean function and detachable, dishwasher-safe parts. With the Magnifica Start, enjoying your favorite authentic espresso beverages from the comfort of your home is simple.
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Model: DeLonghi Magnifica Start Espresso Machine with LatteCrema System
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Cut n paste from my own reply in another thread. I believe the "Start" has the same internals as the Evo (Costco version).
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Last month, I went thru 3 machines ...the Ninja thru Bestbuy, Philips 3200 full auto on sale at Costco.com and then then the Delongi Magnifica Evo also from Costco.
The ninja made really good coffee but the whole process for one cup of coffee is too tedious. It's a chore inc the cleanup afterwards. Both me/wife work from home and go thru multiple cups of coffee in the mornings so it was just too much work to get a cup of coffee. I returned it to BB.
Next up was the Philips 3200 on sale at Costco.com. I used Lavazza med grind beans (best beans for autos) and used fine grind setting. The thing with automatics is u have to let it "settle down" which usually takes 10-15 cups of coffee grinds so just use cheap coffee and make coffee/espresso and discard it ....do this till u get moist coffee pucks in the waste bin. The Philips was excellent for milk based drinks but the coffee wasn't too hot and kinda weak if u prefer black . My wife was content with it since she drinks mostly froth'ed cofffe drinks. I felt the machine was still lackig , especially black coffee.
I then ordered the Delongi Evo. In terms of over all build quality, Ninja was premium and then Delongi has mix of plastic, stainless steel touches and I felt Philips had little bit too much plastic.
I ran similar process on the Delongi Evo ....this model from Costco is entry level so no GUI screen. To program the machine, it's slightly convoluted (damn those Italians!) but u can program the water temp (unlike the Philips) and set the water hardness. Note this model doesnt come with the water filter but its like $20 at amazon. Using the filter (along with filtered water) means the machine will go longer without the need to descale.
Once the Delongi was "tuned", the coffee is much much stronger than the Philips. The coffee pucks are noticeable bigger (see attached picture). The milk frother is easy to use on the Delongi so its still easy to make drinks like latte/espresso and iced coffee. The water bin and waste bucket is also more spacey on the Delongi VS Philips.
I ended up returning the Philips and kept the Delongi. Been using it for 3 weeks now and we love the cofffee it produces. Highly recommend it. And very easy to clean.
Cut n paste from my own reply in another thread. I believe the "Start" has the same internals as the Evo (Costco version).
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Last month, I went thru 3 machines ...the Ninja thru Bestbuy, Philips 3200 full auto on sale at Costco.com and then then the Delongi Magnifica Evo also from Costco.
The ninja made really good coffee but the whole process for one cup of coffee is too tedious. It's a chore inc the cleanup afterwards. Both me/wife work from home and go thru multiple cups of coffee in the mornings so it was just too much work to get a cup of coffee. I returned it to BB.
Next up was the Philips 3200 on sale at Costco.com. I used Lavazza med grind beans (best beans for autos) and used fine grind setting. The thing with automatics is u have to let it "settle down" which usually takes 10-15 cups of coffee grinds so just use cheap coffee and make coffee/espresso and discard it ....do this till u get moist coffee pucks in the waste bin. The Philips was excellent for milk based drinks but the coffee wasn't too hot and kinda weak if u prefer black . My wife was content with it since she drinks mostly froth'ed cofffe drinks. I felt the machine was still lackig , especially black coffee.
I then ordered the Delongi Evo. In terms of over all build quality, Ninja was premium and then Delongi has mix of plastic, stainless steel touches and I felt Philips had little bit too much plastic.
I ran similar process on the Delongi Evo ....this model from Costco is entry level so no GUI screen. To program the machine, it's slightly convoluted (damn those Italians!) but u can program the water temp (unlike the Philips) and set the water hardness. Note this model doesnt come with the water filter but its like $20 at amazon. Using the filter (along with filtered water) means the machine will go longer without the need to descale.
Once the Delongi was "tuned", the coffee is much much stronger than the Philips. The coffee pucks are noticeable bigger (see attached picture). The milk frother is easy to use on the Delongi so its still easy to make drinks like latte/espresso and iced coffee. The water bin and waste bucket is also more spacey on the Delongi VS Philips.
I ended up returning the Philips and kept the Delongi. Been using it for 3 weeks now and we love the cofffee it produces. Highly recommend it. And very easy to clean.
You can adjust the water temp on the Philips 3000 series. It's a "hidden menu" option that requires you to use the manual but it's definitely present. That said, even at highest temp it's still not really scalding hot like some prefer.
