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HIFIMAN SUNDARA Over-Ear Open-Back Planar Magnetic HiFi Wired Headphones (Black)

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HIFIMAN Local Store via AliExpress has HIFIMAN SUNDARA Over-Ear Full-Size Open-Back Planar Magnetic HiFi Stereo Wired Headphones (Black) for $126.56 - $15 when you apply promo code USDEAL015 at checkout = $111.56. Shipping is free.

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Note: Price may fluctuate slightly with currency exchange rates. You must be signed into your AliExpress account and have your address added to add items to your cart and place an order. You may have to manually type in the promo code to apply it at checkout. This item ships from a USA warehouse. For expedited customer service, please email [email protected].

About this item:
  • Featuring Newly Developed Diaphragm that is 80% Thinner than the HE400 Series Resulting in a Wider Frequency Response, Faster and More Detailed
  • With the weight spreading strap for outstanding comfort but with a more fashion conscious look with its sleek and sumptuous matte black finish.
  • With its all metal headband the SUNDARA is built to take the rigours of urban street life. The SUNDARA is as tough as it is beautiful.
  • New 3.5mm Headphone connector for enhanced durability
  • The slimline SuperMini is the perfect on the partner for the SUNDARA. The SuperMini with its abundance of audio power output and the SUNDARA's grace and poise makes them the velvet glove over a marble fist.

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  • Our research indicates that this deal is $67.44 less (37.7% savings) than the next best available price from a reputable merchant with prices starting from $179 at the time of this post.
  • Please see the original post for additional details & give the WIKI and additional forum comments a read for helpful discussion.

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HIFIMAN Local Store via AliExpress has HIFIMAN SUNDARA Over-Ear Full-Size Open-Back Planar Magnetic HiFi Stereo Wired Headphones (Black) for $126.56 - $15 when you apply promo code USDEAL015 at checkout = $111.56. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member shivster1796 for finding this deal.

Note: Price may fluctuate slightly with currency exchange rates. You must be signed into your AliExpress account and have your address added to add items to your cart and place an order. You may have to manually type in the promo code to apply it at checkout. This item ships from a USA warehouse. For expedited customer service, please email [email protected].

About this item:
  • Featuring Newly Developed Diaphragm that is 80% Thinner than the HE400 Series Resulting in a Wider Frequency Response, Faster and More Detailed
  • With the weight spreading strap for outstanding comfort but with a more fashion conscious look with its sleek and sumptuous matte black finish.
  • With its all metal headband the SUNDARA is built to take the rigours of urban street life. The SUNDARA is as tough as it is beautiful.
  • New 3.5mm Headphone connector for enhanced durability
  • The slimline SuperMini is the perfect on the partner for the SUNDARA. The SuperMini with its abundance of audio power output and the SUNDARA's grace and poise makes them the velvet glove over a marble fist.

Editor's Notes

Written by StrawMan86 | Staff
  • Our research indicates that this deal is $67.44 less (37.7% savings) than the next best available price from a reputable merchant with prices starting from $179 at the time of this post.
  • Please see the original post for additional details & give the WIKI and additional forum comments a read for helpful discussion.

