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  • The daughter of a scientist who frequently noted her lack of 'genius,' Angela Duckworth is now a celebrated researcher and professor. It was her early eye-opening stints in teaching, business consulting, and neuroscience that led to her hypothesis about what really drives success: not genius, but a unique combination of passion and long-term perseverance.
  • In Grit, she takes us into the field to visit cadets struggling through their first days at West Point, teachers working in some of the toughest schools, and young finalists in the National Spelling Bee. She also mines fascinating insights from history and shows what can be gleaned from modern experiments in peak performance. Finally, she shares what she's learned from interviewing dozens of high achievers - from JP Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon to New Yorker cartoon editor Bob Mankoff to Seattle Seahawks Coach Pete Carroll.

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  • Print Length: 368 pages
  • The daughter of a scientist who frequently noted her lack of 'genius,' Angela Duckworth is now a celebrated researcher and professor. It was her early eye-opening stints in teaching, business consulting, and neuroscience that led to her hypothesis about what really drives success: not genius, but a unique combination of passion and long-term perseverance.
  • In Grit, she takes us into the field to visit cadets struggling through their first days at West Point, teachers working in some of the toughest schools, and young finalists in the National Spelling Bee. She also mines fascinating insights from history and shows what can be gleaned from modern experiments in peak performance. Finally, she shares what she's learned from interviewing dozens of high achievers - from JP Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon to New Yorker cartoon editor Bob Mankoff to Seattle Seahawks Coach Pete Carroll.

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I was a university professor at the time this book was popular, and everyone was trying to work the concept of teaching/instilling grit it into curriculum and the subsequent backlash. It's been awhile, but I will try summarize. Basically they thought that Grit's main problem is that it oversells a thin finding. Duckworth's grit scale only weakly predicts outcomes, and a lot of what looks like "grit" overlaps with conscientiousness, a trait psychology already had. The samples she draws on (West Point cadets, spelling bee kids) are survivors who'd already cleared other filters, so it's hard to separate grit from privilege or talent. And the book's "just try harder" framing tends to wave away how much money, access, and circumstance actually shape who gets to succeed.

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While this book was a pop psy/ed sci darling about a decade ago, subsequent analysis (especially from the Harvard School of Education) has not been as kind. Somebody might still find it as a great motivational tale, but it does have its shortcomings.
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Quote from abstractedpudding :
While this book was a pop psy/ed sci, darling about a decade ago, subsequent analysis (especially from the Harvard School of Education) has not been as kind. Somebody might still find it as a great motivational tale, but it does have it short comings.
What's their issue with the book? I read it awhile ago, my take away was persistent hard work trumps innate talent when it comes to achieving your goals. Seemed logical to me.
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Is this more about hard work or sticktuitiveness?
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What's their issue with the book? I read it awhile ago, my take away was persist hard work trumps innate talent when it comes to achieving your goals. Seemed logical to me.
I was a university professor at the time this book was popular, and everyone was trying to work the concept of teaching/instilling grit it into curriculum and the subsequent backlash. It's been awhile, but I will try summarize. Basically they thought that Grit's main problem is that it oversells a thin finding. Duckworth's grit scale only weakly predicts outcomes, and a lot of what looks like "grit" overlaps with conscientiousness, a trait psychology already had. The samples she draws on (West Point cadets, spelling bee kids) are survivors who'd already cleared other filters, so it's hard to separate grit from privilege or talent. And the book's "just try harder" framing tends to wave away how much money, access, and circumstance actually shape who gets to succeed.
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Quote from Slickdeezee :
What's their issue with the book? I read it awhile ago, my take away was persist hard work trumps innate talent when it comes to achieving your goals. Seemed logical to me.
It is logical. The problem is that's the only salient point in the book. Take it away from your summary instead, and you've saved everyone $3.
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Quote from abstractedpudding :
I was a university professor at the time this book was popular, and everyone was trying to work the concept of teaching/instilling grit it into curriculum and the subsequent backlash. It's been awhile, but I will try summarize. Basically they thought that Grit's main problem is that it oversells a thin finding. Duckworth's grit scale only weakly predicts outcomes, and a lot of what looks like "grit" overlaps with conscientiousness, a trait psychology already had. The samples she draws on (West Point cadets, spelling bee kids) are survivors who'd already cleared other filters, so it's hard to separate grit from privilege or talent. And the book's "just try harder" framing tends to wave away how much money, access, and circumstance actually shape who gets to succeed.
I see. Seems like a chicken or egg debate. How do you even measure innate talent in the first place? I don't see the logic though in the argument against working hard. Give me a group of low income students with the same circumstances, separate them into two groups with one believing the deck is stacked against them and there's nothing they can do and the other believing that their hard work will determine their future success, I'm pretty confident which group will have higher chance of succeeding.
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It is logical. The problem is that's the only salient point in the book. Take it away from your summary instead, and you've saved everyone $3.
I think that's most self help books. Hundreds of filler pages for main points you could summarize in a page or two.
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Krillin6zToday 01:49 AM
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I've read it, and I enjoyed it. I think all books like this will have their shortcomings, but there's also plenty of good to take away from it. I'd say it's worth giving it a go, especially for $3. Read a book!
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Just like michael jackson, baby. Hard work and grit
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The "If Books Could Kill" podcast absolutely tore this book a new one. And with good reason!
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It's been a while since I've read this. Sure it's pop psychology but it was helpful. In short, talent and intelligence, etc are overrated.
Worth $3? Sure, why not?
But I would read "The Anxious Generation" (note: it's not only about Gen Z, it's about all of us), as well as "Thinking in Bets." I would describe these two as more important and more impactful
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Quote from Slickdeezee :
I see. Seems like a chicken or egg debate. How do you even measure innate talent in the first place? I don't see the logic though in the argument against working hard. Give me a group of low income students with the same circumstances, separate them into two groups with one believing the deck is stacked against them and there's nothing they can do and the other believing that their hard work will determine their future success, I'm pretty confident which group will have higher chance of succeeding.
There's a pretty straightforward problem with trying to layer a veneer of science on top of that. Obviously people that stop trying are not going to succeed, and some portion that do try will succeed. The book tries to suggest there is some innate quality in the latter group, but you just end up using success to define itself.

You frame this with "low income students" which is where this thinking becomes extremely toxic. You can objectively say that children of lower-income families perform worse academically than those of higher-income families, and that is straightforwardly because those parents buy access to better schools. Highlighting some lower-income kids who succeed anyway is a tacit implication that those who don't are responsible for their own failures, rather than structural inequity.

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