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forum threadN3RD_01 posted Yesterday 06:03 AM
Nikon D800 36.3 MP CMOS FX-Format Digital SLR Camera (Body Only) $629.99
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It's an antique DSLR from 2012. Most camera manufacturers don't support or manufacture these anymore, opting for a mirrorless design.
Most likely, unless it says otherwise, such "sales" are gray-box --> meaning they're NOT normally for USA sale. That'll be a MAJOR issue when you need to take it into a repair shop for any repairs....since they won't even be able to order parts for it ("sorry sir/ma'am, the serial number on the cameara is a gray market serial. we can only order replacements with a valid USA serial number. you're up the creek without a paddle.")
That is, if they can even order parts for it! Remember, it's an antique made in 2012. Sure, it'll "take great photos" and whatnot...age doesn't preclude that functionality, but so can pretty much ANY camera from the last 20+ years. "Taking good photos" is such a basic low bar, you have to struggle to find a camera that doesn't do that (like those little keychain charm cameras for $30 -- they're abysmal).
If you choose to get this, break out your CrackerJack (tm)-branded secret decoder ring, because whoooBoyDaddy, you'll have a FUN TIME deciphering which lenses are compatible on which body. Nikon makes this exceptionally complicated -- they're all "F-Mount", but it's FAR more nuanced than "Crop Sensor vs Full Frame" (which is what pretty much every other manufacturer does at most). There's so many different focusing systems, motor systems, exposure controls, etc. Something that might work on one model might not work on another, for reasons of -shrug-.
And you'll need to do homework as to what lens is ideal for you. And hope that specific one is compatible!
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For $1069 at that same gear site, you can get a used Canon R8. A modern, CURRENT GENERATION, full-frame mirrorless body. An absolute value and heavy hitter, giving you full silent operation, 40fps, 15fps pre-burst, 4k uncropped video, and amazing low-light performance. Along with MANY other features.
It has the same autofocusing engine that's in the $6000 sports-grade Canon R3.
It has the same exact sensor and image processor that's in the $2500 pro-tier Canon R6ii.
All for a mere $439 more than this so-called Nikon "deal". Yes, that's an additional chunk of change, but NOT THAT MUCH more, given you're going a decade into the future with features that are like magic compared to a 2012 DSLR. 🤣
And you'll need to do homework as to what lens is ideal for you. And hope that specific one is compatible!
Agree on the previous points that this is an OLD camera and probably overpriced. Lens selection though is pretty straightforward, this camera will accept any F mount lens, even crop (automatically cropping the sensor). That said, you'd want to pick up full-frame lenses (anything not marked DX) will work. This (like every other full-frame Nikon) has a built in focus motor for those older screw-drive lenses.
edit: I wanted to get a "Nikon AF-P DX NIKKOR 10-20mm f/4.5-5.6G VR Lens"...and I had a Nikon D300 camera. Spent the extra dollerydoos for a modern camera, and it had all the compatibility. Screw-drive motor linkages and whatnot.
Nope. AF-P, even with it being for crop sensor, doesn't work on the D300. Because reasons.
Whereas with Canon, you have EF mount. Comes in two flavors -- EF full frame and EF-S crop sensor. That's it. The earliest lenses from the mid-1980s EF-mount film cameras work without issue even on the last EF-mount DSLRs produced. Sure, there might be one or two exceptions -- but they're a rarity, usually reserved for half-baked third party lenses, and you can count them on one hand with fingers to spare.
With Sony, it's even better. E-mount. Bam. There's crop sensor and full-frame, but pretty much any E-mount camera will take either type and adjust accordingly.
Nikon? Break out the secret decoder ring! There's some ancient F-mount manual lenses that will break if you put them on the wrong camera style, because reasons.
When there are SO MANY other camera manufacturers out there with SO MANY lenses to choose from -- and SO MANY of them are excellent to amazing quality, why even take the risk with Nikon? Just pass them by.
Honestly, I still love my D750. I usually shoot with that along side my z6ii.
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From Thom Hogan:
D800/D800E — You avoid this camera for two reasons on the used market: (1) the early factory focus misadjustments; and (2) the weak frame that is easy to break internally without knowing. When you buy used, you don't know if either of things are present. #1 will cost you money to have Nikon "fix" (the fix isn't really a fix, it's a workaround), and #2 isn't fixable if the frame is broken.
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