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Yesterday 02:36 PM
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BluntBlaster420Yesterday 02:36 PM
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Imo these are a steal at this price. Sub bass is attenuated, but overall these are relatively flat and neutral, especially at this price point. Sound stage and stereo imaging are superb (I have had to take off these headphones more than once to verify whether or not a sound was actually occurring in real life... seriously, they're that realistic). Just make sure you put them through their paces early on, because Hifiman QC can be hit or miss. I paid a higher price for a refurb pair, and I'm quite happy with them. At this price for a new pair, I'm not gonna talk anyone out of this deal!
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Yesterday 03:01 PM
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Joined Jul 2009
alphakp295Yesterday 03:01 PM
945 Posts
Any experience with this vs hd6xx?
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Yesterday 04:35 PM
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greenwichYesterday 04:35 PM
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Audio is subjective, but to me, the HiFiMAN Sundara is overly forward and highly fatiguing. And for the record, I ran it on a quality amplifier.
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Yesterday 05:31 PM
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Joined Nov 2013
crudo20Yesterday 05:31 PM
288 Posts
Quote from greenwich :
Audio is subjective, but to me, the HiFiMAN Sundara is overly forward and highly fatiguing. And for the record, I ran it on a quality amplifier.
FWIW, I don't think anyone can really listen to anything without EQ, and not sure if you were applying EQ or not to your quality amplifier. Music is engineered more or less badly to sound a certain way to appeal to the average masses... and everyone has their own preferences / shapes of ear canals / sensitivities to particular frequencies, etc.
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Yesterday 06:10 PM
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Joined Nov 2012
balloonsharkYesterday 06:10 PM
5,930 Posts
I paid $193.50 for a used pair in 2022. This is an amazing deal on a good set of headphones. You will need a dac/amp to power these.


If you have a really small head like me you may also need to use some padding to get them to fit.
Yesterday 07:07 PM
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Joined Apr 2013
MasterMike569Yesterday 07:07 PM
165 Posts
What the heck , this deal is insane.

I remember buying a used Sundara years ago and feeling proud that I managed to snag one for under $250. Seeing them for less than $120 now is just is bonkers!

After owning this headphone for a long time and testing it across way too many chains, here are the biggest lessons I've learned:

1. Dongles do not do the Sundara justice
Yes, they'll make sound. No, they won't make Sundara (beautiful) sound.

Low‑current dongles like the Apple dongle, JCALLY, etc. choke this headphone, and one or more of these problems show up:

A) Congested, compressed presentation

B) Lean, hollow mids

C) Bright or even piercing upper‑mids

D) Weak bass impact

If you're upgrading from something cheaper and got nothing more than your computer or a dongle, you might still hear an improvement but you won't be hearing what the Sundara is actually capable of.

2. Synergy matters more on this headphone than people expect
I do not like the Sundara on clinical‑neutral or neutral‑bright DACs/amps.
This headphone already leans bright; pairing it with analytical, measurement‑chasing gear just adds more glare, more thinness, and more forwardness. Even with enough current, the chain can make the Sundara feel boring, sharp, or fatiguing.

3. What the Sundara loves is warmth, smoothness, and relaxation
A warm‑neutral or warm‑smooth chain transforms this headphone.

My #1 recommendation: R2R DACs or all in ones.
Even something simple like the FiiO K11 R2R makes the Sundara come alive. If you can get your hands on a Hifiman EF400 for cheap, friggen chef's kiss.

The iFi Zen stack is also fantastic. The Sundara's drivers scale extremely well with bass boosts, and iFi's XBass is basically a fun machine. It adds punch, weight, and even slam and more so when doubled. The Sundara becomes a legitimately fun headphone on a Zen stack.

4. Bottom line
This is a seriously good headphone, especially under $120.
Just give it the right chain and it will easily become a legitimately engaging, dynamic, and musical experience.

Anyway, seriously good headphone.
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Yesterday 07:39 PM
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W0rmyYesterday 07:39 PM
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Quote from balloonshark :
I paid $193.50 for a used pair in 2022. This is an amazing deal on a good set of headphones. You will need a dac/amp to power these.


If you have a really small head like me you may also need to use some padding to get them to fit.
what padding upgrades would you recommend? i also have a small head and will need to modify for proper fitting

