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Our community has rated this post as helpful. If you agree, why not thank GeoffreyK24

Personally, I would recommend avoiding Lenovo Android products like the plague. They have a long track record of developing and manufacturing really compelling Android products at really good prices and then pretty much abandoning them by way of support and security updates. Updates that are pushed have a tendency to pick and choose which security holes to patch and ignore the rest. Their own forums are filled with people who went in-depth analyzing the logs of what Google provides to Lenovo and then what Lenovo actually chose to update. Lenovo reps talked around it and ignored them constantly.

I really like a lot of their products and have several Chromebooks by Lenovo but companies who are licensed to use Android are basically in charge of how they push their security patches and system updates and Lenovo has proven for years that they aren't willing to respect their customers enough to follow up with appropriate support in this way. Until they can prove over a good length of time that they have changed the way they handle their android products, I won't let myself buy them. I'm not judging anyone that does. I'm just sharing why I decided to stop.
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Quote from GeoffreyK24 :
Personally, I would recommend avoiding Lenovo Android products like the plague. They have a long track record of developing and manufacturing really compelling Android products at really good prices and then pretty much abandoning them by way of support and security updates. Updates that are pushed have a tendency to pick and choose which security holes to patch and ignore the rest. Their own forums are filled with people who went in-depth analyzing the logs of what Google provides to Lenovo and then what Lenovo actually chose to update. Lenovo reps talked around it and ignored them constantly.

I really like a lot of their products and have several Chromebooks by Lenovo but companies who are licensed to use Android are basically in charge of how they push their security patches and system updates and Lenovo has proven for years that they aren't willing to respect their customers enough to follow up with appropriate support in this way. Until they can prove over a good length of time that they have changed the way they handle their android products, I won't let myself buy them. I'm not judging anyone that does. I'm just sharing why I decided to stop.
I think the blame is with Google. Why are they not taking any responsibility and pushing it all down to the hardware manufacturers?Microsoft is not saying dell or hp or ASUS gets to choose which updates to push right? I think this should be the same. Standardize the fing hardware config and start pushing the updates. Stop with this Wild West madness in the name of 'accessibility'. It's just producing ewaste. Nobody is benefiting.
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joshuaNHYesterday 03:43 PM
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Quote from GeoffreyK24 :
Personally, I would recommend avoiding Lenovo Android products like the plague. They have a long track record of developing and manufacturing really compelling Android products at really good prices and then pretty much abandoning them by way of support and security updates. Updates that are pushed have a tendency to pick and choose which security holes to patch and ignore the rest. Their own forums are filled with people who went in-depth analyzing the logs of what Google provides to Lenovo and then what Lenovo actually chose to update. Lenovo reps talked around it and ignored them constantly.

I really like a lot of their products and have several Chromebooks by Lenovo but companies who are licensed to use Android are basically in charge of how they push their security patches and system updates and Lenovo has proven for years that they aren't willing to respect their customers enough to follow up with appropriate support in this way. Until they can prove over a good length of time that they have changed the way they handle their android products, I won't let myself buy them. I'm not judging anyone that does. I'm just sharing why I decided to stop.
no matter how bad you claim Lenovo is... Samsung is so much worse.
Lenovo's Advantage: Lenovo uses a version of Android that is much closer to "Stock" (Google's original version). Because they have fewer custom features, they have fewer proprietary bugs to fix.
From looking back in the last year... it is Samsung that has screwed up over and over and over and over again.... That is, this Lenovo tablet was safer to have then any Samsung Tablet due to multiple vulnerabilities... and ones that are still going on.
AND this is Lenovo's lowest level tablet... they put more time and effort on their higher end tablets.. like every other manufacturer.
Look, if you are worried... get yourself a Pixel, GOogle just added two years of more security downloads.
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joshuaNHYesterday 03:48 PM
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Quote from sr27 :
I think the blame is with Google. Why are they not taking any responsibility and pushing it all down to the hardware manufacturers?Microsoft is not saying dell or hp or ASUS gets to choose which updates to push right? I think this should be the same. Standardize the fing hardware config and start pushing the updates. Stop with this Wild West madness in the name of 'accessibility'. It's just producing ewaste. Nobody is benefiting.
With every manufacturer putting on their flare such as Samsung's One UI... what you just said becomes impossible. But, yes... this is a huge problem with Android. Perhaps, this will be solved with the new google OS which is expected in the next two years.

I believe the closer to google's OS the better or at least the less chance of getting hacked.

