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This is untrue. Only other chargers with SPR AVS are Google Pixel and Anker 160W (after firmware update).
Vast majority of compact GaN Anker/Baseus/UGreen chargers also throttle, it's just not advertised. Apple is surprisingly transparent, they could have called this is a 60W charger like competitors.
Apple's chargers are historically some of the best available in both measured performance and durability. There is a YouTube channel that tests out chargers and Apple consistently performs well. Does everyone need great chargers? Not really, but I would say they are worth the price if you care. Anker's chargers vary tremendously in performance.
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Why does this feel like it has an Apple tax on it? There are so many 3rd party adapters that do this exact same, from reputable brands, for less.
Why do you care what others are paying for something I never understand that.But some people want the same brand of the product they brought.Its there choice there money and same Samsungs are just as expensive for there first party one,
But it's bad when compared with their competitors. I got the popular Anker Prime 65w with 3 inputs for the same price and has been very happy with the performance.
Why do you care what others are paying for something I never understand that.But some people want the same brand of the product they brought.Its there choice there money and same Samsungs are just as expensive for there first party one,
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Why do you care what others are paying for something I never understand that.But some people want the same brand of the product they brought.Its there choice there money and same Samsungs are just as expensive for there first party one,
Do you want and care about getting the MOST out of your money? If not then you should not be on this forum. I don't care what brand/models just a long as it gives me what I need and want for the lowest price possible. Everything else is just flexing to impress strangers. I'm loyal to my money not to any specific brand.
But it's bad when compared with their competitors. I got the popular Anker Prime 65w with 3 inputs for the same price and has been very happy with the performance.
Apple's chargers are historically some of the best available in both measured performance and durability. There is a YouTube channel that tests out chargers and Apple consistently performs well. Does everyone need great chargers? Not really, but I would say they are worth the price if you care. Anker's chargers vary tremendously in performance.
Apple's chargers are historically some of the best available in both measured performance and durability. There is a YouTube channel that tests out chargers and Apple consistently performs well. Does everyone need great chargers? Not really, but I would say they are worth the price if you care. Anker's chargers vary tremendously in performance.
For me, I have not used a plug in charger for my iPhone since the iPhone 4. I've been wireless for every iPhone after that. So when Apple decided to not include a charger inside the box, I didn't really care. I've got a wireless dock on a night stand, on my desk, and in my car. My iPhone just gets charge passively without me having to think about it.
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Why do you care what others are paying for something I never understand that.But some people want the same brand of the product they brought.Its there choice there money and same Samsungs are just as expensive for there first party one,
Because some people are so cheap that if they see anyone being a little less frugal they shit all over them and make them feel bad
in reality, they are living in a fantasy world using and buying Temu quality products and wishing they had enough money to buy OEM products
imagine crashing out on Slickdeals because you dont want to pay $5-10 more for a genuine Apple charger, pretty embarrassing
In what world is uGreen and Anker trusted over Apple/Google, in the world of people so cheap they eat half a cheeseburger from McDonalds and leave the other half to reheat for dinner. Two meals for $2 now thats a slickdeal.
Then he makes a long post explaining how he is "loyal to his money and not brands"
Loyal to your money? $10 is a rounding error. Maybe if his money situation was in the proper place he wouldnt have to resort to insulting people for purchasing an OEM charger.
It's a charger if you cant afford it and others can and are willing to pay for it, you just have to move along.
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For me, I have not used a plug in charger for my iPhone since the iPhone 4. I've been wireless for every iPhone after that. So when Apple decided to not include a charger inside the box, I didn't really care. I've got a wireless dock on a night stand, on my desk, and in my car. My iPhone just gets charge passively without me having to think about it.
do your iPhones experience worst battery degradation compare to charging using wire? wireless charging generate enormous heat that will effect battery longevity
do your iPhones experience worst battery degradation compare to charging using wire? wireless charging generate enormous heat that will effect battery longevity
Nope. I've never had a battery go below 80% battery health, and I keep my phones around 5 yrs. Haven't noticed any difference between the wireless charging or when I used to plug in. If I use it enough to drain the battery, I'll plug it in, but that's pretty rare. The wireless chargers I use aren't that high-powered, probably around 7 watts.
My current iPhone XS is probably the longest I've kept an iPhone, and it's at 82% battery health. I'll be upgrading that soon though to an iPhone 17 pro. My iPhone XS didn't get the latest iOS update, and Verizon is offering a deal to switch that's too good to pass up.
It's an apple product for Apple devices. Designed to work together for fast charging. Shocking right? I have the same anker product as you which is not the same as this or as good for fast charging.
It doesn't charge at a different rate than the third-party chargers.
That isn't to say that this isn't a very good charger; the efficiency is high enough that apple is confident in letting it go from 60w to 40w for short periods and it doesn't thermal throttle after either. It's also decent for future proofing and very tiny for what it is. But if you're ok giving up some of the efficiency/size you can wait till USB 3.2 SPR AVS chargers start coming out from third parties to save a bit of cash.
I watched a teardown video of this charger. Apple really lives up to its reputation for using high-quality components—the internal workmanship and materials could truly be described as luxurious.
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Vast majority of compact GaN Anker/Baseus/UGreen chargers also throttle, it's just not advertised. Apple is surprisingly transparent, they could have called this is a 60W charger like competitors.
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in reality, they are living in a fantasy world using and buying Temu quality products and wishing they had enough money to buy OEM products
imagine crashing out on Slickdeals because you dont want to pay $5-10 more for a genuine Apple charger, pretty embarrassing
In what world is uGreen and Anker trusted over Apple/Google, in the world of people so cheap they eat half a cheeseburger from McDonalds and leave the other half to reheat for dinner. Two meals for $2 now thats a slickdeal.
Then he makes a long post explaining how he is "loyal to his money and not brands"
Loyal to your money? $10 is a rounding error. Maybe if his money situation was in the proper place he wouldnt have to resort to insulting people for purchasing an OEM charger.
It's a charger if you cant afford it and others can and are willing to pay for it, you just have to move along.
My current iPhone XS is probably the longest I've kept an iPhone, and it's at 82% battery health. I'll be upgrading that soon though to an iPhone 17 pro. My iPhone XS didn't get the latest iOS update, and Verizon is offering a deal to switch that's too good to pass up.
None of the iPhones use SPR AVS yet https://www.chargerlab.
https://www.chargerlab.
That isn't to say that this isn't a very good charger; the efficiency is high enough that apple is confident in letting it go from 60w to 40w for short periods and it doesn't thermal throttle after either. It's also decent for future proofing and very tiny for what it is. But if you're ok giving up some of the efficiency/size you can wait till USB 3.2 SPR AVS chargers start coming out from third parties to save a bit of cash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYEqCgM
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