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Yesterday 08:16 PM
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bggastrk101Yesterday 08:16 PM
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I paid twice this for mine and run through a JDS Labs amp and dac, primarily for gaming and listening to some live concerts on NUGS on my PC. They have far exceeded my expectations for the price and wouldn't hesitate to buy again, especially at this price.
Yesterday 08:20 PM
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Yee_BoiYesterday 08:20 PM
671 Posts
These lasted less then a year for me before earpad hinge broke off. Learned my lesson, stick with Sennheiser forever, they're built like tanks.
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Yesterday 08:23 PM
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anatvass313Yesterday 08:23 PM
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This product can't be shipped to your address.
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Yesterday 08:35 PM
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Joined Feb 2020
TehZommbieYesterday 08:35 PM
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Quote from Yee_Boi :
These lasted less then a year for me before earpad hinge broke off. Learned my lesson, stick with Sennheiser forever, they're built like tanks.
I've never heard that with Sundara. I had the HE-4x that had a hinge break after a few months with no proper replacements for a decent price.
Yesterday 09:09 PM
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Joined Nov 2016
FelineDisrespectYesterday 09:09 PM
204 Posts
Quote from MasterMike569 :
What the heck , this deal is insane.

I remember buying a used Sundara years ago and feeling proud that I managed to snag one for under $250. Seeing them for less than $120 now is just is bonkers!

After owning this headphone for a long time and testing it across way too many chains, here are the biggest lessons I've learned:

1. Dongles do not do the Sundara justice
Yes, they'll make sound. No, they won't make Sundara (beautiful) sound.

Low‑current dongles like the Apple dongle, JCALLY, etc. choke this headphone, and one or more of these problems show up:

A) Congested, compressed presentation

B) Lean, hollow mids

C) Bright or even piercing upper‑mids

D) Weak bass impact

If you're upgrading from something cheaper and got nothing more than your computer or a dongle, you might still hear an improvement but you won't be hearing what the Sundara is actually capable of.

2. Synergy matters more on this headphone than people expect
I do not like the Sundara on clinical‑neutral or neutral‑bright DACs/amps.
This headphone already leans bright; pairing it with analytical, measurement‑chasing gear just adds more glare, more thinness, and more forwardness. Even with enough current, the chain can make the Sundara feel boring, sharp, or fatiguing.

3. What the Sundara loves is warmth, smoothness, and relaxation
A warm‑neutral or warm‑smooth chain transforms this headphone.

My #1 recommendation: R2R DACs or all in ones.
Even something simple like the FiiO K11 R2R makes the Sundara come alive. If you can get your hands on a Hifiman EF400 for cheap, friggen chef's kiss.

The iFi Zen stack is also fantastic. The Sundara's drivers scale extremely well with bass boosts, and iFi's XBass is basically a fun machine. It adds punch, weight, and even slam and more so when doubled. The Sundara becomes a legitimately fun headphone on a Zen stack.

4. Bottom line
This is a seriously good headphone, especially under $120.
Just give it the right chain and it will easily become a legitimately engaging, dynamic, and musical experience.

Anyway, seriously good headphone.
I've used the Sennheiser/Massdrop HD 6XX for years with a qudelix 5k amp, would these headphones be an improvement from that?
Yesterday 09:16 PM
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balloonsharkYesterday 09:16 PM
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Quote from W0rmy :
what padding upgrades would you recommend? i also have a small head and will need to modify for proper fitting
I can't recommend the ones I bought. They are pads about the size of an ice cube with velcro straps. I planned on putting them in between the upper metal bar and the band that touches your head but the velcro straps weren't long enough. I had to put two of them below the band and they look weird.


You may be able to find suggestions on head-fi forums.


https://www.head-fi.org/threads/h...00.860413/


Reviews: https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/...41/reviews
Yesterday 09:38 PM
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W0rmyYesterday 09:38 PM
581 Posts
Quote from balloonshark :
I can't recommend the ones I bought. They are pads about the size of an ice cube with velcro straps. I planned on putting them in between the upper metal bar and the band that touches your head but the velcro straps weren't long enough. I had to put two of them below the band and they look weird.


You may be able to find suggestions on head-fi forums.


https://www.head-fi.org/threads/h...00.860413/


Reviews: https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/...41/reviews
Thanks for sharing! I forgot about head-fi. The thread suggested I try cushions called "Dekoni Audio Nuggets" to help them sit properly on my head and add comfort

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Yesterday 09:38 PM
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pandora9Yesterday 09:38 PM
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What Amp you guys recommend?

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