Ninja. Not even comparable. Super automatic doesn't come out any better than a $99 Nespresso machine
I agree a semi auto once dialed in will produce better coffee than this superauto, but a dialed in superauto will definitely be better than capsule coffee. Admittedly Nespresso makes pretty good coffee for being encapsulated in plastic.
I agree a semi auto once dialed in will produce better coffee than this superauto, but a dialed in superauto will definitely be better than capsule coffee. Admittedly Nespresso makes pretty good coffee for being encapsulated in plastic.
I don't like my super auto at all.. Phillips 3200. I wouldn't know where to start dialing it in, basically tastes like weak espresso. Doesn't taste sour though, so I didn't think it was too fine.
Cut n paste from my own reply in another thread. I believe the "Start" has the same internals as the Evo (Costco version).__________Last month, I went thru 3 machines ...the Ninja thru Bestbuy, Philips 3200 full auto on sale at Costco.com and then then the Delongi Magnifica Evo also from Costco.The ninja made really good coffee but the whole process for one cup of coffee is too tedious. It's a chore inc the cleanup afterwards. Both me/wife work from home and go thru multiple cups of coffee in the mornings so it was just too much work to get a cup of coffee. I returned it to BB.Next up was the Philips 3200 on sale at Costco.com. I used Lavazza med grind beans (best beans for autos) and used fine grind setting. The thing with automatics is u have to let it "settle down" which usually takes 10-15 cups of coffee grinds so just use cheap coffee and make coffee/espresso and discard it ....do this till u get moist coffee pucks in the waste bin. The Philips was excellent for milk based drinks but the coffee wasn't too hot and kinda weak if u prefer black . My wife was content with it since she drinks mostly froth'ed cofffe drinks. I felt the machine was still lackig , especially black coffee.I then ordered the Delongi Evo. In terms of over all build quality, Ninja was premium and then Delongi has mix of plastic, stainless steel touches and I felt Philips had little bit too much plastic.I ran similar process on the Delongi Evo ....this model from Costco is entry level so no GUI screen. To program the machine, it's slightly convoluted (damn those Italians!) but u can program the water temp (unlike the Philips) and set the water hardness. Note this model doesnt come with the water filter but its like $20 at amazon. Using the filter (along with filtered water) means the machine will go longer without the need to descale.Once the Delongi was "tuned", the coffee is much much stronger than the Philips. The coffee pucks are noticeable bigger (see attached picture). The milk frother is easy to use on the Delongi so its still easy to make drinks like latte/espresso and iced coffee. The water bin and waste bucket is also more spacey on the Delongi VS Philips.I ended up returning the Philips and kept the Delongi. Been using it for 3 weeks now and we love the cofffee it produces. Highly recommend it. And very easy to clean.
You can adjust the amount of coffee beans and duration per shot
this vs Breville Barista Express Espresso Machine .. which one is better ? I mostly drink black coffee fwiw
Any "barista" semi auto > full automatics.
But question is how much time do u wanna spend making a single cup of coffe per day? I really liked the Ninja but for someone who goes thru 2-3 cups in the morning and one cup in the afternoon, it was too much work. And cleanup. And the delongi makes pretty decent black coffee (the lavazza beans produce a lot of "crema"). My grind setting is set to 2-3 and water temp set to max.
The delongi makes good coffee, makes good frothed drinks and super convenient to use/clean up and this was my main factor for keeping the delongi and returning the Ninja. And your guests can use the machine as well without asking u how to use the grinder on a semi auto.
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I don't like my super auto at all.. Phillips 3200. I wouldn't know where to start dialing it in, basically tastes like weak espresso. Doesn't taste sour though, so I didn't think it was too fine.
I have the Philips 3200 as well. It's mediocre, I agree, but dialed in it produces unquestionably better espresso drinks than Nespresso, not to mention cheaper in the long run (after you account for per capsule cost) and far more environmentally friendly.
Dialing in a superauto only takes five minutes. Basically you need to adjust the grind size, water temp, and water ratio. I suggest this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3dfbfya6C4. Sour espresso is generally from grinding too coarse, not too fine. Too fine will result in a bitter espresso.
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Last month, I went thru 3 machines ...the Ninja thru Bestbuy, Philips 3200 full auto on sale at Costco.com and then then the Delongi Magnifica Evo also from Costco.