Right now... the only device that gets ALL the updates is a GOOGLE DEVICE. I personally can not trust or rely on any manufacture with IMHO... Samsung being the worst of the bunch.

I think this is a great starter tablet.
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Quote from sr27 :
I think the blame is with Google. Why are they not taking any responsibility and pushing it all down to the hardware manufacturers?Microsoft is not saying dell or hp or ASUS gets to choose which updates to push right? I think this should be the same. Standardize the fing hardware config and start pushing the updates. Stop with this Wild West madness in the name of 'accessibility'. It's just producing ewaste. Nobody is benefiting.
What you are talking about is Apple lol. Why would Google license other brands to use Android operating system if they could only make a Pixel phone?
Google provides all companies who license Android with complete reports of vulnerabilities and version updates for them to handle. They provide a UI that allows for extreme variation in hardware and skins which is why there are such vast differences in brands and models. That amount of variability means EVERYONE is benefiting because it creates competition within the ecosystem as different brands/models push out newer capabilities. Even Apple benefits from this as Apple and Android have both progressed off of the other's advances. When a company develops a phone that folds or has crazy camera hardware that pushes the limits of what was thought possible for a phone, the company who manufactured that specific device has to be the one to implement any updates because they have a level of customization that requires special attention to cater to their UI and hardware. That also means that they can choose to be like Lenovo has been and put out great products that have little support on the back end. It is up to the consumer to buy products from companies that will maintain devices their customers have chosen to invest in. Sometimes, people simply don't know this exists and it might take one post on Slickdeals for them to be made aware so they can decide for themselves whether or not they will buy a product like this or not.
Google maintains the ability to control updates for Chrome which is why those devices are constantly getting updates right away.
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Quote from joshuaNH :
no matter how bad you claim Lenovo is... Samsung is so much worse. Lenovo's Advantage: Lenovo uses a version of Android that is much closer to "Stock" (Google's original version). Because they have fewer custom features, they have fewer proprietary bugs to fix.From looking back in the last year... it is Samsung that has screwed up over and over and over and over again.... That is, this Lenovo tablet was safer to have then any Samsung Tablet due to multiple vulnerabilities... and ones that are still going on. AND this is Lenovo's lowest level tablet... they put more time and effort on their higher end tablets.. like every other manufacturer. Look, if you are worried... get yourself a Pixel, GOogle just added two years of more security downloads.
I'm honestly not sure what you are so fired up about but I'm also not convinced you really know what you are talking about. The fact that you stated that this is Lenovo's "lowest level tablet" is wildly incorrect and further justifies my hesitancy in giving your claims any credibility.
I won't claim to be an industry insider and up to date on every android tablet development from every major player but the issues with Lenovo are ones that have plagued their android products for years. As for telling me, "look, if you are worried... get yourself....", thank you for your permission to buy what I'm comfortable with lol. I'm not sure that was ever a factor in question here but I'm glad we are on the same page.
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Quote from joshuaNH :
With every manufacturer putting on their flare such as Samsung's One UI... what you just said becomes impossible. But, yes... this is a huge problem with Android. Perhaps, this will be solved with the new google OS which is expected in the next two years. I believe the closer to google's OS the better or at least the less chance of getting hacked. Right now... the only device that gets ALL the updates is a GOOGLE DEVICE. I personally can not trust or rely on any manufacture with IMHO... Samsung being the worst of the bunch. I think this is a great starter tablet.
I'm not sure where you are drawing these conclusions from regarding Samsung being one of the worst but they have actually gone from having a poor update reliability to being one of the fastest and most reliable brands to update their devices over the last decade. It was a huge (and well deserved) criticism of the brand in years past and it is actually continuously praised amongst tech enthusiasts that they put so much energy into turning that around in such a powerful and effective way. As for what I had said being impossible because of variability, I'm not sure which aspect of what I actually said you are referring to. If you mean that it isn't possible for manufacturers to push updates and security patches for their UI that covers what Google gives them in their reports, it is entirely possible. It is simply a question of how much resources a company wants to invest in implementing those updates into their devices. They have to use the information to cater those patches to their individual UI just the same as they did when they made the original version that the product released with. That takes time and energy. Lenovo chooses to develop new products that sell more than support the devices appropriately that they have already released. That's all.
I don't agree that variability of models and brand innovation is a "huge" problem with Android as much as a natural development of an OS that is made this way. It is up to the consumer to educate themselves and stay aware of what the brands are doing to support that customer's investment in their technology just like any other major product out there. If you have a choice to buy a car from a company known to have vulnerabilities and safety issues just because they are less expensive, that is your right. The answer will never be to make every vehicle nearly identical. That's not how companies operate and it isn't how innovation flourishes. Idealism is not always realistic. However, the vanilla Android OS is always under the hood just like their are manufacturing laws associated with safety requirements to make a vehicle street legal.

