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This MSI Codex Z2 looks strongest as a factory reconditioned gaming tower with an RTX 5070, 32GB of DDR5 memory, and a 1TB SSD at a time when memory and storage prices are high. The Ryzen 7 8700F is seen as efficient enough that liquid cooling would not add much, and adding a second SSD later is easy if more space is needed. The main concerns are the 180 day MSI warranty, the lack of liquid cooling, and Windows 11 Home instead of Pro. RAM speed may also depend on enabling XMP in BIOS, so the out of box settings deserve a look.
PC gamers who want a strong RTX 5070 setup with 32GB RAM and can live with a smaller 1TB drive because the commenters said it's a good deal for the 32GB RAM, 5070, and 1TB SSD given current memory/SSD pricing.
People who only need enough internal storage for a limited library because commenters said 1TB can work if you don't keep too many games or media files installed at the same time.
Home users who are okay with Windows 11 Home and just want a tested refurb tower because commenters said refurbs are typically thoroughly tested and can be better than new quality.
People who care about Windows edition features (like GPedit/BitLocker) because commenters said Windows 11 Home "killed the deal" for them and that they need finer control for their workflow.
Users who plan to run VMs and are sensitive to privacy/security controls because commenters said virtualization raises privacy/security concerns and they need finer control (GPedit) for that kind of workflow.
Buyers expecting the advertised RAM speed out of the box because one commenter reported BIOS showing 5600MHz instead of the advertised 6000MHz and questioned whether they received what they bought.
People who don't want to tweak BIOS settings to reach full performance because commenters said you usually have to enable XMP in BIOS to get the full RAM speed.
Buyers who want the best value at this price point because commenters argued it isn't worth $1200 and characterized the CPU as essentially a 7840H/Zen 4 with 16MB L3.
It ships with Windows 11 Home, not Pro. That matters for buyers who want features like Group Policy, BitLocker, or more control for VMs and remote management; a Pro upgrade is about $99.
The RTX 5070, 32GB RAM, and 1TB SSD make it a strong value at current memory and SSD prices. The main tradeoffs are the factory-refurbished status, 180-day MSI warranty, and the lack of liquid cooling.
The 1TB SSD is workable if you do not keep many large games or media files installed at once. If you need more space, adding a second SSD is easy, or you can use cheaper external USB storage.
No liquid cooling is listed, and the 8700F's 65W TDP means an AIO would not provide much benefit anyway. The system is being judged as fine with standard cooling for this CPU.
One buyer saw the BIOS report 5600MHz instead of 6000MHz, so the kit may not be running at its rated speed by default. Enabling XMP in BIOS is usually needed to get full RAM speed.
Not a bad deal, but I will pass due 1TB SSD, no liquid cooling and "Warranty: 180 Day MSI Warranty".
It's a good deal for the 32GB RAM, 5070 and 1TB SSD considering the cost of memory and storage now. Liquid cooling is overrated, especially for an 8700F.
It's a good deal for the 32GB RAM, 5070 and 1TB SSD considering the cost of memory and storage now. Liquid cooling is overrated, especially for an 8700F.
Your right, 65w TDP for a desktop CPU is not going to benefit from a AIO.
Not a bad deal, but I will pass due 1TB SSD, no liquid cooling and "Warranty: 180 Day MSI Warranty".
Considering how SSD prices are skyrocketing, people should just take what they can get, and expand their overall storage with cheaper external USB drives.
1TB can work if you don't keep too many games installed at the same time, or download too many media files.
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Windows 11 HOME? Refurbs are typically great (especially for tower PCs) - they're thoroughly tested, sometimes better than new quality (especially if listed in excellent condition). But this thing is a low-budget machine sold at a high price- maybe a reasonable price these days. I usually prefer refurbs, and have never, ever had any issue (I recently retired one after 11 years of circuit and PCB design and software development on it).
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Windows 11 HOME? Refurbs are typically great (especially for tower PCs) - they're thoroughly tested, sometimes better than new quality (especially if listed in excellent condition). But this thing is a low-budget machine sold at a high price- maybe a reasonable price these days. I usually prefer refurbs, and have never, ever had any issue (I recently retired one after 11 years of circuit and PCB design and software development on it).
Agree. I was going to recommend this to some people, but the Win11 Home killed the deal for me.
Yes, several VMs, but more privacy and security concerns. I need much finer control of my machine. GPedit is important.
That's fair, for most people it doesn't matter that much; but I do understand when a professional user is like "Nah this is why" like alright..
That being said, Win11 Pro is like $99 for a "Win Pro Upgrade"
That's fair, for most people it doesn't matter that much; but I do understand when a professional user is like "Nah this is why" like alright..
That being said, Win11 Pro is like $99 for a "Win Pro Upgrade"
I can get it cheaper, MSI, much cheaper. They didn't install that in these.
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This MSI Codex Z2 looks strongest as a factory reconditioned gaming tower with an RTX 5070, 32GB of DDR5 memory, and a 1TB SSD at a time when memory and storage prices are high. The Ryzen 7 8700F is seen as efficient enough that liquid cooling would not add much, and adding a second SSD later is easy if more space is needed. The main concerns are the 180 day MSI warranty, the lack of liquid cooling, and Windows 11 Home instead of Pro. RAM speed may also depend on enabling XMP in BIOS, so the out of box settings deserve a look.
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It ships with Windows 11 Home, not Pro. That matters for buyers who want features like Group Policy, BitLocker, or more control for VMs and remote management; a Pro upgrade is about $99.
The RTX 5070, 32GB RAM, and 1TB SSD make it a strong value at current memory and SSD prices. The main tradeoffs are the factory-refurbished status, 180-day MSI warranty, and the lack of liquid cooling.
The 1TB SSD is workable if you do not keep many large games or media files installed at once. If you need more space, adding a second SSD is easy, or you can use cheaper external USB storage.
No liquid cooling is listed, and the 8700F's 65W TDP means an AIO would not provide much benefit anyway. The system is being judged as fine with standard cooling for this CPU.
One buyer saw the BIOS report 5600MHz instead of 6000MHz, so the kit may not be running at its rated speed by default. Enabling XMP in BIOS is usually needed to get full RAM speed.
Yes, adding a second SSD for games or data is easy. That makes the included 1TB drive less limiting if you want to expand later.
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1TB can work if you don't keep too many games installed at the same time, or download too many media files.
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That being said, Win11 Pro is like $99 for a "Win Pro Upgrade"
That being said, Win11 Pro is like $99 for a "Win Pro Upgrade"
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