The ninja made really good coffee but the whole process for one cup of coffee is too tedious. It's a chore inc the cleanup afterwards. Both me/wife work from home and go thru multiple cups of coffee in the mornings so it was just too much work to get a cup of coffee. I returned it to BB.
Next up was the Philips 3200 on sale at Costco.com. I used Lavazza med grind beans (best beans for autos) and used fine grind setting. The thing with automatics is u have to let it "settle down" which usually takes 10-15 cups of coffee grinds so just use cheap coffee and make coffee/espresso and discard it ....do this till u get moist coffee pucks in the waste bin. The Philips was excellent for milk based drinks but the coffee wasn't too hot and kinda weak if u prefer black . My wife was content with it since she drinks mostly froth'ed cofffe drinks. I felt the machine was still lackig , especially black coffee.
I then ordered the Delongi Evo. In terms of over all build quality, Ninja was premium and then Delongi has mix of plastic, stainless steel touches and I felt Philips had little bit too much plastic.
I ran similar process on the Delongi Evo ....this model from Costco is entry level so no GUI screen. To program the machine, it's slightly convoluted (damn those Italians!) but u can program the water temp (unlike the Philips) and set the water hardness. Note this model doesnt come with the water filter but its like $20 at amazon. Using the filter (along with filtered water) means the machine will go longer without the need to descale.
Once the Delongi was "tuned", the coffee is much much stronger than the Philips. The coffee pucks are noticeable bigger (see attached picture). The milk frother is easy to use on the Delongi so its still easy to make drinks like latte/espresso and iced coffee. The water bin and waste bucket is also more spacey on the Delongi VS Philips.
I ended up returning the Philips and kept the Delongi. Been using it for 3 weeks now and we love the cofffee it produces. Highly recommend it. And very easy to clean.
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Last month, I went thru 3 machines ...the Ninja thru Bestbuy, Philips 3200 full auto on sale at Costco.com and then then the Delongi Magnifica Evo also from Costco.
The ninja made really good coffee but the whole process for one cup of coffee is too tedious. It's a chore inc the cleanup afterwards. Both me/wife work from home and go thru multiple cups of coffee in the mornings so it was just too much work to get a cup of coffee. I returned it to BB.
Next up was the Philips 3200 on sale at Costco.com. I used Lavazza med grind beans (best beans for autos) and used fine grind setting. The thing with automatics is u have to let it "settle down" which usually takes 10-15 cups of coffee grinds so just use cheap coffee and make coffee/espresso and discard it ....do this till u get moist coffee pucks in the waste bin. The Philips was excellent for milk based drinks but the coffee wasn't too hot and kinda weak if u prefer black . My wife was content with it since she drinks mostly froth'ed cofffe drinks. I felt the machine was still lackig , especially black coffee.
I then ordered the Delongi Evo. In terms of over all build quality, Ninja was premium and then Delongi has mix of plastic, stainless steel touches and I felt Philips had little bit too much plastic.
I ran similar process on the Delongi Evo ....this model from Costco is entry level so no GUI screen. To program the machine, it's slightly convoluted (damn those Italians!) but u can program the water temp (unlike the Philips) and set the water hardness. Note this model doesnt come with the water filter but its like $20 at amazon. Using the filter (along with filtered water) means the machine will go longer without the need to descale.
Once the Delongi was "tuned", the coffee is much much stronger than the Philips. The coffee pucks are noticeable bigger (see attached picture). The milk frother is easy to use on the Delongi so its still easy to make drinks like latte/espresso and iced coffee. The water bin and waste bucket is also more spacey on the Delongi VS Philips.
I ended up returning the Philips and kept the Delongi. Been using it for 3 weeks now and we love the cofffee it produces. Highly recommend it. And very easy to clean.
But question is how much time do u wanna spend making a single cup of coffe per day? I really liked the Ninja but for someone who goes thru 2-3 cups in the morning and one cup in the afternoon, it was too much work. And cleanup. And the delongi makes pretty decent black coffee (the lavazza beans produce a lot of "crema"). My grind setting is set to 2-3 and water temp set to max.
I use this one (made in Italy VS the other lavazzo made in us).
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002E2GQU
The delongi makes good coffee, makes good frothed drinks and super convenient to use/clean up and this was my main factor for keeping the delongi and returning the Ninja. And your guests can use the machine as well without asking u how to use the grinder on a semi auto.
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Dialing in a superauto only takes five minutes. Basically you need to adjust the grind size, water temp, and water ratio. I suggest this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3dfbfy
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