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Quote from sr27 :
I think the blame is with Google. Why are they not taking any responsibility and pushing it all down to the hardware manufacturers?Microsoft is not saying dell or hp or ASUS gets to choose which updates to push right? I think this should be the same. Standardize the fing hardware config and start pushing the updates. Stop with this Wild West madness in the name of 'accessibility'. It's just producing ewaste. Nobody is benefiting.
This guy sure knows how to light a fire in an Android thread.
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Quote from GeoffreyK24 :
I'm not sure where you are drawing these conclusions from regarding Samsung being one of the worst but they have actually gone from having a poor update reliability to being one of the fastest and most reliable brands to update their devices over the last decade. It was a huge (and well deserved) criticism of the brand in years past and it is actually continuously praised amongst tech enthusiasts that they put so much energy into turning that around in such a powerful and effective way. As for what I had said being impossible because of variability, I'm not sure which aspect of what I actually said you are referring to. If you mean that it isn't possible for manufacturers to push updates and security patches for their UI that covers what Google gives them in their reports, it is entirely possible. It is simply a question of how much resources a company wants to invest in implementing those updates into their devices. They have to use the information to cater those patches to their individual UI just the same as they did when they made the original version that the product released with. That takes time and energy. Lenovo chooses to develop new products that sell more than support the devices appropriately that they have already released. That's all.
I don't agree that variability of models and brand innovation is a "huge" problem with Android as much as a natural development of an OS that is made this way. It is up to the consumer to educate themselves and stay aware of what the brands are doing to support that customer's investment in their technology just like any other major product out there. If you have a choice to buy a car from a company known to have vulnerabilities and safety issues just because they are less expensive, that is your right. The answer will never be to make every vehicle nearly identical. That's not how companies operate and it isn't how innovation flourishes. Idealism is not always realistic. However, the vanilla Android OS is always under the hood just like their are manufacturing laws associated with safety requirements to make a vehicle street legal.
Don't even know where to start but I will try... Regarding Samsung and the last year, they have had the most vulnerable products around. And the A11 is the first tablet sold in the USA that has app cloud app integrated within the OS. Because Samsung has put such a flair "you may call brand recondition" on their OS, many actual google security patches do not get through and there are many Samsung only security patches that are needed.

Right now, users are reporting that their tablets are still stuck on the July or September 2025 versions because Samsung has blocked google play system services from updating which has created many security risks for only Samsung users... that is, that piece of shit Chinese tablet is not as vulnerable as that Samsung because Samsung has blocked google's app updates, so I tested this out, and I opened my Redmagic Astra Gaming Tablet and guess what, I was at January 2026 (the app just updates by itself, keeps me safe at night).

Look here is a AI anology of a Samsung Tablet and an Alldocube Iplay 60 Mini Turbo...
The Samsung Galaxy: The Compromised Mega-Bank

Imagine a bank so massive it has 500 tellers. Samsung (especially on their budget/mid-range tablets) doesn't just hire their own tellers; they rent out desks to third parties.

The Problem: One desk is rented to Microsoft (Office/OneDrive), another to Meta (Facebook), another to a weather app company, and another to a "utility" app like AppCloud or Glance.

The Security Risk: Even if Samsung's main vault is high-tech, each one of those 500 tellers has their own key to a side door. If the "Weather App" teller leaves their door unlocked, a hacker doesn't need to crack Samsung's vault—they just walk in through the weather app.

The "Attack Surface": Because there are so many third-party apps touching the UI, there are 500 potential points of failure. Even with monthly security patches, you are constantly playing "Whack-A-Mole" trying to close all those doors.

The Alldocube iPlay 60 Mini Turbo: The Locked Barn

Now, look at the Alldocube iPlay 60 Mini Turbo. It's like a simple, sturdy stone barn with one heavy door.

The Setup: There are no third-party tellers. There's no Microsoft desk, no Facebook desk, and no "Recommended Apps" salesperson standing in the lobby. It's just "Stock Android"—the bare essentials.

The Security Paradox: Even though the "Barn" might only get a security update once every six months (or never), there is only one door to guard. Because the OS is so "lean" and "clean," there are fewer places for a virus to hide and fewer "side doors" for a hacker to exploit.

The "Clean OS" Edge: In security terms, "Complexity is the enemy of security." Samsung is complex; Alldocube is simple.

Why the "Clean" Alldocube Feels Safer

No Spyware Bloat: Recent reports have flagged Samsung's "AppCloud" as intrusive, essentially acting like pre-installed "legal spyware" that tracks user data. Alldocube doesn't have the budget or the partnerships to install that kind of deep-level tracking.

Zero Background Chatter: On a Samsung, 50 apps are "talking" to servers in the background. On the iPlay 60 Mini Turbo, the "lobby" is empty. If nothing is running, there's nothing to hijack.

The "One Door" Rule: A hacker looking for a way in will choose the building with 500 windows (Samsung) over the windowless stone room (Alldocube), even if the stone room's lock is a year old.

The Bottom Line: Samsung gives you a "Safe" with a thousand holes in it. Alldocube gives you a "Box" with no holes at all.

You may ask, what would happen if I use a really good firewall with my alldocube tablet? If you pair that Alldocube iPlay 60 Mini Turbo with a good firewall, you effectively turn that "one-door barn" into a fortress with a moat.
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Quote from sr27 :
I think the blame is with Google. Why are they not taking any responsibility and pushing it all down to the hardware manufacturers?Microsoft is not saying dell or hp or ASUS gets to choose which updates to push right? I think this should be the same. Standardize the fing hardware config and start pushing the updates. Stop with this Wild West madness in the name of 'accessibility'. It's just producing ewaste. Nobody is benefiting.
Google is an advertising company first and for most. Google pays Samsung like 15 - 20 billion dollars a year so they have Chrome, Gemini and other google play services on their tablets. This is what the European Union tried to stop. And google pays apple over 20 billion. I am sure based on market share.... google pays a heck of a lot of people. So you go to Youtube and google hits you with advertisement.

So lets go back to Google paying Samsung 15-20 Billion... basically, Google has no power and must pay. Samsung has the power and they would rather control information and sell you hardware. They have tried to force simple thing down Samsung's throat and Samsung resisted many times all to save a few pennies.

For nearly 10 years, Google has tried to force Samsung to stop "over-building" their UI because it breaks the way Android is supposed to stay secure. While Google wants a clean, fast update path, Samsung has fought to keep their system complex because that complexity allows them to keep their own apps (Bixby, Samsung Pay) and their third-party deals (the paid "tellers") at the center of the experience.

Here is how that decade-long struggle actually played out:
1. The "Seamless Updates" Battle (2016–2024)

This is the most famous example of Samsung's resistance.

The Tech: In 2016, Google introduced "A/B Partitions" (Seamless Updates). It allows a device to install an update in the background while you keep using it.

The Holdout: Every other major brand (including small ones like Alldocube) adopted it. Samsung refused for 8 years.

Why? Samsung didn't want to give up the storage space required for the second partition, and they wanted to keep their custom "ODIN" installation method. They only finally caved in March 2024 with the Galaxy A55 and the S25 series in 2025.

2. The "Play System Update" Blockade (2025–2026)

As of right now in 2026, there is a new conflict. Users have noticed that even on the newest Galaxy S25, the Google Play System Updates are months behind.

Google's Goal: Google wants to update core security features (like privacy tools and theft protection) directly, bypassing Samsung entirely.

Samsung's Interference: Samsung recently confirmed they intentionally delay these updates. They claim they need to "test" them to make sure Google's code doesn't break Samsung's custom UI.

The Reality: This creates exactly the vulnerability you mentioned. Even if Google has a fix ready for a security flaw, it sits in a "waiting room" because Samsung won't let it through the door.

3. Project Treble: The Failed Peace Treaty

In 2017, Google launched Project Treble to force a separation between the "Android Foundation" and the "Samsung Wallpaper."

The Hope: Google thought this would make updates instant.

The Result: Samsung just built a bigger, more complex "wallpaper" (One UI). Because Samsung modifies so much of the core framework to accommodate their 500+ background processes, they still have to manually re-code every update.
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Google is an advertising company first and for most. Google pays Samsung like 15 - 20 billion dollars a year so they have Chrome, Gemini and other google play services on their tablets. This is what the European Union tried to stop. And google pays apple over 20 billion. I am sure based on market share.... google pays a heck of a lot of people. So you go to Youtube and google hits you with advertisement.

So lets go back to Google paying Samsung 15-20 Billion... basically, Google has no power and must pay. Samsung has the power and they would rather control information and sell you hardware. They have tried to force simple thing down Samsung's throat and Samsung resisted many times all to save a few pennies.

For nearly 10 years, Google has tried to force Samsung to stop "over-building" their UI because it breaks the way Android is supposed to stay secure. While Google wants a clean, fast update path, Samsung has fought to keep their system complex because that complexity allows them to keep their own apps (Bixby, Samsung Pay) and their third-party deals (the paid "tellers") at the center of the experience.

Here is how that decade-long struggle actually played out:
1. The "Seamless Updates" Battle (2016–2024)

This is the most famous example of Samsung's resistance.

The Tech: In 2016, Google introduced "A/B Partitions" (Seamless Updates). It allows a device to install an update in the background while you keep using it.

The Holdout: Every other major brand (including small ones like Alldocube) adopted it. Samsung refused for 8 years.

Why? Samsung didn't want to give up the storage space required for the second partition, and they wanted to keep their custom "ODIN" installation method. They only finally caved in March 2024 with the Galaxy A55 and the S25 series in 2025.

2. The "Play System Update" Blockade (2025–2026)

As of right now in 2026, there is a new conflict. Users have noticed that even on the newest Galaxy S25, the Google Play System Updates are months behind.

Google's Goal: Google wants to update core security features (like privacy tools and theft protection) directly, bypassing Samsung entirely.

Samsung's Interference: Samsung recently confirmed they intentionally delay these updates. They claim they need to "test" them to make sure Google's code doesn't break Samsung's custom UI.

The Reality: This creates exactly the vulnerability you mentioned. Even if Google has a fix ready for a security flaw, it sits in a "waiting room" because Samsung won't let it through the door.

3. Project Treble: The Failed Peace Treaty

In 2017, Google launched Project Treble to force a separation between the "Android Foundation" and the "Samsung Wallpaper."

The Hope: Google thought this would make updates instant.

The Result: Samsung just built a bigger, more complex "wallpaper" (One UI). Because Samsung modifies so much of the core framework to accommodate their 500+ background processes, they still have to manually re-code every update.
Wow. Thank you for that insight. I am with Google on the updates. They should be able to set baselines and drop support for manufacturers that don't follow their requirements. At the end of the day, these Samsungs and Lenovos are putting the consumers at risk.
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Wow. Thank you for that insight. I am with Google on the updates. They should be able to set baselines and drop support for manufacturers that don't follow their requirements. At the end of the day, these Samsungs and Lenovos are putting the consumers at risk.
I never said... Lenovo. Lenovo has very little bloatware and is very close to stock.

It is Samsung... the largest market share in the USA.
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I have read your comments and have a question. I am looking for an inexpensive tablet that will allow me to transfer all my apps- data over to. I am 77 years old and dont need anything fancy!. I dont play games etc. ANY SUGGESTIONS! PLEASE- JUST HAVING A HARD TIME SEEING MY IPHONE@! THANKS ! I WAS LOOKING AT THE sAMSUNG a9!
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Looks like a solid choice for my daughter. She just plays roblox or 99 nights(or whatever it's called). I like that it comes with a pen so she can draw. Is there really anything better in that price range?

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Quote from GeoffreyK24 :
Personally, I would recommend avoiding Lenovo Android products like the plague. They have a long track record of developing and manufacturing really compelling Android products at really good prices and then pretty much abandoning them by way of support and security updates. Updates that are pushed have a tendency to pick and choose which security holes to patch and ignore the rest. Their own forums are filled with people who went in-depth analyzing the logs of what Google provides to Lenovo and then what Lenovo actually chose to update. Lenovo reps talked around it and ignored them constantly. I really like a lot of their products and have several Chromebooks by Lenovo but companies who are licensed to use Android are basically in charge of how they push their security patches and system updates and Lenovo has proven for years that they aren't willing to respect their customers enough to follow up with appropriate support in this way. Until they can prove over a good length of time that they have changed the way they handle their android products, I won't let myself buy them. I'm not judging anyone that does. I'm just sharing why I decided to stop.
They don't have support like Samsung, for example, but they also don't have bloateare like Samsung. This is a very good tablet at a reasonable price. Samsung tablets are fantastic, but significantly overpriced.

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